deborah plant. right, that was amazing. because at first, we had dr. natalie roberts. so the second year, we have dr. deborah plant. so i'm into the authors who have written books on the survivors of africatown. the survivors of the clotilda. so that book came out in 2017, i believe. great book. 80 years it was being published because they didn't want to publish it because of the cudjoe lewis dialect. she added in, and the book was forwarded. we were excited to have dr. deborah plant. >> when they put him in the barracoon and took him across the passage, he lost his motherland. and after 67 years in alabama, he lost his mother tongue. what i like to remind people when they're reading "barracoon" and say, it's in his dialect. and that was one of the reasons it wasn't public in 1931. the publisher said, you know, we want your story, but we want you to write it in language rather than dialect. that means a lot of things, and we don't have that kind of time. suffice it to say, you know, first of all, they say we want it in language, they're talking about what they call standard english. that's really the language of th