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joining me now democratic congresswoman deborah ross of my home state of north carolina, also a member of the judiciary committee and vice chair of the sub commit tee on the constitution, civil rights and civil liberties. thank you for your time given that you have a busy week ahead. are you confident that democrats will be successful to get through the legislation? speaker pelosi signaled a delay could be in the cards. what does it look like from your vantage point? >> i'm confident that we'll get the job done for the american people. all of these bills basically improve the lives of every day americans. we all know that we have the same goal in mind and i think we'll get it done. >> are you confident that democrats will be successful in getting through this? what is the latest you hear on negotiations over that $3.5 trillion reconciliation deal? what are you willing to accept on the plan to get mod rat democrats like senator manchin to get on board? >> that's a good question about the process and everything on capitol hill has to be negotiated and the speaker made that very clear but

deborah's claims were laughable. the alleged murder plots are think our force. >> ross defense attorney agreed.poke holes in debra's testimony, starting with her story of those spots. >> were you scared? >> yes. >> did you call it? place >> yes or no? >> no. >> gottlieb says deborah stories didn't add up either. >> time and time again, when she is saying that she felt bullied by rod, she was afraid of him. the only thing she ever says in her emails is i love you, dear i love you, over and over again. >> despite her denials, gottlieb said deborah had been crossed when the relationship ended. her testimony, he said, was nothing more than words of a woman scorned. >> so it is fair to say, yes or no? you were jealous? >> no, i was mad at him. i was mad at him for a lot of reasons. >> is it fair to say that you have a history and have admitted to be a habitual liar? >> that is disgusting and false. that is not true. >> the defense conceded rod wasn't always stand up guy. he said dad didn't make him a murderer. >> you may despise him, you may not even be able to look at him. you may want to convict h