and them i'm making rule of -úthe bone with debra gganik who's made.last year's big film was winter's -- >> smith: oh, fantastic, oscar-nominated and much beloved >> banks: yeah, wonderful film, yeah. so i, i but i. >> smith: well, you're, you're working witt great people. -ú>> banks: yeah and i.but that's.that's the whole ey. >> smith: we have about five or six minutes left. i wanna ask you to tell me how you got to be this person. what, what, what was it at a young age that made you think you wanted to do.do this as opposee to ann number of other things you might have done? >> banks: mm, mm. well, i never had one of those aha moments, i think myself as a writer.. >> smith: yeah.& >> banks: .of, of seriouu literary depressing fiction. [laughter] >> banks: that, that never occurred to me. >> smith: i guess i'm -- i'm comforted to know that. [laughter] >> banks: [laughs] that's good. no, no, originally i, i wanted to be a visual aatist. it was he only observable talent i had... >> smith: you were interested in painting, right? >> banks: yeah. >> smith: yeah. >> banks: and, and it's, it