back with richard quest, debra hersman, and david soucie. is suggesting foul play. there's no indication of that. all the bags, but all the bags that were in the cargo area, they would have been rescreened going through barcelona. no matter where other passengers went. >> it's more complex than that. it's depends where they're going to, the point of origin, the destination is. any bags that were going to end up in the united states or elsewhere are screened multiple times. so, you know, you're talking, remember, germanwings is point to point. it has a certain amount of spoken connectivity. the core principle of german wings set up by lufthansa is that it's not a hub operation. it takes people from one city to the other. that's the idea of germanwings. >> where else do they normally fly? >> it had to identify the problem. lufthansa is too expensive. costs are too high. they introduce germanwings and said, germanwings flies from manchester to dusseldorf. barcelona. but not to the hubs. the hubs will still be for lufthansa, the main airline. it

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. >> stay with us as i bring in debra hersman now head of the national safety council. she's live on the phone. let's begin -- and thank you for being with us -- with what the circumstances suggest to you. in other words, no distress call that we're aware of. what was described as an orderly descent, albeit a straight one. what does it suggest to you? >> well, i can tell you one of the things that's going to be critically important is that black box that they've now located. you're going to get a sense of if the data is there and if it's intact you're going to get a sense of not just what the aircraft was doing and how that descent was being managed, but you'll get a conversation of what the conversation is going and what the cockpit were like. if they had good recordings that you should probably expect at least a two-hour recording on that cbr, and if it's good quality, you're going to know exactly what was going on. very interesting in this situation there was no communication with air traffic control. >> does that suggest to you some sort of catastrophic failure of t

on skype debra hersman, president and ceo of the national safety council, the former chair of the national transportation safety board, and bob hagel, who has covered aviation for nbc news for 25 years. thank you all for being here. bob, let me go to you first. you have reported on a lot of airline disasters. what similar are there to other crashes in this? >> immediately i think of flights where there's been some problem at full altitude like this one. that is so unusual, as you said but air france just a few years ago over the atlantic when it was a failure of the navigation equipment. twa 800 over long island. that was at 10,000 feet so pretty well up there when the center fuel tank exploded. there was a decompression of the private jet carrying the golfer payne stewart a number ofiers where everybody passed out and the plane flew over hat of the understand before it but in this case there's no evidence of anything like that but we're pretty early into it. i think what is important here is getting the recorders. they've got one and probably will find the other one, and then we should ha

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