>> yes, debray was just really something.i have to say i have 60 webpages on the first draft of the book. yeah, just didn't fit. but debray runs for mayor and he gives a whole big crowd. he was running against tammany because you voted amount. he said he thought all this money. i'm going to tell you how to get all this money. it was like a nap, i'm not going to tell you. i mean, he just had fun. >> yet a wonderful slogan for that campaign, which was you can trust a thief, but you can't trust a lawyer. >> he also was famous for c., here, say nothing, pay nothing. >> yet, his advice was to say nothing and he told the committee of one point, touched appertaining to that matter, i just remember. he described himself as undoubtedly the most specific policeman in the history of new york city. i stand there for the fresh air from the weakest of the highest, no matter who comes along, talk to them all. >> when he gets appointed police chief, the first thing he announces is i intend to enforce all the laws, just like a roosevelt state