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. >>> it is a decisio many families have faced when a loved one battles cancer whether to go traditional treatment or try alternative natural therapies. we learned that steven jobs wrestled with the question and regretted the choice he made. >> he had access to the best medical treatment, but steve jobs diagnosed with deadly pancreatic cancer retirement refused surgery saying it was too invasive. he tried alternative therapies and later said he regretted that decision. it's one of startling revelations in the steve jobs biography. walter isaac son who conducted 40 interviews some of them taped right before his death, the subject was off-limits. in his early days, he was revealed he was bullied in school and he stopped going to church at age 13 after he saw a photo of a starving child on the cover of life magazine, he ex pair. with various diets. he was on a vegetarian diet when he named his company apple. and he became so distinctly anticipate, he. he was still inspired by this late design, case of the first apple computers out of molded plastic instead of metal. his cousin is also inter

so right decisio as to whether they should hear this case or not. i have full confidence in our united states supreme court. >> wouldn't yo be shocked? i know i would be shocked -- let me put it that way. i would be shocked if the court didn't follow it's usual 5-4 right majority over left minority and declared the law unconstitutional. i think it would be almost irresponsible not to handicap it that way unless you see something different. >> again as i told new the 11th circuit we had a judge appointed by president clinton who ruled in our favor. we firmly believe this is unconstitutional. you know geraldo, 5-4 is a win for the people of america. i don't want to guess on numbers. i do feel confident that this is unprecedented. congress wasn't done anything like this in over two years. i feel confident we will prevail in the supreme court. >> tenth amendment over the commerce clause. >> that's right. if the federal government can force us to purchase a product simply by being alive no activity involved simply by being born then they can force us to

during his tenure he's written over 1400 decisio. he's filed more dissents a separate opinions than any of his colleagues. he considers himself a judicial conservative he shaped the court's liberal jurors presence. he retiredfter servi for 35 years. at 91 he continues to follow. he has many interests including tennis and golf. he writes about his distinguished career, it is called five chiefs, a supreme court mem warrior. justice stevens joins me now in his chamber. >> it's nice to see you. >> charlie: te me how you think the court has changed since you first took note of it as a young lawyer. as a young clerk. >> well of course, as i say early in the book, every time there's a new number in the court, the court changes. so the court has gone through however many appointments that have been made since that te and every one has been a significant change. so i couldn't really sum up the whole story in a very short answer. >> charlie: but it has been becoming more conservative. >> well, if you use the term conservative as i suppose appr

and that's why the president made the decisio he made today. it's not because of something the iraqis did or did not do. >> warner: are u.s. military commanders on board with this? >> absolutely. i mean, we've been working-- actual low, i was just in baghdad over the weekend. we, obviously, are working very closely with our commander on the ground, with our ambassador, and i think they feel very good about something that we should all, frankly, feel quite good about-- namely, the partnering, the training, and the operations that our troops have carried out jointly with iraqi security forces over the course of these last several years. that effort has knotten the iraqis into a position where they can take over for themselves themselves. every assessment we've done has said on the threats against which they need to be most ready soonest, they are ready to go. the fact is they've been carrying out internal security operations now over the course of a couple of years and doing it quite well. >> warner: now, will u.s. special forces remain for count

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