sounds like the second sentence of the declaration of independence, taken from george mason. tell us how madison wanted to put at the top of the constitution, not at the end at framers understood as the bill of rights. >> when people thought about bills of rights at the time of the founding they were looking at state bills of rights, not all states had a bill of rights but some did and the ones that did follow the model set in virginia by george mason, the underrated person we were talking about earlier and what do these bills of rights look like? first, they all came at the beginning of the state constitution. second, they all began with a series of statements that sound a lot like the beginning of the declaration of independence, the grand rhetorical statements about natural law and popular sovereignty and so on which were supposed to be the preface for these specific legal rights that came later. madison tried to propose something similar in first congress because there were a lot of complaints from the anti-federalist and those who were critical of the constitution that th

we think this might have had some influence on jeffersons writing of the independent -- writing of the declaration of independence. opened the door for whom theand to virginia declaration of rights applied. in the 18th century it would not have applied to me. later, we continue to have this conversation, it applies to all of us. i think that is very special and very important and why we still talk about george mason the way we do today. announcer: next, on the presidency, the deputy and major events including the vietnam war and the watergate scandal. the nixon foundation hosted this the richard nixon presidential library in yorba linda, california. it is just under one hour. >> ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the nixon presidential 150thy and museum on this birthday of president nixon's birth. this that theke family comes together and you begin to see many people that have relationships with one another. we are wng

that includes the declaration of independence in the constitution of the united states and other records of the senate that had not been released. treaties and washington's commission, washington's resignation document. obviously, most importantly, the declaration of independence. he took these documents, and he concluded that because the british believed a foundry close by would be too handy in providing munitions, he had the documents taken to leesburg, virginia where they could be stored in a secure place. he went to bed exhausted. that night, all the citizens of washington saw the city in flames. he recalled in exchange he had when taking the documents out of the state department into safekeeping. he ran into the secretary of war at the time who saw what he was doing and asked him why he was doing it. he felt he was being extremely alarmist. that washington was not going to be invaded by the british. he said that he felt it was a point of prudence to do it, and he carried on. if he had not secured those documents, today you would not be able to go to the national archive and see the

writing table in the museum that reflects and symbolizes his role in creating the declaration of independence. there are three things that jefferson wanted to be remembered for. second was to be an author of the declaration of independence. third was to be an author of the freedom of religion clause in the virginia state constitution. to be remembered as the third president of the united states, which i think was significant. it's those acts he wanted to have inscribed on his tombstone at the monticello. this document further reinforces the ideas and thinking behind his commitment to religious thought. i'm going to ask. rubinstein to elaborate on what would have been the history of jefferson's bible. give you an to introduction as to what is the jefferson bible, which is going to be brief because a lot has been written about it and a lot more will be written about it. jefferson and you don't really think of as an individual who spends a lot of time thinking about religion or moral beliefs. this is a key part of his personality and his interest. he becomes engaged in this process through a dep

they established ar constitution that enabled everyone, everyone as they stated in our declaration of independence, everyone, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. and it is a beautiful thing. our country has become a more diverse country over time. pluribus unum. we are a nation of immigrants and invigorated with hopes, dreams, courage to make the future better for their families. that's what america is about and what it is based on that every generation would take responsibility. these new comers have made america more american. and americans are a great constitution of the united states, a great constitution which we take an oath to support. and what else? america is this beautiful land that god has given us to be stewards of. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady will suspend. please take all conversations off the floor. the gentlelady, please continue. ms. pelosi: and it's important the ow that our country is district of columbia and our territories and our territories. and in respect for that, i'm pleased in this bill we were successful in the negotiations to get more fu

our founders invoked our creator four times in the declaration of independence. our currency declares in god we trust. [applause] and we place our hands on our hearts as we recite the pledge of allegiance and proclaim we are one nation under god. [applause] our rights are not given to us by man. our rights come from our creator. [applause] no matter what. no earthly force can take those rights away. [applause] that is why the words praise be to god are etched atop the washington monument and those same words are etched into the hearts of our people. so today we praise god for how truly blessed we are to be american. [applause] across our land we see the splendor of god's creation. throughout our history we see the story of god's providence. and in every city and town we see the lord's grace all around us through a million acts of kindness, courage and generosity. we love god. we see the lord's grace in the service members who risk their lives for our freedom. we see it in the teachers who work tirelessly for their students and the police who sacrifice for our comm

the british landed an army on staten island shortly after the declaration of independence. there were a series of battles defeats for general washington, , beginning with the battle of long island, followed by harlem heights, white plains, the capture in new york as well, and the defeats at fort washington and fort lee. really, fort lee was an abandoning of the fort and important supplies. and that began in late the november, retreat through new jersey. washington fell back through new jersey. because of the defeats, morale was sinking fast. he was counting on the new jersey militia as well as the pennsylvania militia to come forward and strengthen his army. they were not turning out in any significant numbers. he had to continue retreating through new jersey. when he is halfway across the state, he orders the gathering of the boats along the delaware river. he sends men forward to the river to start confiscating all the boats. for 70 miles north of philadelphia, everything that floats is being gathered by the army so the british will not have any boats left across the -- le

five million dollars and the fourth wealthiest president is one of the key authors of the declaration of independence and the third president of the united states thomas jefferson who made most of his money through inheritance from his father in which he gained the estate of monticello his net worth is estimated to have been two hundred twelve million dollars that's your presidential fun fact for today hope you did well. professor montana welcome to the show to talk about presidents thank you so much for being here it's going to be a part so when we talk about.

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study the constitution, the declaration of independence. talk to our segregated classes about equality and the rights of man. but, what could we say that would bring children together? so, now we are integrated. 11 st. louis high schools, no problems. our school, one incident. at least, that is what the papers are calling it. incident that would be the last or the first. the kids won't tell you, or can't. only one person really knows, and he is not talking. maybe he will listen. how are you, vincent? vincent? how are you? >♪ narrator: one angry boy can cause a lot of trouble. >> good morning. announcer: not even teachers know all the answers. and, special meetings aren't much help. and at least in st. louis, we did not walk into the segregation with our eyes closed. people in this town knew it was coming. our textbook committees met together and worked together. had been trained in similar teachers colleges taught similar courses. when they came together, they met as equals. teachers in st. louis, met in human relations withhops and come me

you know him from "pawn stars" rich harrison will address cpac with a copy of the declaration of independence in one hand. this is fox news at night on a very foggy friday of the very foggy friday of the nation liberty mutual stood with me when i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate. i just snapped a photo and got an estimate in 24 hours. my insurance company definitely doesn't have that... you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance. fast like stop staring atcaps help youthe clock fast,st, like stop worrying about your boss fast, like wow, you're already asleep fast. when life keeps you up... zzzquil helps you fall asleep in as little as 20 minutes. >>in a week that's largely focused on students, a new survey finds this, many college students think they are ready for the workforce but most employers disagree, especially when it comes to their professionalism and work ethic. survey found similar results when they asked about communication skills. joining me now from the television show "pawn stars" rick harrison. thanks for stopping in. wha

so it might be something that he used when he was writing the declaration of independence. we don't know. here we are with james madison, our fourth president, and also one of our founding fathers. and what we have borrowed for this is a document called "the worship document" of 1812 from the montpelier foundation. and this document is interesting because it's a document which is for a ship, and the ship is an american cargo ship assigned by president james madison and also signed by secretary of war james monroe. who becomes the next president. but this document is to show that the ship is a neutral ship. at the time, the french and the british are taking american ships and american sailors and impressing them into their navies to fight for them or to sail for them or claiming they're defectors from the british navy. this document was designed to claim that the ship was neutral and not let that happen. later on at the beginning of the war of 1812, the ship was actually captured by the british. then moving on to james monroe, what we have for james monroe on loan from the ja

five million dollars and the fourth wealthiest president is one of the key authors of the declaration of independence and the third president of the united states thomas jefferson who made most of his money through an heritage from his father in which he gave me a state of monticello his net worth is estimated to have been two hundred twelve million dollars that's your presidential fun fact for today hope you did well. professor montana welcome to the show to talk about presidents thank you so much for being here so when we talk about how much impact a president can have on the economy. they stopped work with congress so what is their power we see the president has just passed tax reform but how much power do they really have by themselves i think is story could the consensus among historians is that presidents don't have all that much power when it comes to the short term specially they have to act at the size that they have a vision of what they want to do with the economy and where they're going to actually take it but i guess the best indication as to see where presidents take the economy is seen

the storm is marking the one hundredth anniversary of its declaration of independence from russia a parade is taking place today talents freedom square attended by the nation's president sonia was under soviet occupation from world war two until ninety one to one then joined the european union and nato in two thousand and four. judges at the berlin film festival are still deliberating but at a gala ceremony later today they will have decided who gets the gold and the silver bear awards for this year's best films one thousand pictures are in the running and the stakes are high last year's winner has been nominated for a best foreign language film oscar is a look at some of the movies that have made a splash this year. the stars on the red carpet have been at the heart of the berlin ali for ten days. but now all eyes are on these six experts the international jewry around president tom tech for they only have a few hours left now to decide who gets the bears. this film from the philippines has the nod from many critics season of the devil is a tale of torture and of the marcos dictatorship i

estonia is marking the one hundredth anniversary of its declaration of independence from russia a parade taking place today in talons freedom square attended by the nation's president and tony it was under soviet occupation from world war two until one thousand nine hundred one it joined the european union and nato in two thousand and four. well u.s. president is turning up the heat on north korea with a new round of economic sanctions that he is calling the toughest yes but if they don't work he says the u.s. will move on to phase two which he ominously describes as quote very unfortunate for the world's. pressure. as the u.s. imposes its largest range of sanctions yeah but they are targeting shipping companies accused of illegal treating with north korea it's an attempt to force the regime to give up its nuclear and missile programs the u.s. president says he's exploring all options we'll have to see of the sanctions don't work we'll have to go face to face too may be a very rough thing maybe very very unfortunate for the world that really is a rogue nation if we can make a deal it'll

enlightenment in europe they brought it to america they caught a five there ideas of freedom in the declaration of independence of the constitution of united states and once they put that in motion it was inevitably going to go forward the inertia of the revolution once sparked was carried forward irreversibly there approximately twenty two thousand red coats or english soldiers we we went on a killing spree. to secure our freedom the british empire was the biggest empire the strongest. higher than ever existed ever you know came in to be our age and really through the battle in our favor were the french because the french hated the british have hated the british for hundreds of years and. when the british were defeated we try to be more americans the. winners of two world wars undefeated in the world wars. are ok so you know at home trying to figure that one out. i live in the united kingdom i live in great britain the whole system of monarchy is an oppressive. i'm glad we did it. but. you can still be the crown prince of the pilgrimage right yeah. well that's very different isn't it because it wasn't a hered

to pay the taxes anymore it's unfair taxation it's interesting only a third of americans wanted to declare their independence from england a third did not hunt and a third were ambivalent you know. they didn't care one way or another so only it shows that a small percentage of the population if motivated can stage a successful revolution looking back i think we think that everyone was gung ho on this revolution but really it was among the minority who and negatively created what what came out of all that. came out of it was the gumption and the personalities like paul revere and benjamin franklin and thomas jefferson these are incredibly successful intelligent visionary renaissance man who studied the rights of man from the enlightenment in europe they brought it to america they caught a five there ideas of freedom in the declaration of independence of the constitution of united states and once they put that in motion it was inevitably going to go forward the inertia of the revolution once sparked was carried forward irreversibly there approximately twenty two thousand red coats or english soldiers we we wen

the ideas in that book from john locke are what go into the declaration of independence. so george washington's copy is from 1775, and inside of both front covers of of it is his personal book plate and then on the title page of each one, he signed his name into it. which is apparently not common for him to have both of his book plate and his signature. but what also makes these books unique is these were owned by herbert hoover. herbert hoover purchased these at the bookstore in new york city about, i'm not exactly sure what year. we haven't been able to figure that out, but about two blocks from where he lived in the waldorf towers is where ta bookstore was located. but so the books were part of his washington's private library. they were sold by his family in the later 1800s for $20. and herbert hoover spent about $2700 to buy these books. and now, who knows what they're worth. here we are at john adams. john adams is our second president. and one of our founding fathers and what we have for john adams is we have the seal which he used to authenticate his signature on t

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i honor thomas jefferson for the language he gave us, i honor him for the declaration of independence. i don't honor him for his life as a slave owner. we have to learn to balance that. one of the great problems for any country is to come to the conclusion that most of our heroes are not 100% heroic. they are people and human. when we make people heroes, it is important to hold them to a higher standard. i wrote a lot about thomas jefferson. why arey critics said, you criticizing thomas jefferson for slavery? he was just like any other man of his time. my answer is, we don't put just anybody on the nickel. we don't just put anybody on the two dollar bill. namen't just put anybody's on one building of the library of congress. we put people who were better than the men of their times. two more questions. slaves, where did he rank among the top slaveholders in virginia? dr. finkelman: no idea. he had a lot of money. he would have been on the forbes richest 1000 men in virginia. he is rich. >> thank you, professor. such an enlightening lecture. you said that john marshall wasn't corrupt,

americans are most familiar with it with the founders and frames of the declaration of independence and constitution. the design of the american democracy came when a bunch of educated people exchanged ideas, reasoned it out, say rather than just living with the kind of monarchy we always have lived under, if we were to design a government from first principles rationally, what would it look like? what could we actually defend in arguments? and also looking around at what works, what has led to bloodshed, what has led to peace. let's adopt the things that work. that rational approach to reasoning things out is what we call the enlightenment. >> so we seem to be living in -- let's just take the united states of america -- in a place where reason is on the back foot. in fact, reason is something to be suspicious of. empirical facts are being denied. truth is being ob fufuscated. it's like tribalism. how does the enlightenment fit into this era right now? >> the reason is that everyone always falls back on it at some point. as soon as you try to say that you're right about anything, you're

[laughter] >> i should say, 1% said "texting the declaration of independence."ing it out there. just...i like to give all the information. >> and i have a feeling that was my one jerk friend that i brought with me. just so you know. >> there's always one. >> there's always one. this is a respectable-looking audience, i will give you that. [laughter] except for that guy. 82%'s pretty definitive, and to be honest, i kind of thought that was the one that jumped out at me the most, so i'm--i'm gonna say d, final answer. >> that's $20,000! >> yay! >> come on! [cheers and applause] $20,000, man! >> awesome. >> this is good. >> this is really good. >> we're gonna see if we can get to that $50,000 threshold next. [cheers and applause] ♪ [dramatic music] ♪ >> welcome back. special day here at "millionaire." rob riggle is in the house, comedian and actor. so shockingly enough, $20,000 now in the bank. >> i'm so happy about that, yeah. >> come on. remind everybody what two charities--we're gonna split this up. what two charities? >> i'm splitting between the semper fi fund

several of the colonies had declared independence in 1776 massachusetts, new hampshire and new jersey, pennsylvania vermont and virginia have already adopted individual gun rights measures into their state constitutions. they declared themselves independent as state's. there wasn't even any discussion or argument about this being one of the amendments in the constitution. they were used as slave patrols forming the basis of the culture after enslaving people was made illegal. that is the inseparable over half of the colonial reality that is implicit in the second amendment. the first to be shipped or the eventual 13 colonies that became the united states took place in 1619. when they arrived in virginia most of the labor being used in the first decade was made up of british and other food in danger tendangerthemselves for varyings of time. but african slavery was different. some historians think they were considered servants but the strong probability is even if they were listed as servants, the more familiar category, they were viewed as being different or treated differently and in

has worked with thomas jefferson on the declaration of independence and the implications of the creator and nature and god. or his solitary insistence on prayer at the convention. when you add franklin's propensity for joking about serious matters, he becomes more difficult to understand. regarding his chameleonlike religion, john adams once remarked that "the catholics thought him almost a catholic". the church of england almost claimed him as one of them. the presbytery of thought of him as half presbyterian and their friends believed him a what quaker which means a quaker that is not so well behaved. the key to understanding franklin's ambivalent faith is that contrast between the skepticism of his adult life and the indelible imprint of his childhood puritanism. the intense piety and faith of his parents acted as a tether, restraining franklin skepticism. as a teenager, he abandoned his parents certain beliefs. that same traditional faith kept him from getting too far away. he would stretches moral and doctrinal tether to the breaking point. by the end of the youth will sojourn, he

ends up in a newspaper in philadelphia around the time thomas jefferson is drafting the declaration of independence. we don't know, but we think it is possible this might have had some influence on thomas jefferson's writing of the declaration. mason gets invited to philadelphia for the constitutional convention. it's the furthest he has been from home. he is not happy about it. he is concerned about leaving the kids that are still at home with his second wife. he has remarried after the death of his first wife. not too excited about it. gets to philadelphia, ends up being one of the top five speakers of the constitutional convention. he is very adamant about many things. , late august,mber he stands up at the constitutional convention and document doess not have a declaration of rights. it goes to a vote and it is unanimously down voted. george mason at that time does see a bill of rights added to the constitution. he is pretty unhappy about that. there are some reasons why they didn't do it at the time. the 55 men at the constitutional convention had been there for three months. they didn't have

den kennedy the declaration of independence was signed here.tley the 2008 phillies parade i think that kelce's speech is better. here's why they actually have similarities they both thanked their fans, their teammates and dropped an f bomb on air but that is where utley stops. he only speaks for about minute. kelce he delivered an empassio empassioned zillow kyw-3. he gave specific examples every player on this team about doug pederson how howie roseman he tied it altogether with what beautiful theme of under dogs and ended with a chant. all be not safe for work chant but he got the crowd involved. i heard it as i was walking back from the art museum over to city hall this afternoon. case jason kelce here's to you. you truly gave the best speech in philadelphia sports history. iain. >> kristen, thank. >>> you geoff get so hungry jason kelce if he doesn't miss breakfast he gets hangry. it happens it's now an official word in the oxford english dictionary. hangry. hungry and angry. the word combines hungry and angry. it's just one of 1100 news wo

. >> declaration of independence, step aside. >> yeah, we're going to move all that aside. we're world champs, baby. >> reporter: he says it's just amazing. he's so happy to have been a starter, a contributor from start to finish, to just finish it through. >> and he's absolutely, right, by the way. people who have been in the philadelphia for a long time, have watched all the other teams, parades. this has been said to me over and over again the day the eagles win the super bowl it will pale in comparison, the other sports teams, it will pale in comparson -- >> right, and when i saw governor randall at the hotel, he said if they win, we will have a sports parade that has never been seen before in this country. looking forward to that. >> guys, back to you. >> i believe it. as vai mentioned you and i are local here. myself personally 44 years waiting for that parade. >> i'm not going to reveal how many years, but, yes. and hey, i'm from a football family. to the victors goes the spoils. the eagles, yeah we're going to get the vince lombardi trophy np philadelphia. >> nfl fa

it was after a reading of the declaration of independence. order to show the important contribution that daniel lineman had made to cementing the french-american alliance and facilitating the communication between the two. this is one of our prized possessions. it is from the most mundane to the most elegant. extraordinary relationships that made the american revolution. she was at the most famous woman might housekeeper in the united states. more importantly, she was the most famous lighthouse keeper in the united states. she was a little woman. she was barely five foot two inches. she weighed 100 and three pounds. her father, hosea lewis was a revenue cutter captain. he had declining health so he started to tend the what -- of the government that they should build a house there for his family. i was 12 years old when that happens. they moved to the whole family from downtown newport to line rock and that is where she lived her entire life until she died. she died in the lighthouse, just as her father did. i don't was 12 years old in 1854 wh

though its constitution was perhaps the most famous product of the enlightenment, and the declaration of independencerson, adams, were men of the enlightenment — in many ways the country itself has been divided. it's almost been two countries. there is an enlightenment country, there is also a more traditional culture of honour, more heavily represented in the south than the west, in which the ethic is that, instead you having disinterested institutions that meet outjustice and secure social welfare, it is up to the individual defending himself and his family by the justifiable use of violence if necessary and a lot of american politics has always struggled between the culture of honour and the culture of the enlightenment. and so it is a peculiar example of a western democracy. he did not like my phrase, "the eternal march of progress" and i can see why but it does strike me that there is a tendency toward i could say triumphalism or hubris in your theory in that you know what you believe to be the most important values to humanity today, they are those born out of the enlightenment, and you seem to

declaration of independence, sounds very much like the second sentence of the declaration, we hold these truths to be self-evident, unalienable rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. whenever the government becomes destructive of these rights it's the duty of the people to abolish it. sometry cal, such synchronicity, we began the tour of this is the documents by recognizing that wilson's to abolish government is an unalienable right that comes from god or nature and not government. here we see the very first amendment madison proposed would have declared the right of amendment to be unalienable. it didn't pass but that right was embodied in the constitution in article 5. so go online, check out interactive constitution, check out constitution center/treasures for evolving texts of the five rarest drafts of the constitution. most of all come to the national constitution center, it's such an inspiring and beautiful place. a place for citizens of all perspectives to come and unite around this amazing document of human freedom that unites us, the u.s. constitution, how exciting.

our founders invoked our creator four times in the declaration of independence. our currency declares in god we trust. [applause] president trump: and we place our hands on our hearts as we recite the pledge of allegiance and proclaim we are one nation under god. [applause] president trump: our rights are not given to us by man. our rights come from our creator. [applause] >> on february 8, 2018, at 11:17 p.m., agreed to without amendment resolution 102. speaker, the, the rules of the u.s. house of representatives, the following message. senate agrees to, without an amendment, resolution 104. that the senate passed with an 1892.ent, hr 1301 and hr

it was a declaration of independence of such breathtaking scope as to rival that of her father's and hers to was successful. this was her likely arrival point. jesse brown's famous hotel on pennsylvania avenue. it boasted the largest assembly room in the city of fine restaurants and it was the tusseling depot stop. madison reported that harriet quote married a white man in good standing in washington city and raised a family of children. she likely lived until at least 1863 for in 1873 when madison was telling the family story he said he had not heard him her in about 10 years that during all of those years he said he was not aware that her identity as harriet hemings of monticello had ever been discovered. nor to my knowledge had anyone really gone booking so i decided to take the plunge. it became clear to me immediately that she dropped the hemings name but knowing as annette gordon-reed said that hemings had a positive mania for naming children after relatives. i decided to look at the first records. to see if i could find the mother of sons who bore the name beverly madison whic

five million dollars and the fourth wealthiest president is one of the key authors of the declaration of independence and the third president of the united states thomas jefferson who made most of his money through inheritance from his father in which he gained the estate of monticello his net worth is estimated to have been two hundred twelve million dollars that's your presidential fun fact for today hope you did well. professor montana welcome to the show to talk about presidents thank you so much for being here so when we talk about how much impact a president can have on the economy. they stopped work with congress so what is their power we see the president has just passed tax reform but how much power do they really have by themselves i think is story they could the consensus among historians is that presidents don't have all that much power when it comes to the short term specially they have to act the size that they have a vision of what they want to do with the economy and where they're going to actually take it but i guess the best indications to see where president's take the economy is s

spain anyway that the european union made it clear that it would not recognize a unilateral declaration of independence by catalonia or spain didn't recognize it wouldn't recognize it in scotland it's different because of the referendum was agreed with the united kingdom government so had gotten voted to become independent there would be no reason for any other member state to prevent it becoming a full member of the european union indeed no member state actually did say they would retire or not even spain the further complication of course is that scotland voted by a large majority to remain in the european union of the time of the directive referendum and so is the scots who want to stay in the european union and the english who want to pull out and that is put the whole question of independence back on the agenda and created the possibility of a european boundary running between england and scotland what about the case of know the night in michael that's even more complicated because northern ireland voted to remain in the european union as well although there was a division in the nationalist commu