>> what about the decriminalization of marijuana? where do you think that comes in to play in especially because the argument is, it impacts young people, like brianna, more than other young people. >> this is a very tough discussion and certainly as a mayor, i've participated on a national level whether or not we should decriminalize it or not and whether or not it should be made legal. first of all, i think it only should be made legal for medical purposes. but in terms of decriminalization, i think that's -- each locality should have the opportunity to weigh in and make that choice. simply because right now there is a disparity in terms of -- particularly young african-american males and hispanic males that are being charged with possession for small amounts, and then they're being convicted and then it goes on to their record and hurts them in terms of their employment. so the fact now is that if we decriminalize it, you can levy a fine and you get charged for the event, not it doesn't go on your record permanently. >> brianna, i

decriminalizing possession of marijuana. getting caught with less than 1 ounce of marijuana now in washington is only a $25 fine. and that's less than a parking ticket. i can attest to the parking ticket part of that. eleanor holmes norton is washington the congressional delegate. we know about the washington parking tickets. there's a ticket that gets written for marijuana possession? what is the thrust behind decriminalizing at least possession? >> well, actually, d.c. is pretty late. 18 states decriminalized before the district did. and d.c. was thrust into it by something a little different. two studies by very reputable organizations found that in this very progressive ton, even though blacks and whites in our city as in the rest of the country use marijuana at the same rates, nu90% of the arrest were african-americans. you take a black kid who has a, quote, drug arrest, he's read out of the workforce for the refts of his life. they immediately acted on this. all over the united states for reasons having to do with chan

the city has already decrimin decriminalized the drug and now it could be legal and you will have the final say. plus, hey, he is one of the biggest names in music you have likely never heard of. now friends are trying to help him get a second chance at a final gig. check this one out. knowing your price is one of the best biggest giveaways in national history. if you miss it, it will cost you a pretty penny. we begin with the fraud scheme that is hitting local businesses that involves stolen prepaid pay pal debit cards. they actually go through when swiped, but the store gets hit with the bill by the time victims realize the cards are fake. bad guys are long gone. news 4's derek ward spoke to one business owner that was scammed out of thousands of dollars. >> romeo mortgage is covered with paperwork instead of the usual orders for fried fish or chicken. they are $18,000 in expenses he may have to eat after falling victim to scammers. they used prepaid mastercard debit cards. they don't have names on them and they have been paid from the summer jobs with the card. >> they told me thes

and i'm also for the decriminalization. i think what the council did in that area was very important. i thought there was too much disparity, and -- and who was getting arrested and who was going to jail related to that. so i was very much in favor of that. and would have voted for it had i been on the council. the recreational use i'm very concerned about. i think we have so many people already in our town that are either alcohol addicted or other kind of drugs addicted, and i don't want to put a stamp of approval on continuing that trend. >> so legalization no. but decriminalization, yes? >> yes. >> okay. let's move on to another one, 37 mile street car system. we've seen it taken off in "h" street area that corridor. where do you come down on that? >> well, i think streetcars are nice because i think they kind of open up avenues for like going across the river, and i like that. but i, as far as making a whole city of streetcars, i would not be in favor of that. >> let's talk about crime. and we've seen the numbers go dow

it has been nearly a month since the decriminalization of marijuana in the district. no tickets were issued to people caught with small amounts of the drug. as sam ford reports, some people caught with marijuana are still ending up behind bars. >> do you know anybody who got a ticket? >> no, sir. >> finding somebody who has been ticketed -- >> i don't know anybody who got a ticket. >> on july 17 when the law took effect three last wednesday, august 6, the police issued 35 of the $25 tickets for possession and made arrests for possession of more than in announce. tickets, nobody has paid. at least that is what the d.c. office of administrative hearings reports. >> we have gotten none so far. not one. >> surprised? >> a little bit. thehey have complained to pass the law is not enforceable because the police are not allowed to ask the person being ticketed for identification must accept whatever they say. who authored the bill was not available today. muriel bowser says that aspect needs to be changed. >> the ticket has to be enforceable. any law that is not enforceable

recent news reports have noted pressure to decriminalize march at the federal level as well. perhaps most disturbing is evidence that marijuana use among teenage drivers is increasing and their perceived risk of marijuana risk is decreasing. in 2013, wecompleted a yearlong review of substance-impaired driving including drug use and concluded there is not enough data on drunk driving. consistently, we asked nhtsa to conduct this study. we understand that nhtsa is working on this recommendation. lack of data about drug impairment is not only a problem in highway accidents but other transportation modes. in general yaichgs, our investigators sometimes see evidence of drug use by pilots involved in accidents. so we decided it was time to look at this issue in greater detail. in september we will meet to discuss drug use in general aviation, examining toxicology testing results conducted on fatally injured general aviation pilots. we will look at over-the-counter prescription and illicit drugs in pilots. we're missing important data on the role of illegal drugs and not only that b

have a show down with members of the congress who has blocked funding to the district efforts to decriminalize people. >> i'm not sure what he's doing for marijuana, he's watching over columbia and we recent it. >> 18 states have decriminalized marijuana, two of them have made it legal all together. the district between them and washington, no one in congress is second-guessing their decisions. . >>> and dc voters will go to the polls on november 4th. >>> they got crowded today. carol schwartz turned in paperwork. she's running as a independent. >>> the good news there's nothing severe. these have been heavy storms. this batch of storms has held together since 3:30 this afternoon. we'll zoom in. that's the past two hours. a heavy storm now coming in the panhandle of west virginia, a heavy storm and this will cross 66 shortly. again, just red indicates heavy rainfall. an inch per hour. we don't see gusty winds or hail if them. this is a heavy storm, it will cross over and we'll stay in the storm tracker at charlestown at 7:22. this is a good storm too. it's smaller but headed towards manassas a

and also on decriminalization as hiv prevention. finally, the implementation track now has the largest number of abstract submissions of any track. those of you who work out there, you are an enormous sector. there was great science so very encouraging outcomes. also one or two warnings. good news that earlier disclosure turned out to have adherence to therapy. that is an important finding. happily, in africa, many of those kids are surviving. a challenging issue with plan b, occluding the hiv therapy which looks like their retention is not as good as we had hoped. they are falling off and that is going to be an important challenge. so i would say that finally, the other thing that emerged was how much more granular -- you are talking about the data and the strategic use of data, the importance of targeting resources to where the virus is, to where people need treatment. where transmission is ongoing. given what the global funding climate looks like and given the fact that we are beginning to bear down on this. >> i have to thank yo

we are the south african national aids council pushing its government to decriminalize sex work.i'm sure the discussion is coming up even more strongly in other countries heard how must you think we can expect scientific communities to step up and make an issue out of what we now know is true? >> thank you, great questions. one was around funding concerns. i think it is a larger question. the second was on social media and mobile technologies and the this very important question, what is the role of science now in the political sphere on the issue of sex work and the relationship with incidents of criminalization. >> i talked briefly about the budget. we're tanzania come back for week of discussions with us last week. as an important discussion because we're not putting the budget. the budget has not been cut and it is not being cut in kenya. their a funding envelope. it is a mix of old and new money. this craving a total funding. do weyou question is is have enough resources. what we're doing right now is trying to look at how to get to --90-90 in high preference high prevalence

what he's doing for marijuana, he's watching over columbia and we recent it. >> 18 states have decriminalizeduana, two of them have made it legal all together. the district between them and washington, no one in congress is second-guessing their decisions. . >>> and dc voters will go to the polls on november 4th. >>> they got crowded today. carol schwartz turned

hear from the general manager ron ron hextall ahead in mayor nutter still has not signed a bill decriminal icing small amounts of marijuana in philadelphia. today he criticized the legislation. city needs a more comprehensive approach to dealing with marijuana he reject claims by jim ken that i marijuana arrests unfairly target black men. >> it is an insult to the have african-american community that all of this discussion and debate is revolving around whether or not black guys can smoke as much joint or weed as white guys. that is a bogus issue. it is an insult to the community. >> mayor nutter said people are more concern with jobs and school system. mayor has until september 11th to sign or veto the bill. >>> well, montgomery county sheriff's office says it is providing its k-9's with another level of safety. 3-d nine's received their official law enforcement badges today and "eyewitness news" was there at montgomery county courthouse in norristown. these badges will help to more clearly identified the k-9's as police dogs, at the the event they get separated from their handler during

how the administration could keep it on the dea's list of most dangerous drugs in the move to decriminalize and each legalize the drug. from earlier this year, this hearing is about an hour, 45 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> good afternoon. i'd like to call this subcommittee hearing of the subcommittee on government operations of the government oversight reform committee to order. welcome, everyone. sorry for our late start. we did have votes that delayed the beginning of this hearing, but we will go ahead and proceed. and let me just cite, first, the order of business. we'll hear from statements from members as they return from votes or through unanimous consent. we will also include their statements in the record. we will have one witness today, mr. michael botticelli from the office of national drug control policy. he's joining us. we will hear from that witness, and then members will be able to question the witness. so usually the chair gets a couple of extra minutes in introductory statements from launching the hearing, and i'll go ahead and get started as we have other members

in addition, recent news reports pressure to decriminalize marijuana at the federal level as well. perhaps most disturbing is evidence that marijuana use among teenage drivers is increasing and the perceived risk of their want use is decreasing. year-long completed a review of substance impaired driving which included drug use, and we concluded that there is not enough data on drunk driving. consequently we asked knits at and wewe asked ntsa understand are working on our recommendation. lack of data about drug an issue ins also other transportation modes. investigators sometimes the evidence of drug use by pilots who are involved in accidents. so we decided it was time to look at this issue in greater detail. in september we will meet to discuss drug use and general aviation by examining toxicology on aviationsults pilots. we are missing important data on the role of illegal drugs and the public is written much unaware of important information about how illegal drugs may also affect her performance. we will examine drug use in general aviation as compared to trends in the u.s. popu

>> guest: we have seen decriminalization. people talk about the netherlands and portugal but these two states where the first jurisdictions on earth to ever allow the commercial sale of marijuana which makes this -- uruguay has filed suit. what's interesting is this is left the community and a bit of a scramble. the u.s. government is a signatory to treaties that say you have to pursue and stop the use of illegal drugs including marijuana. international narcotics control board has sent letters to the united states into uruguay following these legalization moves and as a watchdog body international narcotics board doesn't have a lot of teeth. a park slope at his neverland teeth. the truth is very little the states -- states are not signatories to international and the federal government can pursue marijuana cues in any of the states but can't require the states use their resources to pursue marijuana grocers and -- growers and users. the federal government has been really quiet and has taken a backseat. if they were ever going

the south african aids council pushing to decriminalize sex work. i'm sure the issue is coming up stronger in other countries. how much can we expect these communities to step up and make an issue out of what we now know is true? >> thank you, great questions. one was around funding concerns e focus on tanzania and kenya, but i think it was a larger question. and the last very important question is what's the role of science now on the political on the issue of sex work and the relationship with incidents and criminalization. would you like to start? >> i can talk briefly about the budget. i think we had tanzania come back for a week of discussions with us last week. very important discussion because we're not cutting the budget in tanzania. the budget hasn't been cut. and the budget isn't being cut in kenya. they're total funding envelope is the same. it's the mix of how it's old and new money and creating that total funding envelope. but i think what your question is do you have enough resources. and so what we're doing right now is try to look ho

in addition, recent news reports noted pressure to decriminalize marijuana at the federal level as well. perhaps most disturbing as we've heard mentioned in the opening statements is evidence that marijuana use among teenage drivers is increasing and their perceived risk of marijuana use is decreasing. in 2013, we completed a year-long review of substance impaired driving which included drug use and we concluded there is not enough data on drunk driving. consequently we asked ntsa to establish guidelines for collecting this data to enable policymakers to make more informed decisions on how to address this important issue. we rnd ntsa is working an this poll la issue. in general aviation, our investigators sometimes see evidence of drug use by pilots who are involved in accidents. so we decided it was time to look at this issue in greater detail. in september we will meet to discuss drug use in general aviation by examing toxicology testing results conducted on fatally injured general aviation pilot. we'll look at over-the-counter prescription and illicit drugs in pilots. we're missing i

. >> including decriminalizing pot? >> including decriminalizing pot. >> so you're saying the "new york times" is late to this? >> i'm saying the "new york times" is pulling a fery buehler where you jump out in front of the parade and act like you're leading it. this has been in elite circles for years now. when colorado, the district of columbia, washington state, beat the "new york times" position, you can't say the "new york times" was out in front of anything. more over, the hypocrisy of the "new york times" invoking state >> saying once we reveal the federal law each state can -- >> i am very much -- i would push almost all of these things down to the lowest level possible. but the "new york times" doesn't have that position on tobacco or anything else except on policies where it thinks it will advance the ball. >> kelly, we saw a little bit in those clips and the rest of the media not falling into those line about glowingly positive reports about let's legalize pot. >> gawker, which can be snarky sometimes, i thou

decriminalizing marijuana has become mainstream.vement championed by rand paul continues to face persistent doubts about the viability and staying power. democrats remain highly suspicious of a ideology predicated on free markets. and as for the gop, draper writes it's hard to know whether republicans can ever make peace with the movement they spends a generation deriding. in practice, whenever a republican politician behaved more like a libertarian than party loyalist, the paerlt has made him pay for it. long relegated to the sidelines, libertarians find themselves front and center. the question is, can they stay there? join being me now is author, robert draper. good to see you. >> good to see you, alex. >> let's talk about the pushback here. dave fromm writes, the libertarian moment is a phase in internal republican party factionalism. and predicts it will last only as long as it takes to get conservatives in the white house. do you -- how do you respond to that? >> he has a point but not much of a point. i think that after all,

earlier this year mayor vincent gray sign add law decriminalizing marijuana. >>> an f.b.i. forensic computer expert is expected to tat stand again today in a corruption trl of former virginia governor bob mcdonnell and his wife, maureen. mcdonnells are charged in a 14- count indictment for receiving gifts and loans from businessman jonnie williams. peggy fox has been following that trial which is now in its eighth day. peggy joins us from richmond with more. hey there, peggy. >> reporter: hey, debra. yeah, the most interesting thing going on right now is mary sutherland is on the stand. she is the former chief of staff for the first lady, the former first lady. she's delivering some pretty damaging testimony. here's the video of maureen mcdonnell walking into court this morning. every morning bob mcdonnell comes in first and then maureen mcdonnell comes in. but anyway, mary sutherland talked about that shopping trip, that infamous shopping trip where jonnie williams dropped $20,000 on maureen mcdonnell. she said that maureen mcdonnell was having a great time. she was so hap

the district of colombia now allow some form of medicinal marijuana and 18 have passed pass decriminalizationmith with the cannabis policy center says it's time for the federal government to change its policies too. >> the immediate goal is to allow states to decide their own policies and move forward without interference. >> reporter: shops that sell marijuana in colorado or washington often have trouble getting federally insured banks to take the proceeds of their business. >> ideally the federal government will create a system to tax and regulate marijuana just like it does with alcohol r in april attorney general eric holder said the justice department will still enforce drug laws but in a way that maximizes limited federal resources. >> we will prevent marijuana from getting into the hands of minors. we will prevent violence in the trafficking sale of marijuana, prevent the cartels from profiting. >> reporter: but holder has not removed marijuana from the list of drugs considered dangerous by the government. that, he says, will be up to congress. anna werner, cbs news, new york. >>> comi

so then we had this discussion about should it be decriminalization. but nobody could figure out what that really meant. so we decided no, the cleanest and simplest thing is to say repeal the federal law. and that's it. because 37 -- >> take that law off the books. >> not the law, i'm sorry, but the classification of marijuana under that law, just delete it. and there are some other ancillary things that have to happen. there is a treaty that is going to be a problem. >> okay, so everybody you said was unanimously in favor of this. there were no dissent. >> no. >> but did you have to in your discussions get past any kind of hurdles, for example. >> yes. >> for a long time people that i know and respect have argued that no matter what you think, marijuana leads you to addiction to other much more serious drugs. >> yes, the very first thing we did, well the first thing i did was make sure my boss was okay with it it because i work for him. and unlike-- arthurs salzberger and unlike the executive editor who is my friend and colleague and doesn't have to c

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curbing demand is growing in popularity but meant increasing penalties on johns without decriminalizing sex workers. it's interesting, because of sex trafficking and the fact that it's so omni present in the united states, a lot of states fewer than 20 passed safe harbor laws which means when they catch an underaged prostitute they do not arrest them they put them in treatment and assume they have been trafficked and put them in treatment. but why so maybe we are moving toward the swedish model but why have we not always penalized the johns unless the women alone? >> i think we should be penalizing the johns but i don't think we should be encouraging women to sell their bodies for sex. even if that is a woman's choice it is a good thing for them in the long-run or their children. under this law they are saying if a woman is sell herself for sex it is ok that her two-year-old is next door. >> or drugged under the bed as the story. >> these are dangerous things. i think we absolutely should not go after the johns for sure, but we should not make this the kind of career that somebody would

and there's been a real push now people saying, all right, maybe we should decriminalize it.ll of a sudden there's a different debate there because some people have had the courage to talk about legalizing it. even folks on the right, rick perry, grover norquist and other interesting folks out front on this, george schultz for years and years, william f. buckley in his day, william freeman talking about moving in a different direction. most people would acknowledge the idea that the federal government has in their controlled substances act marijuana sitting side by side with heroin and lsd and above in terms of its potency and problems, above methamphetamine and cocaine, that's absurd and it's time we become more mature on this topic, have courage of our convictions, try to bring people that are concerned, parents, on to a conversation or on board a conversation where we can work through the black market concerns, work through the legitimate cultivation concerns, the issue of edibles, which are real concerns i have, particularly as a parent, and how we do this in a thoughtful

i am for decriminalization of marijuana, for example. do not think the government should be involved in the business of marriage. government smaller in every area of life except for the protection of life, liberty, and property. i do not believe laws with her guard to abortion have anything to do with filing should the liberty. i do not believe you have the liberty to murder another human being or the potential of another human being. host: republican call from california. caller: i have a couple questions. is -- whens to you you talk about government, the and whatovernment, senators and representatives are supposed to do, you do not have what the rolesf of what a senator is supposed to do or what a president is supposed to do. in terms of what their duties are and the roles are, -- i am a republican, and the president does have executive duties he is supposed to carry out. when it comes to immigration, issue that bush signed. president barack obama has to act upon that. if he does not, he is violating the constitution. so if republicans

>> guest: we have seen decriminalization. people talk about the netherlands and portugal but these two states where the first jurisdictions on earth to ever allow the commercial sale of marijuana which makes this -- uruguay has filed suit. what's interesting is this is left the community and a bit of a scramble. the u.s. government is a signatory to treaties that say you have to pursue and stop the use of illegal drugs including marijuana. international narcotics control board has sent letters to the united states into uruguay following these legalization moves and as a watchdog body international narcotics board doesn't have a lot of teeth. a park slope at his neverland teeth. the truth is very little the states -- states are not signatories to international and the federal government can pursue marijuana cues in any of the states but can't require the states use their resources to pursue marijuana grocers and -- growers and users. the federal government has been really quiet and has taken a backseat. if they were ever going

however, states beginning to implement marijuana decriminalization, and there are now 22 of them plus the district of columbia, must act swiftly to address the fact that there really is no legal limit set for driving under the influence of marijuana as there is with alcohol. for instance, field sobriety tests may be accurate and effective at detecting marijuana impairment. a study of the uk examining the accuracy of field sobriety tests in gauging the amount of marijuana participate pants had consumed concluded there is, quote, a strong correlation between can nis dose received and whether impairment was judged to be present, unquote. of course, anecdote must not substitute for rigorous scientific data. that's why i believe we must support further research in this field to inform the development of effective public safety policies regulating marijuana. and my friend dr. fleming and i had a discussion at one of our hearings on this very matter and i think we agree that that has to be the basis for moving forward. it's got to be based in science, and we need more of it. my concerns over

we had the discussion about, should it be decriminalization?body could figure out what that means. the cleanest and simplest thing is to say, repeal the federal law. that is it. >> take that law off the books. states can do whatever they want. >> the classification of marijuana, delete it. there are other things that have to happen. >> there was no descent. did you have to get past any hurdles? people i know and respect have argued, it leads to addiction to other drugs. >> the first thing i did was make sure my boss was ok with it. i work for him. the publisher arthur sulzberger -- i do have to care. in terms of what stories he wants to cover. i represent him. >> you write what the publisher thinks, supposedly. >> we generally agree on the big things. >> if there is an argument, does he say i disagree with you but go ahead. >> yes. you have to be willing as a publisher, if you want to have an independent editor, to do what he says. you have to have confidence in that person. it is never anything huge. >> is he involved in these conversations? o

. >> there's a big difference between decriminalization, legalization and full on commercialization.have unfortunately done all three. report roar the group says legalization is sending the wrong message to kids. she says colorado has the highest pot use among teens. the children's hospital in denver has already reported six children who became seriously ill after ingesting edible marijuana. >> right now, to have, you know, a piece of candy that's a bite sized piece of candy that has 10 servings of marijuana in it, i mean, it's sending people to the er. >> reporter: but for most in colorado, this is the new normal. and for john mccoy it's about time. >> i think we're heading toward legalization in most of the country and for people like us we don do alcohol, you know, we think this is a much safer thi thing. >> reporter: but whether or not this will be what new jersey and pennsylvania look like in the future remains to be seen. in denver, colorado, chris o'connell, fox 29 news. >> of course, legalized recreational pot is a very controversial subject and we've also covered many studie

or even decriminalization. but also have the high standards for all that fly in the air realizing that there are new threats when it comes to thc. one last question. what sort of guidance are you getting from the white house? you know the president has been giving some queues on this. in 2011 he made very clear statements that marijuana shouldn't be legalized. that it is a potential dangerer and certainly young people should stay away from it. but in 2014 he made other statements that suggested that it is maybe no worse than tobacco and alcohol. i would love to hear from you as government agencies what sort of guidance, if any, are you getting from the white house. > we are a part of the national drug strategy. the office has provided us support for our roadside survey and for other research that we have done. i would say that we are getting very good input and very good support. >> ok. anyone else? >> i would also say we work closely with the national drug control policy onsetting standards. we worked well wit

the econ 101 class supply and demand -- and we also talk about the effects of legalization or decriminalization. now we have a laboratory for that. so it's a living lack torrie. and on the sports side we have some major cases in the ncaa, so rather than yew standard oil from 100 years ago, we can talk about the ncaa, with antitrust issues. we have cases going on, things going on in the world now that make it much more applicable. >> when you can bring in those contemporary things that resonate with the students who are, well, let's say they're probably aware of what's going on in colorado, and washington state, and certainly the ncaa, your ability to reach them is that much greater. >> absolute i the case. >> professor, thank you very much. continued good luck with the soccer. and jeff bergstrand at mendoza business school at notre dame, we thank you for being here. >>> tomorrow or back to school special rolls on with the dean of nyu stern business school. what advise would peter henry give president obama right now in his final years in the white house? lessons from the c suite offered up to t

. >> it was very, very important because it both decriminalized contraception and established the right> how many states repealed their law against birth control just in this past year? ten states changed or repealed their laws against birth control. but if i can add the end of 1964 to that, it makes it 13. so, that's kind of a national movement. >> nearly 7 million american women are now taking oral contraceptives, and they are said to be almost 100% effective. >> the birth control pill meant suddenly women could finish their education, they could go in the workforce. and that is what radically changed, i think, life for women in america, was that ability to not only plan their families but to plan their lives. >> what happened when you went inside? >> well, when i went inside, it said "no women." >> what do you feel about this idea that they won't hire women? >> we feel that it's unfair, because we feel that women will work just as good as men and better. >> we're not hiring women at this particular time for the very simple reason. the jobs we have available are jobs that only men are