dee dee myers, you and i were there in 1994 when president clinton gave his speech.al coverage. he held up a health security card we were supposed to have. it doesn't work. i still have to use my writer's guild health insurance card to get health insurance. this sound as strong as president clinton was when he faced the same audience. >> the process was dimpbts. president clinton and the leadership of mrs. clinton drafted a bill which he introduced in his speech to the congress. as the legislative process went forward and it was clear there were a lot of resistance in the bill, the president at the state of the union held up the pen and drew a line in the sand and the legislative process fell apart after that. president obama is not saying take these provisions or i will veto the bill. he's saying work with me. you know, you say you want health reform, you don't like this refrorm, bring me your ideas. he's trying to keep this a bipartisan bill. >> david gregory, calling you out if you're a republican and you say something about death panels is one thing, but what do

dee dee. there is a different standard here for a popular president. by the way, the economy was so good in '98, that's the reason bill was able to escape. >> well, i think it's almost the opposite. i think that we were in a time of peace and prosperity, and the country had the luxury of elevating this. >> oh, i'm sorry. >> to an impeachment. are you kidding me? >> let me go back to a fact here. i like a fact here. in the newest book called "the clinton tapes," which are actually not the tapes or about the tapes, bill clinton points out that his big mistake was thinking that he had impeachment beat when he did so well in the '98 elections when the congressional republicans did so badly. and he thought he had it beaten. and he thought he watched impeachment away and the tide of public disapproval was his phrase to his friend, taylor branch. disapproval was his phrase. he was wrong, because they had a party -- pat, that's remained his mistake. he thought he had it beat in the electoral situation. what he didn't realize, the caucus on capitol hill was loaded for bear and wouldn't stop. even if they lost the election over it. >> he was not entirely wrong. the house went ahead with it, red hots did it, but they walked it over to the senate and senate wanted no part of it, chris. they wanted that thing out of there, because they thought it was responsible for the defeat. but again, president clinton was doing fairly well, as dee dee said. he brought that on himself. anybody that had gotten in a mess like that, especially clinton, because of his history, i mean, he just -- he dealt these cards right into the hands of his opposition, and he shouldn't have been surprised they ran with them. >> okay. is it helpful to pat -- not to pat buchanan. everything is helpful to you, pat, whether anybody wins or loses in any election for some reason. and you should, of course. let me ask, dee dee, is it helpful to barack obama to have bill clinton out there comparing his problems of 1998 with monica with barack obama's problems on health care? is it helpful to barack obama? >> i didn't hear president clinton do that, but i think what is helpful -- >> yes, he did. can we play it again? >> i'm tell you what's helpful when he points out as he did, the republicans don't have a plan. they don't have any alternative, they're just out there. they're not acting in the best interest of the country in their opposition to barack obam

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at the podium today, he had only good things to say about our president. let's watch. >> american ares happy, proud that one son of african governors the united states of america. now the american people, the black african kenyan young voted for him and made him a president. we are content and happy if obama can stay as president of the united states of america. >> did you hear. he called him a kenyan. our president. a kenyan. he wants obama to be president for life. birthers alert, another chance to go crazy. up next, art imitating life. last night was the premiere of cbs' "the good wife," a series that resolvolves around the pub. lick fall of a cheating politician. check out this scene between juliana margouillese. >> men can be lazy, women can't. that goes double for you. not only are you coming back to the workplace very late but a prominent package. but if she can do it, so can you. >> that is hillary clinton in that photo. it's a great show so far. time for tonight's "big 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not right wing enough. an effort by conservatives to purify the party. to its core. speaking of the conservative core sarah palin addressed bankers and business executives in hong kong today during which a speech which she criticized president obama's policies and decisions and praised ronald reagan. is this a step back to the big stage for her? with the polarizing palin in action, numbers to purify the party in the south, what's the future of conservatism in his country? sam tan hous is editor of "the new york times" book review, author of "the death of conservatism." thanks for joining us. your book points a traditional threat in conservativism, fight for what's good and correct what isn't. not to be a constantly insurrectionist trouble-making party. no one is listening to you. >> i guess not, chris. by the way, gadhafi does a great borad imitation, i think. in south carolina you have a guy who doesn't need to be purified. he is true blue or true red ideological conservative. why are they going after him? he thought joe wilson dishonored the house that he's a member of. conservatism is supposed to be about honoring and respecting political traditions and institutions. that's what ing list did and now they're saying he's not pure enough. it's interesting, too, because what we see is the old culture war coming back. nobody is looking at inglis' record. they're saying he piled on the other guy. this isn't about policy or politics. it's a kind of verbal war that they're, you know, waging against this guy. also notice how when you see a party reduced to its kind of minority core as this group is, everybody runs to the right. you might think when they've been kind of pushed over to the side there that they would want to crawl back to the center because that's how the republican party got into power 234 the first place. by capturing the center. >> let me report to you another way of looking at this. i'll challenge you. here's something of an intellect. your great book -- >> don't call me names. >> i'm going to refer to you p.d. barnum said if you want a crowd, start a fight. that's how they used to get people to come to the circus. have a fistfight on the street corner. after everybody showed up, they handed out the bells and said come to the circus. the republican party climbed back well within beating distance of the democrats. look at the new nbc poll and "wall street journal." 43% preferred democratically controlled congress, 40% prefer the republican. they are now, having had their rear ends kicked last election and the one before are are in within three points of taking back the house, perhaps. i'm just ask you this. you advise them to be tame and civil vised. it's the crazies, berthers, flags, nuts, crazy charges against barack obama that seem to be working. >> you know, chris, it's a great way to draw a crowd and get people into the tents. we have a country with 300 million people in it. what we're seeing is very conspicuous thousands calling attention to themselves. some people on cable tv, maybe not your network but others making a lot of noise. >> take out the maybe. >> the great william f. buckley said the conservative movement has had its share of noise makers and pyrotechnicians. that's who we're hearing from now. most of the country is there. another point, too, if we look at where politics was conducted at the street level, it was the left that was doing in the late 1960, that's what gave conservatives and the republican party the ticket to get back into office because they were the defender of institutions, of social order. >> there's one point that i'm looking at because i'm a prakt call guy, not a near tigs like you. eric cantor, number two guy in the house, very smart. the guy is acting very cautious. had a town hall meeting the other day that was not a bunch of fireworks and people yelling crazy things. civilized. on the mark. he's got the polls to show republicans if they want to get back into power, even though they have to be conservative, they have to be conservative groanups. >> that's exactly right. even when you have the statistic about twitter, we forget if you look at the reporting on this, it's actually older people and not younger people who use twitter. you know, it's interesting, too, that one surprisingly strong demographic for the republican party in the 2008 election and everybody looked away because of the raptures about president obama was the elderly. there's a census bureau report that shows their numbers are growing. they're a major constituency. the same people who are worried their medicare is going to be taken away are the same ones who said to george bush don't cut into our social security. i think we're looking at a demographic shift in the country that may have as much to do with age as it does -- >> i think the older people without any slight to them because i'll be there soon. they're so happy with socialism, they don't want anybody else to have it. they have medicare that is free, they deserve it for working all their lives. but when everybody else wants it, they say, no, no, we can't have that kind of government-run program. let me ask you about this thing about foreign policy. is the republican party three years from now when they have an election, going to be the hawk party, the neoconservative party? going to be a party that's raising the flag of war? are they going to be going the other way? looks like they're still the hawk party. >> it does look that way, chris. i thought you made a great point and pat did, too, about the ideological and political bind barack obama put himself in. during the campaign it was very easy. it was a great line to say we took our eye off the ball in iraq. should have been in afghanistan. all the while forgetting afghanistan is worse. it's harder. we're learning now we didn't have decent intelligence coming through the bush years. they don't know where the fight the battles now. what obama was able to do politically was set himself up in a position where he looked as if he had the more rational answer. it may not look that way in the months ahead and we know historically the country tends to trust republicans -- >> brutal question. are we going to knock off karzai the way we knocked off diem in '63? >> i'm serious. that's a deadly awful question. how do we get out of a bind of backing a guy who stole an election? this is like dar lynn in north afri africa. we cut a deal with somebody who shouldn't be there. remember? it's a problem. >> we made those mistakes. de we assassinated the guy and do it in the name of democracy and alienate the people we're supposed to -- dee is right. it sounds like a bad movie we've been through before. >> thank you. good luck with the book "the death of conservatism." >>> the democrats are getting 60 senators it looks like soon. the big question, who's it going to be? my money is right now it's going to be paul kirk. you heard it here. paul kirk is going to 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pat buchanan and dee dee myers. i want to start with pat. i know you are of two minds about this, but speaking as a man of the republican party. the republican party says it is for a troop buildup. is that a deep seated belief or hawkish impulse? do they think there is a win to be had in afghanistan given the karzai election, the dishonesty the rest of it? >> the republicans have to have their doubts, i'm getting a little feedback in the ear. it is quite natural for republicans to be hawkish and believe in the efficacy of military power. they think people like mccain, they are honest. they do believe if we press down and keep at it we can win this war, that perseverance counts. they have to have their doubts. >> it seems the democrats are anti-engagement in that part of the world. they don't like deeper military involvement. obama seems to be off base with his party on this. >> the lessons of history are not that encouraging whether you are looking at the history of afghanistan where many have gone into their peril or lessons like vietnam wh

thank you david gregory and dee dee myers. join us again in one hour at 7:00 eastern for a live edition of "hardball" and stay with msnbc for the president's address to congress at 8:00 p.m. right now it's time for "the ed show" with ed schultz. >>> good evening, americans, i'm ed schultz and this is "the ed show" coming to you live from the nation's capital in washington, d.c. it's a big night for the president, right? but it's not a make-or-break night for his presidency the way the conservatives are making it out to be. president obama did not create this problem. let's state the obvious. the president has been in office for all of eight months and for the last eight years the republicans, may i remind our viewers tonight, they did nothing for health care. only they did tell you to get a health care savings account. the only play at this point the republicans have is to drive the narrative of failure. they've done a good job of that. they drove the country into the ditch. they're good at that. they're trying to shift the bl

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dee smith is named as a dft. and you've got the department of labor looking. >> dee smith walked into a lot of this mess that started before he had been placed into office. the lady in question requested to be put on administrative leave, and she did. by the ent of july she was filing this lawsuit, then the labor department looking into the union. but also, kind of looking at the nfl. if in fact, the commissioner roger goodell is meeting with troy vincent behind the scenes. of course the commissioner will say he's met with a lot of players, and that this is not a violation. like i said, for deesmith, this couldn't have happened at a worst time. to have your leader like gene upshaw pass away and get thrust into all these messes. >> let's hear from the principles, roger goodell and dee smith talking about the dynamic. you'll hear the commissioner saying basically to dee, in his view, time to talk quietly and not in the media. listen. >> well, we did begin discussions two months ago. we've had two form bargaining sessions over the summer. and as i said publicly before, none of this gets resolved by talking about this in the media. people want to talk about football now, not the cba negotiations. that's for us to deal with. i told that to dee last week. let's get around the table and discuss it. let's not be talking about it in the media. that's our plan. >> i never like to talk about our c.b.a. negotiations. it's easier to talk about them so far because frankly there's not that much to talk about it. it's been over 4 hyundias since the owners opted out of this agreement. i hope

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dee there's a lot more when you get the dvd. i'm standing here with dr. bernard lafayette and when you hear chuck dee, by the way he is the guy who founded the rap group public enemy but he's one of these hip hop rap artists who has a lot of influence on the rest of the hip hop community and he's concerned and involved. it shows you and he talked about his parents. so it shows how you can be influenced by your parents being involved and i'm sure that was part of the civil rights movement too. >> yes, the identity is important. there are four stages of change in the movement. one was identity, awareness, conflict and change. this music was a way of helping people to gain a new identity. say i'm on my way to the promise land i'll never turn back. but what they were talking about was that they'll never turn back to that old identity. and that's where the change took place.their own problem byg with things that are wrong. and that's what i like about these rap artists that are coming out now. they are really telling it like it is because they feel it and like you say they won't forget the future and a way you don't forget the future is that you must remember the past. >> and then you have artists like curtis mayfield people get ready there's a train that's commin'. >> yes. >> and you don't need a ticket just get on board. so essentially he was just saying you need to make a commitment. >> exactly. >> and after you make that commitment you need to stick to it and you need to move on from there. all those song marvin gaye songs. marvin gaye had a bunch of songs on that what's goin' on recording that looked to the future in terms of what african americans needed to do, what all of america needed to do to move ahead. as they used to say get off the dime and make some motion. >> we've come a long way and music has been the rail road tracks that have really taken us. we had the energy but we needed some direction. and when you think about the music like your were saying get on board that was one of the things one of the songs that we used to sing and it meant that we were not going to stay in the same place. that we were going to move forward and that music was the thing that gave us that direction. >> this is our last break we want to remind people that you should be calling right now the number is up on your screen. it is absolutely the last break so that you can support public television and get a piece of history. let me just mention again that if you want to get the dvd of what you're watching now freedom songs that for support at the level of sixty-five dollars you can get that and there's an extended version of the interview that you just saw with chuck deedollars and respect yourself and get a little knowledge and a little more information-- here's more about that. [singing] >> (gene) support your public television station now for this incredible look back at one of the most pivotal times in american history-- a story that only pbs could bring you. for a pledge of $65, we'll send you the companion dvd to this captivating show. with interviews from civil rights activists, historians and many of the greatest artists and musicians of the time, you can explore the passion and emotion of the music that kept the spirit of the civil rights movement alive. your gift at the $150 level is the let freedom sing 3-cd set-- spanning 70 years of music that fueled the conviction of the civil rights movement and in turn was inspired by its struggle for equality and human rights. we'll send you both for a pledge of support of $225. >> freedom songs, it is history as only public television can bring it to you. call right now, call the number on your scree