people may push that trip deemer into the winter until we get a vaccine. >> just because i want dr. patel to give you brownie points,ints, would adds that you ch ditched your thanksgiving day flanges. >> i was going to have family come in and of course a big celebration. we were all excited about it and when it came down last week, no, it's not the year to do it. >> you made a responsible decision. i'm raising a grass to you, sir. >> cheers. >> chris, thank you so much. appreciate all that great insight into traveling right now. dr. patel will stick around because we have much more to cover including >>> we are back. we're keeping the code conversation going right now with dr. patel. we'll get to the vaccines but i'll start with thanksgiving. you might have heard l.a. county is closing restaurants and bars come wednesday. they announced this an hour ago. even outdoors. that smart or useful or effective as a strategy? >> if anything, it sends a clear message. in terms of being effective, it's possible they'll avoid some infections. even if you shut everything down and restaurants clo