it was about criminal defense attorneys. there was a cultural response on the part of news media and entertainment media to what the audience wanted to see. >> good segue. jonathan, from the commerce report of the operation, would you agree that the media contributes to -negative perception of the public defender? >> law and order has been running for 20 years in various forms. the media reflects what the public wants. that is my first point. my second point is, i was a federal prosecutor. like any other federal prosecutor, i came to admire, respect, the impressed with the quality of work that public defenders did. the best lawyers in washington, d.c., los angeles. for the most part, those in the public defender's office for the best. the third is, you have a great product but you do not sell it. vkrmall of the media reflectiof defense lawyers come from those loudmouth, buckskin where ring, and absurd -- you know the type. barnum and bailey private defense lawyers who claim there is some sort of mission -- they are some sor

i think -- are defense-based shows. i think you are right. >> that is in large part the innocence movement, proving to injuries that they have gotten it wrong time and time again. this innocence project is based in new york. 300 individuals exonerated on dna evidence. people are starting to wake up to the important role of criminal defense attorneys, but jonathan is right. that court tv, we cover cases where public defenders and criminal defense attorneys are in court. we do not choose the cases based on either or. we see fine lawyer ring from both. often, the best lawyers a vcr from the public defender's office. they do not know the difference. >,7ythey do not know if it is cg albie, one of the best lawyers we have ever put on tv. they do not know how a public defender differs from a criminal attorney. i am shocked that the public has a lack of understanding among the public defender does, how we should be resources. this is a critical reason why i am here today. >> what i heard jonathan to just is that public defender

it was about criminal defense attorneys.there was a cultural response on the part of news media and entertainment media to what the audience wanted to see. >> good segue. jonathan, from the commerce report of the operation, would you agree that the media contributes to -negative

i came from a car rear as a criminal defense attorney.the bis filters into the programming, reporting, coverage of cases. most of the cases do not have a camera present. even when the camera is present, it cannot entirely help to filter of bias. how many of you can sit at home and watch the robert blake trial from gavel-to-gavel, even if it is televised? when the camera is not present, you must rely on the boarding -- the reporting. i have had many instances where i was reporting on a trial and i will listen to my colleague on my right and left and wondered if they had been in the same courtroom that i was in. their sense of what happened in that room was very different from my own. i often feel that they're pro- prosecution bias is present. there is an assumption that they must have done something wrong or they would not have been charged in first place. maybe that is human nature, but it certainly makes its way into reporting. i also think in our last 15, 20 years of political context, because of the wave of crime, violence, and we can

structure our public defense, especially our contract systems. when i was doing research for the commission, i interviewed the public defender's office, and they were brought into the office. they were not elected. they were selected by the chief operating officer, whose main bottom line is economics, not justice, and they said, this is the budget you are going to be given. you either do the job with that budget, or we get someone else. are you willing to take the job? that was the condition and made bluntly. i happened to be on the panel. everybody was talking about stakeholders and how we wanted a team player. i think the culture makes the player. now you hire somebody that is going to be a team player. we need independents. i am not sure i would go with the reelection everywhere. in san francisco, you have got an intelligent electorate, but i think independence is very important. also, you have to be independent of the judges. we found they were intimately involved in selecting the people who would appear before them. we found 90% of public de

many of you know her from her daily live broadcast "the best defense.next is a local attorney who has handled a number of high-profile cases including a nationally publicized acquittals of actor robert blake and civil rights lawyer stephen bingham. to his left is a career public defender from washington state. she is a blunder and has her own -- blogger and has her own blog. so'. does the media contributes to a negative misconception of public defenders, and more broadly, criminal defense attorneys? >> no, thank you. [laughter] >> absolutely yes. i think for the most part, there is the lack of understanding on the part of the american public on more critical role of the public defender. it is laid down in our sixth amendment. we do not teach it properly in primary school education. the public

department of defense used. for the counter bombs going to i would. always teach in the way it's recently china presented its new fighter jet cold f c one. mistaken it looks very much like our su twenty seven but i think it's also cheaper so two questions here first do you see this as dumping and will russia take any measures to protect its intellectual property which they have to skip iowa. more than twenty years ago to russian federation then the people's republic of china has signed a contract for the a license to production of ass u. twenty seven in china. it was under the contract with russia was to supply ports for certain number of planes but will china wants to manufacture a certain number of fear craft with the. and the deal also included some other provisions about the possibility of more knowledge being dear craft them developing the use a program further. could make honestly we do have some questions concerning the way this agreement is being implemented the russian chinese commission for military technical cooperation is looking into thes

that is not provided to the indigent defense providers. federal grants are almost all directed toward prosecution and law enforcement. so the problem to have vast resources that i'm facing right now is that you have grant funding the police department, the sheriff's deft, the district attorney's office. there is a share that -- etc., etc. that share, which for them is a portion of their funding is almost my entire funding so when you say you're going to cut 13% off everybody equally. well, 13% for us is more than 13% of their entire budget than for the other agencies. now the problem is that's the ripple effect we just had here. now they still have their investigators because they have other agencies that provide the investigation. we don't. our investigators are the ones that have to be trimmed off because we can't pay for them. our attorneys, again, they are paid for by the county. we have to cut back our attorneys. meanwhile, the prosecution, yes, they may have to cut back the attorneys. there are a lot of attorneys still being funded b

when the defense bar can start to work with victims rights movements. it is very hard to get the defense lawyer to think in those terms, but i think that is where we need to go. >> lawyers share some of the responsibility of their poor image, no question about it. there are some good ones, some bad ones. a very sad thing for me is that the law has become a media event, as opposed to a profession. there are lawyers to prostitute themselves on television, lawyers, talking about cases where they really do not know what is going on. they do a disservice to the public and to the profession. we need -- if lawyers are going to participate in the media, and they should -- whenever i thought there was something negative, i responded. between 70% and 80% of the prospective jurors believe he was guilty, before a single witness was called. so the media does affect things, but lawyers have to take responsibility, too. lawyers have to rise above their ego. that principle which motivated them to become lawyers in the first place. it is not like we do not bear responsi

there is the inherent bias against us as a criminal defense lawyers.dded on top of that is the fact that we have this position of incompetence, somebody who is new that does not know what they're doing.db& and that our clients are probably guilty or there would have hired a real lawyer. it is amazing, considering those biases, that we speak to anybody in the press. why would we go to that source when our image has been so abused in? >> but how do we change if we do not go to the source? >> we have to, but you have to overcome that initial resistance. >> years ago i was involved in the case and one of the question was, what you think about prosecutors? wonderful. what about criminal defense lawyers? one person wrote just one word, sleazy. when i met him i said, we have never met, i did not take it personally. he said, oh, i meant it in a good way. [laughter] people don't appreciate how important jury selection is. judges often totally lose track of that because they want to move these cases. particularly in the immediate case, but in every case. >> one

department of defense had pentagon is u.s. made a crofter that yes the us market is the largest nor is russia mostly produces a for export as i understand it i can say that over the past twenty years the russian defense ministry of purchased almost no new planes for it but all are achievements in the industry are based on our mass production for export but now the situation is changing. and it is i was just about to ask where the russian defense ministry and the air force are ready to develop and to become your major customers. these need to be serious i was a. defense minister he isn't just trading has already become one of our major customers in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine we signed contract to supply more than a hundred and fifty aircraft to the defense ministry a lot of news to one hundred plus of sukhoi and thirty laws make planes mobile so who are i believe the defense ministry plan. to continue buying new aircraft for the air force. planes that were manufactured before the nine hundred ninety s. gradual

if you strip away all of the complexity, authorizes the defense department to repeal it. right now we have the don't ask-don't tell policy in law as well as in regulation. so in order for the defense department to change the policy, we've got to remove the legal impediment to that change, which i hope we'll do subject to, as you know, a report which will come by the end of the year which has to be certified by the defense leaders as showing that there will be no negative impact on morale or the readiness of the force. i just heard of some polls that were taken during the 1943 world war ii about whether or not african americans should be allowed to even serve -- forget serve, be anywhere near the troops. overwhelmingly, it was no. truman did it anyway, by the way. really interesting polls. >> is that the current debate? >> it's different. the attitude towards gays is going to be much more tolerant than it was towards african americans back in the early 1940's. we have come a long, long way, not only in terms of race, but also sexual ownertation and terms of tolerance. we a

and spending on defense because that's what helps them get reelected in their districts and in their states and so the danger is that we run into here is if you scare enough of these lawmakers into thinking that there is some sort of a threat whether they understand it or not there are very real consequences in terms of money being spent and that's what i wonder here is are they being influenced because you know there really is a heated debate as to whether we are fighting a cyber war not who our enemy would even be but. you know whenever money comes into play whenever it's put under the label of defense spending congress seems to comply so this is what they're treating as the next frontier in our war i think i think very much they are many have to remember look at him look at america where we are today when we're not we haven't won the manufacturing war. we're not doing very well in terms of manufacturing products china is kicking our butt and so what is left what is there that's left to spend money on the new frontier where america is very very good high tech fields cyber security

the sum of the part that makes the whole of criminal defense work so well in san francisco. a challenge for our profession will be to ensure that cities and counties fighting seemingly endless budget deficits do not fall prey to the burgeoning business offered through websites of contract services for criminal defense. our constitution mandates that people accused of crimes be represented by comp at the present time council. not the last expensive council. on a separate note, a word about arizona bill 1070. many years ago when jewish persons were told to wear yellow stars, lawyers sat silent. we know what that led to. and even then, lawyers sat silent. we must never again allow ourselves to go silent when laws are passed that threaten the basic liberties of any person or people. today the board of directors at the bar association of san francisco will consider a resolution that i drafted to boycott the state of arizona. we will encourage our members, member firms and other firms throughout this state and the country to boycott arizona. there are other places to do business,

budget defense spending is more than fifty percent of the government's discretionary spending i mean it's a huge chunk. it's fifty percent of the world's spending on defense you know to put it in that context and it's doubled since september eleventh two thousand and one so this is something that many argue has become bloated and is really the only area where you can see these cuts being made that are really going to make a difference to the deficit both short and long term how does it become because believe me i ramble about this all the time the defense spending needs to be cut and that people just turned a blind eye when figures came out the other week that we spent a trillion dollars on our war on terror since september eleventh and you know that's when politics comes into play because you have a lot of republicans right now that are happy to jump on obama and you know talk about the fact that we need to spend when these deficit figures come out and yet is there the will the political will within you know within washington to actually cut defense there they easily will say let's

that is true whether this is defense outlays for non-defense or something else -- or non- defense ormething else. i sometimes worry that the movement here are going to reflect the movement in the economy, rather than getting to causation in the direction i want. for defense, that is less of a concern, particularly if it is the wartime variations. these moments are then independent of what is going on with respect to the economy, allowing you to estimate its coefficient easily. >> [inaudible] >> i have some results with those transfers, but there is an even more serious problem with reverse causation, which is well-recognized. when the economy does well, certain transfers go down -- unemployment insurance, welfare. when the economy is in a recession, those things go up automatically. when you relate one thing to another, you pick up that counter-cyclical pattern and get an-coefficient -- a negative coefficient. everybody knows that wrong -- that is wrong. it is the same issue, except the reverse causation has the causation -- the reverse causation has the opposite sine. that would be

the defense secretary did not deny that. he simply said the investigation would go wherever it needed to go. in terms of the internal sense of what happens from here he talked about how they would be looking again at the amount of classified information that was available in particular to troops on the front line. in the years since 9/11 there has been a push in america to the making available of more documents so that dots can be joined on intelligence-related cases. we got the impression the defense secretary believes the limit has been reached and too much information is being made available to too many people. he is talking about what people on the front line in future will be able to see. >> in other news, the mexican government says it has killed a top member of the powerful sinaloa drug cartel. he was believed to be the right hand man of the most-wanted drug lord. this debt is seen as a major success for president calderon. more than 130 people are believed to have been killed in a boat accident in the democratic repu

and the directorate of defense. i have fostered with the to dni's that i have served with a close working relationship on synchronizing the two programs. the national intelligence program and the other. director blair and nine in two rounds testified together on those two programs. we have had an aggressive effort going on for a couple of cycles now to further synchronize and deconflict the two programs and to coordinated -- coordinate with them. i would certainly want to continue that with my successor if i am confirmed. the director of national intelligence. i do not think, frankly, although there is much made of it sometimes, it is somewhat hyperbole about the strained relationship between the dni and the department of defense. i just do not think -- i have not seen that. i have certainly endeavored to work with secretary gates to actually enhance and strengthen the role of the dni. the dni is one such approach, and certainly secretary gates and i heard during the revision to strengthen the position of the dni. y

defense. twenty four hours a day this is. well at least twenty eight people have been killed in forest fires that continue. sweltering since the middle of june the country is in the grip of its most severe heat wave one hundred thirty years the russian emergencies minister says the situation is now under control but firefighters are still battling to contain the blazes in the last two days thousands have had to watch their homes burned to the ground and many others have been evacuated. reports from the region that's one of the worst hit areas. for a mistake made managing to get the situation under control of the last few days has seen a huge amount of destruction caused by these fires this being voted on by the heat wave the rush of the past couple of void now we know that around a hundred thousand to still burning across central russia that's a huge amount to be done and we still love the majesty services in the bus services have really struggled with this to put them out though the people that we've spoken to them for bonus

for the first rehearsal we showed the kind of defense in the kind of rebounding that we need in order to be a successful team and also we have the part in the spirit of the russian national team that's what we want this russian side may be lacking any world class stars but it's certainly playing. team spirit among its assigned by twenty seven compensated because of its build its plant and the telly put it don't deserve the coming season of the euro league with him he says russia had the potential to cause an upset in the upcoming world championships. you are we are a young team and we won't be under any pressure when we take to the court in turkey or we've got some talented players and if everything goes well for us we can certainly surprise a few people that are ok so that's a good start for russia with this eighty nine points sixty eight victory and they'll set up a sign for sort of weeks' time to continue their preparations defensively burnside looked good over have to sharpen up more often simply as bill struggled to score points against better teams but will come up again simple