defense. and many of us that have served thought that he was one of the best secretary of defenses we've ever had. he's currently a senior fellow at the hoover institute and a freeman foley institute of international studies. he is the michael and barbara bavarian professor at stanford university and serves as co-director of the nuclear risk reduction initiative and preventive defense project. please help me welcome our speaker this morning, former secretary of defense william perry. (applause) >> what a pleasure it is to be aboard this symbol of america's millery power, the uss macon island. what a pleasure it is to be among the men and women of our armed forces and the men and women of the first responders of the san francisco bay area. fleet week for many years in san francisco was a somewhat [inaudible] affair and it has been transformed into this great coming together by the military and the first responders, the great coming together of our uniformed personnel and a great [speaker not un

host: that is defense and nondefense? guest: defense and non-defense.ageddon, words like that to not apply here. -- do not apply here. guest: you still have to do it in a more thoughtful way over a more protracted period of time. guest: the overstatement by the guest: the overstatement by the aerospace industry

with former defense secretary dr. harold brown. >> the administration, obama administration has made it a signature feature to reduce the size of the u.s. nuclear arsenal. up to 1,000 there's talk of 1,000 operational warheads. you know more about this than almost anybody else in -- in the united states. is that a good idea and are you going to a safer world with fewer nuclear weapons in it from the standpoint of the united states? >> yes. definitely yes. in fact, in 1977, when i first became secretary of defense, we prepared in the department of defense a plan for a nuclear arsenal of 1,000 nuclear weapons ready nuclear weapons. for us and the soviets. and wanted to submit it to the strategic arms limitation talks but the soviets rejected it out of hand before it was made. so 1,000 would have been good then. it's good now. and maybe even we could go down below that. although there are now other countries with weapons in the hundreds aside from the u.s. and russia. and they would have to be included which is a complic

spending for defense at $699 billion. >> we can reduce that by well over a $100 billion a year. >> the range of new threats include cyber threats, bio threats, and a host of non-state actors. >> how do you do all of this on the budgets we have for the armed forces given the debt situation we have in our own country? >> that's going to be, i think, in many ways the biggest debate within the military, if not, in society at large. (instrumental music) >> in a democracy agreement is not essential, but participation is. >> never before in our history have we been so inter-connected with the rest of the world. >> foreign policy is actually not foreign. >> america has faced great hardship before and each time we have risen to the challenge. >> the ultimate test is to move our society from where it is to where it has never been. >> join us as we explore today's most critical global issues. join us for great decisions. (instrumental music) >> great decisions is produced by the foreign policy association, inspiring america's to lea

the missiles had been defense -- defensive missiles have been shared. number of states in the region. and, frankly, the president's declaration seven pretty explicit. but to the choice of saying, do we want to manage this or just contain the threat? we going to presented and reiterated? statements by leon panetta, defense secretary have dropped some of the hesitation is that were earlier. and so, again, there has been a reiteration of how seriously we take the threat if we are prepared to act if necessary. think it's everyone so we don't get to that, but i think the measures that are being taken are the ones that make that threat real. we hope it will have some influence. if you go back, all the problems that has posed and all the missteps that got us into the war, it concentrated the mind of the iranians. that was a time and actually suspended a lot of their nuclear activities, additional inspections and the rest. so they are susceptible to military pressure. get it right so that you apply the pressure but never have to take into actuality. >> supreme

providing for the common defense in a carefully measured way. and second, promote the general welfare. it's not just the welfare of the head of his or the have nots. it's the general welfare of all citizens of this country. and secure the blessings of liberty under the constitution. members ought to simply read that and say to themselves what can i do? while our press release says they should communicate with the people. but i would like to pose a challenge because here is some of it, and i thank each of you for coming. are there people that hold the elections of communications we've only got a short period of time to communicate. and i think that we should communicate to those people who are benefiting the most in this country from their economic status, that status having been achieved in a large measure by many years of hard work, sweat and taking a risk, but now is your chance individually and collectively to step up and communicate with your members of congress. the major members, those that benefit the most, that have the most at stake by

the defense lawyers wanted mr. zimmerman to be able to live outside of the county where he lives, seminole county and they wanted it because they said it was a safety issue for their client. but the judge said too bad. he also denied defense requests for additional evidence in the case, as you probably know, he stands accused of the second-degree murder in the shooting of trayvon martin last february following what was described as an altercation. zimmerman claims self-defense under florida's stand your ground law. joining me with his take on the hearing and developments defense attorney joey jackson. a couple of things on the docket today. you were busy watching this for us. the gps monitoring, what's -- why did he think he had a shot at that? >> well you know what? a gps obviously limits you, limits ability to travel and there's arguments may be made by the defense, my client's safety is at issue, he needs to get out of seminole county and needs to meet with witnesses, prepare for his defense. >> can't they apply

there hasn't been serious cuts in defense in 30 years. the defense industry is well positioned.hey have plants in something in over 300 districts. there's a lot of bipartisan defense spending. for example, the defense authorization bill that just passed yesterday in the senate gave the pentagon $17 billion more than they asked for. so to think that any industry or any taxpayer or any group of people who depend on government spending can be exempted from the serious problem that we have that's caused by this deficit is a mistake. everybody is going to have to pay for this. >> dawn, right or wrong, the defense industry has this reputation of being bloated, overcharging. are we at a point where we could afford to make cuts in defense spending to try and satisfy the needs of lowering the deficit in this country? >> you know, the real issue we've already seen through the budget control act, the defense has already witnessed significant cuts. i think when you're looking at the resolution here, resolving the negotiations so we don't go to the fiscal cliff, the real issue is everybody's

i want to talk about this defense. talk with deangelo hall, arguably one of his best games all season. really came up big when he needed to. >> i was really impressed. i thought that the game was going to revolve aren't bryant, and i think he ended up with four catches. d-hall -- and this is what i do. i look to see he was it double coverage? it was a lot of man-to-man coverage. very proud of him. i thought the whole secondary, i was really pleased with them. on top of that, as i've said before, their offense just didn't do their thing. for example, garcon really wasn't there. >> then he had that big drop when he was wide open. >> i'm not knocking him. i just thought that everything was so flat on offense, but for once, the defense carried the night, and led by the secondary. >> they were really getting up and staying tight on those guys. you haven't seen that out of the redskins all year. that was giving the guys a chance to get back to the quarterback and get some pressure. you see london fletcher there. just a great

defense. we have codified it in policy over the years and certainly things have advanced since 9/11 and hurricane katrina, but there has been a real gap in detailed preplanning for emergency response, particularly as it works its way down the chain into the tactical forces that would respond, most specifically i think those on active duty. this is an area that we don't tend to pay a lot of attention to and very often when it comes we tray to look the other way. i believe that we have been reasonably responsive in immediate response, immediate response by doctrine and policy are military dod authorities moving out their gates into their neighborhoods when a disaster hits right next door. i mean, that seems to make sense. we have good relationships at our bases and stations and the ability to roll out and assist is something you would expect to work out pretty well. some of that has matured, in fact. in the state of california we have established a number of agreements, most particularly the wil

and defense is higher defense production is highly capital intensive not labor. and that's one of the reasons that has that that effect of creating fewer jobs than other alternative use apple intensive there's a lot of banking involved if you happen intensive there's a lot of banking involved by capital on millions is a very expensive machine that produces these things so i was a little tech machine when i said ok what what kind of you know it seems like we have a national security system a defense system right now that's really built for a potential war with the soviet union and in the meantime we've got you know a single hacker in whether it's in louisiana or in saudi arabia could you know bring down half a city it seems. aren't we looking at a different face of future warfare. but we haven't we're still in a cold war mindset maintaining thousands of nuclear weapons that we don't need. even when we're trying to cover for other nations that have agreed not to produce them we produce the f. twenty two fighter to oppose the next generation of the soviet union's fi

be an added benefit, whether it's on missile defense or fleet defense. so i look forward to ensuring -- mr. smith: an additional minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. langevin: these technologies will not be a replacement for kinetic defenses. but in terms of raid sizes from adversaries on both short, medium and long-range missiles, directed energy technologies do add an added dimension of defense that can supplement kinetic defenses. with that i want to thank all of my colleagues and their hard work on this bill. again, i want to thank chairman mckeon and ranking member smith for working so well together. their hard work and i urge all of my colleagues to support this important legislation. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from washington reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. frank: mr. speaker, parliamentary inquiry. how much time is left on all sides? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts has 13

several defense firms deputy l.a. county supervisor norm hickling is worried about job losses if contractors are forced to cut back there is countless small businesses maybe have twenty ten employees that are going to be hurt because they're the ones that supply fasteners in the equipment and supplies to the larger companies so that california is where defense from north or brahman is building the fuselage for the f. thirty five at one trillion dollars it's the most expensive weapons program in history and has been riddled with delays so we can miss believe that money can be spent better elsewhere this money gets committed to defense contractors and then they have to figure out ways to spend and when they do that sometimes bad things happen the job that relies really on wasting government money is not a job that sustainable in the industry economy studies also show that more money on the fence firms doesn't mean more jobs project on government oversight conducted a study on employment at the top five contractors over

japanese defense officials say they learned of the launch from u.s. missile warning systems around 9:51 japan time. it was confirmed around 10:01 by self defense forces radar which then tracked the rocket. the ministry says it decided not to fire its patriot defense missiles because the rocket was confirmed to pass over okinawa toward the pacific ocean. the officials say there was no possibility of debris falling on japanese territory. south korea's defense ministry says the rocket that north korea launched on wednesday could have reached as far as the u.s. west coast. >> translator: the rocket launched today must be a long-range missile with an estimated range of about 10,000 kilometers. >> kim said the launch was aimed at furthering the development of intercontinental ballistics missiles. the launch had officials scrambling to catch up. north korean authorities announced monday they were extending the launch window by a week because of problems. south korean officials said their intelligence suggested a delay. they said north korean crews removing t

in and our defense secretary leon panetta at the national press club on defense policy and spending. the senate is in session at 9:30 eastern. members will continue consideration of a bill that will help the victims of hurricane sandy. the senate banking subcommittee on financial institutions is holding a hearing this morning on consumer credit reports. witnesses will include representative of the consumer protection bureau, about oversight of the credit reporting market. you can see that live on c-span3 and noon eastern. >> one of the things that did surprise me a little, i didn't conduct a nationwide survey but among people with long guns that i talked with high found very often the reaction, your way of thinking before and after you get a gun is very different. i think any law-abiding gun owners realizes when he has a gun, he or she, it is a huge responsibility. if you use this weapon irresponsibly or wrongly you could get yourself in legal trouble, you could cause unnecessary death, you did not intend to harm to, makes you very careful. it should make you very careful and for mos

about half of those would be defense. if you look at those million or so defense jobs that are at risk, about half of them are small businesses that would be impacted. they don't get maybe quite the same headlines as utc or north up there grom monday or lockheed martin, some others, but these are companies across the united states that make up aerospace industry association. 200, 300, 400-people companies that are at risk right now. >> david, thank you. appreciate it. >>> if you are a fan of the show "homeland," you are going to lot of true story we have coming up. details of the plan to double america's spy network. >>> and now for our fun fact of the day. on this day in 1931, alka seltzer hit the market. that's 81 years of easing your indigestion and headaches. hallelujah for that. she keeps you guessing. it's part of what you love about her. but your erectile dysfunction - you know, that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more conf

defense strategy for a new era that outlines four approaches for cutting defense spending but maintaining capability. stimson's co-founder barry blechman spearheaded the study. the report has become a must- read for anyone involved in the coming defense review or budget planning team. barry, welcome to the team. >> thank you, vag go. >> congratulations for your slot on the defense news top 100 most influential people. >> that was the biggest thrill of the year. >> so let's start off with the report. each report begins with assumptions about threats to the united states to be facing and what's going to be needed to meet them what. are those threats and what's the right strategy to address those threats as cost efficiently as possible? >> the group was more optimistic than many people in looking at the world. they see russia as a country that doesn't pose any threats now and really won't, can't for many years. they see china as a potential threat in the future but recognize we have common interests in china which would ease that threat. and they see the great instability in the middle east

repurposing those lands from national defense to environmental defense. and i believe it is probably the most accessful base conversion in the united states. if you haven't been to the presidio, i think you should try and make that. if you're from out of town, it's a spectacular transition there. so, these golden gate national parks that i happen to be the superintendent of has now become after 40 years the second most visited national park in our country. we get 14 million people a year that come to our parks. it has spectacular coastline, includes muir wood, alcatraz, we get to tell the stories, stories about essentially what you and your predecessors did this this area. our headquarters, fort mason, was the fisherman's wharf area was the port of embarkation for the wars in the pacific. just this week we brought in a world war ii 16-inch bottle ship gun to the marine head lands to put it up at battery townsly which would have been the pinnacle of coastal artillery in world war ii. so, we now have a canon or artillery collection that spans in our park th

defense makes up 16% of the budget. the rest is domestic. there's no way that you're going to have any kind of budget deal that's negotiated that's going to take as much as r out of defense. >> you think he has leverage because he can say go over the cliff. >> he wants the defense cuts. he gets all of the defense cuts, more than he would get in a negotiation and all of tax increases, including the money from the unpopular ones. he wants the money because he wants more spending -- wants to be able to spend more. and he gets really a fairly small down payment on domestic discretionary cuts, half a trillion dollars is a drop in the bucket of what we have to do. he gets two things he wants. >> one of things he's going to be facing in the second term is a middle east that's in even more turmoil than first term. what would you do about syria right now? >> the big problem here is radical islam and the president's refusal to address the issue. the president -- here's a president that ran on women's issues and we have egypt imposing sharia law and yo

the front-runners for secretary of defense are chuck hagel. there's also michelle florinoid, who is well qualified. also in the running is ashton carter, the current deputy defense secretary. now, defense isn't my issue, but i'd like to know, which of these people would do the best job. we keep skipping the interview process, going right to the smearing portion of the evening. not here on the rachel maddow show. tonight we have someone who really knows. she is one of the smartest defense experts i know, heather herbert. heather, nice to see you. >> that's quite an introduction to live up to. >> i'm sure you'll do fine. when you think of the secretary of defense job, what is the job description? what do they need to be able to do well? >> the next defense secretary is going to have to do three pretty hard things well. one is to lead the pentagon out of afghanistan, lead our military into redefining itself as to what does it do? why do you serve in the post-post-9/11 era? second, lead the country in more defense spending cuts, which is coming. a

this mystery trillion dollars worth of defense in defense into was another another hundred thousand peopleyour army, for instance authority chopping. believe me, nothing is more expensive than more. more in the middle east triples the price of oil overnight. a strong america is pretty important to not only discourage an attack, but maintain stability around the world. for people that think we need to cut those, they are being cut. he still can't get there without doing with other matters. you're not talking about affecting anybody in programs now. you're doing exactly what type of meal, ronald reagan and howard aker did in 1983 single change the nature of social security and thesis are gradually people won't feel it and will make it solvent. we were much closer in 1983 that we are today. they did their job and extent of the program. >> host: one last phone call. in fall river, massachusetts, independent collar. first of all i have a comment. i paid into medicare. how come in 2011 i lost my benefit? i have to pay for those. [inaudible] i paid $93 a month to medicare. i pay 15% of my prescri

do we have adequate defense against an attack? >> when i talked about unmanned systems, the fact is they are increasing. within the united states, it is one of the leaders in terms of using drone capability and has served as a very well, particularly at the end of the fight against terrorism. we do have to keep track of other countries that decide to get into the business. and they are. iran, other countries in the middle east are also beginning to develop the capability. we have got to be able, as they do, to be able to track where those uad's are and take steps to ensure that we can do everything possible to try to make sure they are not capable of surveiling what they are after. that requires a lot of technology and development but it is an area we are focused on to protect ourselves in the future. >> under what conditions do you anticipate further u.s. involvement in syria beyond enforcing the no-fly zone? >> the effort has been an international effort to try to bring as much pressure on syria to get a saw to step down. our pr

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the pentagon is more willing than this congress to look at defense budget -- at the defense budget and make significant reductions. this bill continues to show that when it comes to defense spending, congress is part of the problem, not part of the solution. and, mr. speaker, i'd like to ask unanimous consent to insert into the record an article that appeared in today's "washington post" by walter pinkett entitled "military funds to spare" in which he quotes secretary defense panetta in a speech who said that the committees here in the congress had diverted about $74 billion of what we asked for in savings in our proposed budget to the congress and they diverted them to other areas that frankly we do not need, end quote. that is from the secretary of defense. i'd also like to ask unanimous consent to insert into the record a letter to the president that was sent to members of congress as well urging that he veto the national defense authorization act because it extends restrictions on transferring detainees from the guantanamo prison. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so orde

in reality when you begin adding up everything that is committed to defense and to its budget beyondthe five hundred six hundred billion that we normally spend their one hundred billion dollars more. all sorts of departments national security agency central intelligence agency other organs the united states government are also part of the defense establishment provide support for it you're almost up to a trillion dollars the issue is not the impact on the defense establishment is not going to make any difference in fundamental terms but the impact in local areas places like san diego that depend on billions of dollars of income from the defense industry that's the kind of impact that it will have and you've been in the military for a long time but you have a vantage point that a lot of us don't have are there any specific defense programs that could be cut or even abolished and not science well i think there are i think to be perfectly blunt right now the f. thirty five program is in a lot of trouble there's a lot of struggle inside the program several people have told me that you ha

manning in his defense i'm sorry manning's defense obviously is saying that this treatment on lawful i mean you know especially solitary confinement really breaks someone down psychologically how is the prosecution saying that this treatment is proper and justified or looks you know the defense has to establish if there's an intention or in actuality of conditions that are cruel and degrading the government has to prove by a preponderance of evidence that there was a legitimate objective to how they treated bradley manning dramatically in the courtroom i don't think i'm alone it appears like they're tanking i mean they are literally serving every single one of their witnesses to the defense and coombs will deconstruct their testimony however what they are appealing to you know in terms of what they're presenting with the judge is regulations the fact that you know these decisions were made according to the book so having a legal rationale for it so that's how they're playing their case and what the how are they deferring the e-mails from the military psychiatrist saying that you know

non-defense jobs. it is looking at this from a longer-term perspective. it is not looking at what happens immediately on january 2 and january 3. it is not projecting that thd be defense department. it includes being -- the reaper aircraft. that are liable to take a hit if sequestration goes through. jason is on our line from -- for republicans calling from seattle, washington. caller: thank you for taking my call. ms. summers, you exhibit the knowledge that is rarely seen on the "washington journal" about things of this nature. one senators set to another senator, we should just go over the -- 1 senator said to another senator, we should just go over the cliff. i do not know if people would be happy if they paid attention to her little conference. i appreciate your knowledge of sequestration. guest: thank you so much for your call. i actually spoke to senator patty murray. she said, let's just go over the cliff and see what happens. we have been calling them the cliff jumpers. she said to me, if there

the south korean ministry of the national defense has confirmed the launch.official says it took place. the north koreans carried out the previous launch in april from that facility. south koreans, japanese and u.s. officials, among others, urged the north koreans to cancel. it appears they ignored the warnings. now, once again, the south korean ministry of national defense has confirmed the launch. an official says it took place from the site. the north koreans carried out the previous launch in april from that facility. south korean, japanese and u.s. officials, among others, urged the north koreans to cancel. it appears they ignored the warnings. leaders in pyongyang went ahead with the launch, as we've been reporting, despite repeated requests to cancel it. they said it would, in other words, encourage the korean people. nhk world's reporter explains what else might be motivating them. >> reporter: the north koreans have played out a familiar scenario. space agency officials and others gathered at the launch pad in april. they assembled a three-stage rock

do they have any defenses, are there any defenses and what are they doing to prepare for the prospect if they think that it's real? >> reporter: they have nothing. they have absolutely nothing. the people here have not had anything to begin with to protect themselves from the bullets and the bombs, and most certainly when it comes to chemical warfare, they have no defenses whatsoever, bearing in mind, too, that this is a population that is not just struggling with the violence and the ongoing strikes and artillery raining around them, it is also a population that is barely able to make ends meet. the prices here have skyrocketed astronomically to the point where bread, something that is a basic commodity, has become something of a luxury. people are completely and totally helpless already in the face of the regime's air power and other artillery. they are going to be just as helpless in the face of any sort of chemical warfare if the regime does, in fact, decide to employ that. >> is there any sense among the rebels, the opposition, that perhaps they should be more cautious, take thin

host: that is defense and nondefense? guest: defense and non-defense.ageddon, words like that do not apply here. guest: you still have to do it in a more thoughtful way over a more protracted period of time. guest: the overstatement by the aerospace industry missed this point about time and the proportion of the gdp, altogether. caller: on the military channel, last night there was a cia -- there is a documentary about two cia agents killed in washington by middle easterner. he went back to afghanistan. afghanistan had no way to get him out. the wife said that is dirty money. the fine me raised it to $2 million. they found him and brought him back. he is executed in 2004. how about the united nations doing this? putting a bounty on people. >> there are legal issues. we decided to treat this individual as a criminal. when you are overseas, that maybe what you have to do in order to get these people and bring to justice. i would never have that in u.s. hands -- i would rather have that in u.s. hands. >> i think george washington summed it up best. keep st

great matchup, san francisco, great defense and all that.olin kaepernick now a quarterback against brady and the patriots. >> but that's the real matchup. smith has 19 1/2 sacks. michael strahan set the record with 22 1/2 and a little controversy at the end of that one. but this is tom brady going up against that defense is really about as good a matchup as you can hope for in the national football league. >> so much at stake here, too, because as tony was talking about in the pregame show, the playoff positioning and a huge difference between being the one and two seed and number three, you have to play a wild card game. >> and colin kaepernick will be in one of those kind of games, those big moments, and is he ready? you know, as alex smith was the guy at least he had some playoff experience, but this is a big one for him. >> 49ers and patriots, that's next sunday night on nbc. it all starts at 7:00 eastern time. "football night in america." so this is the story from green bay. al michaels, cris collinsworth, michele tafoya. for our entire