sector defense of both parties, general officers, flag officers to sustain our defensive efforts. we need to have real growth, fund the department of defense beyond inflation pray that should be to put between three and 5% annually above inflation, that's what we came out to in the defense strategy commission released this summer. i think when you look overall federal spending this is where the caller was getting to in terms of where will come out of. it shouldn't impact anybody who benefiting from social security, people who've worked their whole lives and are now taking from social security, i don't think anybody is advocating that. there is a need for social security reform. a need for reform an overall mandatory spending. i think people forget that when you look overall defense spending as a share of the federal spending it's roughly about 13%. we are spending more to service our national debt than we are spending on national defense, 14% servicing national debt, 13% on national defense. the issue of course is mandatory spending. social security, medicare and other mandatory p

that is not defensive spending. you know, my criticism is mostly of the mainstream media, because the american public is poorly informed about what its government does. most americans would not know that we are in syria right now, basically camping out, stealing oil from syria to give it to other countries. i mean, it is insane, what our military has been spending. and saying, who has all the aircraft carriers? we do. is not defensive, it is often said. and c-span have to do a better job, that's all i'm saying. thank you. >> greg in connecticut.

to defense tech startups. in recent years, the threat of unmanned systems has grown exponentially. these systems are cheap, easy to use and evolving at breakneck speed. less capable foes are using them to threaten our troops, our bases and interests. these systems have been front and center in ukraine and the middle east. this threat will only grow. yesterday at d.i.u. we unveiled a departmentwide strategy to counter unmanned systems. this roadmap will help to ensure our joint force can fight in an environment increasingly dominated by unmanned systems. i am proud we have mobilized the entire department to tackle the urgent challenge. to remain masters of the changing character of warfare. that brings me to my sixth key area, doing right by our volunteer force, veterans and families. we have taken steps to take the best possible care of our people and their families. base pay for our troops is up 10% since january '21 with the help of congress and we proposed another 5% pay raise for '25. i have directed actio

a strong defense industrial base. he's been personally a part of the key u.s. korea bilateral relationship and has been at the forefront of working with our countries together to relook at supply chains and to navigate increasing competition across the technology sectors. most recently he has played a central part in building on the camp david meeting of last year trilateral cooperation among the united states, japan and korea and he's an expert on north korea and has worked for many years with the united states to enhance our capabilities to address pyongyang's increasing provocations. ambassador cho most recently is working with president yoon on his global pivotal state initiative. maybe we'll hear a little bit about that. it's a great privilege to welcome him this morning. thank you so much, ambassador. [ applause ] >> good morning, everyone. thank you for your kind introduction. first thank you to hudson institute for hosting today's forum. i'm so he delighted to be with you. to me this week is a week of defense

there is $600 million for guam missile defense for defense of north korean threats.t includes $100 million for our public roadway on guam for upgrades for easier access for our civilians and military. also, it recognizes guam's history which directs the d.o.d. to provide a report regarding the use of agent orange on guam and would clarify how agent orange was used on the island and start the groundwork for corrective action that is desperately needed. mr. chairman, i thank you for your support of guam and i encourage my colleagues to vote yes for this year's 2025ndaa. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. mr. rogers: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from washington is recognized. mr. smith: i reserve and am prepared to close. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from alabama. mr. rogers: thank you, mr. speaker. i'd like to yield three minutes now to the gentleman from california, mr. garcia. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. garcia: thank you, chairman rogers, for the time. this

chris rovello from defense and aerospace report. in your conversations with the administration and with the congress here in the united states, do you feel like you were getting the right support and what else can be done in the short and medium term to help bring the needed, whether it's technology or actual arments, here to the united states, so that together, as you said, we are a more formidable alliance when facing the chinese and the russians? >> well, that's a good question. but when you say right, it depends on who you are. the defense industry cooperation is something, from my experience, it's something that takes longer than cooperation than in other normal industries. because first of all, you have to build a trust between the partners. without trust, you cannot have defense industry cooperation. but korea has become one of the indispensable allies of the united states. so i think to me, when so far so good. i have -- i have been ambassador to the united states for a year and a half, but i now already realize some differe

to me, this week is truly a week of defense industry. on tuesday i had the pleasure of visiting a u.s. annual 2024 meeting and annual expedition to see the exciting ways more technology is deployed to advanced military employment. the korean parallel in particular a display of fascinating product produced by korean defense industry. as our global economic partnership continues to flourish, the companies here today have played an instrumental role in develop key industries and advancing continuing technologies here in the united states. we are at the moment in global security. each morning, we wake up to news of strikes and bombardment in middle east. russian or ukrainian advancement on the battlefield. north korean soldiers on the russian front in ukraine or china air and sea maneuvers nearby. russia's invasion of ukraine reminded us how vulnerable we are to neighbors and conventional weapons. despite our many technological advances, they remain relevant in modern warfare, alongside weapons, suicide and dragon drones. at the same time th

the department of defense released its first ever national defense industrial strategy. we are strengthening supply- chain resilience and increasing stockpiles of key inputs like the solid rocket motors that power our most advanced missiles . we made notable progress in our air defenses, another critical component of our global defense architecture, which is in high and increasing demand across europe, middle east and pacific. germany, benevolent romania and spain are working together to procure almost $6 billion worth of patriot missiles that are now being produced through a joint venture between u.s. and german company. at the same time, we are working to expand joint production deals which pan to strengthen our air defense on berlin, the indo pacific. on long-range fires, another essential element of deterrence in the modern era, we made big strides toward modernization. we are investing in the next generation of ground attack missiles, what we call prism, to rapidly increase production capacity. we are taking similar steps on anti-ship missiles across a variety of ra

the department of defense released its first ever national defense industrial strategy. we are strengthening supply- chain resilience and increasing stockpiles of key inputs like the solid rocket motors that power our most advanced missiles . we made notable progress in our air defenses, another critical component of our global defense architecture, which is in high and increasing demand across europe, middle east and pacific. germany, benevolent romania and spain are working together to procure almost $6 billion worth of patriot missiles that are now being produced through a joint venture between u.s. and german company. at the same time, we are working to expand joint production deals which pan to strengthen our air defense on berlin, the indo pacific. on long-range fires, another essential element of deterrence in the modern era, we made big strides toward modernization. we are investing in the next generation of ground attack missiles, what we call prism, to rapidly increase production capacity. we are taking similar steps on anti-ship missiles across a variety of ra

on defense.the bad guys are -- they benefit from a symmetric strategies. but also their goals, which are much more limited and local. whereas we have global ambitions in a global network that requires a different type of resource. the other is that our allies have not historically spent what it takes. one of the things that the ukraine war demonstrates is that none of our defense industrial basis is for this purpose. it is especially true for our european allies and our indo pacific allies. spending together so we are not having complementary stuff. there's more labor and in common purpose. >> and other, please. >> i thought the question -- the question about u.s. spending and its relations with the rest of the world is an incredibly important one. and if we look at the amount that the united states is spending and defense, the question that arises is why are its relations with our countries, apart from our adversaries, in parts of the world. and, i think the irony of some of the spending on chin

on defense.the bad guys are -- they benefit from a symmetric strategies. but also their goals, which are much more limited and local. whereas we have global ambitions in a global network that requires a different type of resource. the other is that our allies have not historically spent what it takes. one of the things that the ukraine war demonstrates is that none of our defense industrial basis is for this purpose. it is especially true for our european allies and our indo pacific allies. spending together so we are not having complementary stuff. there's more labor and in common purpose. >> and other, please. >> i thought the question -- the question about u.s. spending and its relations with the rest of the world is an incredibly important one. and if we look at the amount that the united states is spending and defense, the question that arises is why are its relations with our countries, apart from our adversaries, in parts of the world. and, i think the irony of some of the spending on chin

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more or less on defense.ere's how you can call and let us know. for republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. and independents, (202) 748-8002 . we have included a line for active and former military if you want to give us your thoughts on defense spending and if washington should spend more or less. (202) 748-8003 is how you call that number. you can also use that number to text us. you can post on facebook and on x. the national defense authorization act would give government permission to spend the money for the defense department. the breakdown of it, breaking down defense shows where some of the spending will go, saying the defense bill included a number of key provisions requested by the defense department that would include permission to ink multitier contracts for submarines and certain missiles, 300 million dollars to support ukraine, and also add funds to buy platforms not originally requested by the u.s. military including a handful of support vehicles for the navy, additional 35 join

so the defense industry needs to put in more shifts, needs to put in more production lines. we cannot have a situation where we are just paying more for the same. and we see large kickbacks to the shareholders. that is the debate we are having with the defense industry and that is why this transatlantic corporation from turkey after the u.s. and all that defense industrial companies in the european union need to work , closely together to make sure that we produce at a much higher rate than an acceptable price. "i know that most of the ceos of the defense companies agree with me, and they see the money going around. they also see that the south korean defense industrial base is getting into the market in a number of countries who are now buying south korea because our own defense companies are not producing at the rate we need. >> thank you. we have to wrap up soon, i will take two more questions. one from al arabiya, and then bbc russian after that. >> good afternoon, secretary general stoltenberg. you are talking about increasing nato spending at a time when europe as a wh

and defense production. allied nations have a fast wealth of experience there, pun intended, which could really be brought today. >> a follow up on that but mike first over deeply. >> first of all good morning and thank you for having me. i think michael and rob are onto something but it also think we're all suffering from a field of creativity. let me be very simple. i think we have to demolish and explode what it means to be part of the use defense industrial base. it doesn't need to be in conus in the continental united states. when we would think about we need to expand that did the westward where the threat is. we will not be able to shrink or vaporize the pacific ocean but we can diminish its influence on our ability to wage war to protect national security far to the west. what i mean is we talked about the rsf and that's great, an important part of all this. we need a people to work with partners to maintain, repair, overhaul forward. we didn't army pre-position stock. >> we done things like that, re

and when you argue self-defense, once the defense puts forward enough, enough facts to support self-defense or their burden to rebut the self-defense. in other words, they have to prove that there was no reasonable doubt for self-defense. so self-defense cases are unique in that way, in that the burden does shift to the government once the defense raises it. >> yeah. i wanted to ask you about the self-defense argument here. is this a defense that is usually a strong type of defense, depending on the evidence, that you have to show that you were defending yourself in a case. >> so it can be a very strong defense. but a lot of times with self-defense, it means that your client has to testify. but that's exactly what happened here, is that they they put their client on the stand. and he did. okay. you know, there there were a lot of headlines about that. it was contentious between the defense and the prosecution or the accused. and, you know, a lot of times, you know, anger and hatred do not play well in court. so if the defense or if the if the accused loses their composure on the stand gets

. -- defense footprint. but i would not anyone to think it is about rooftops machines. it is also about people. because what happened during the course of the pandemic, the competing pressures not only in our own business but in suppliers from commercial aviation, we have had to go in and work the human side of things. we have, for example, now close to 600 engineers who are forward floyd into our suppliers -- forward deployed into our suppliers using flight deck to go in and not finger point but really problem solve the point of impact. this has been a critical element for us to drive better output throughout the course of the year. if you identify constraint, you get the best brands around that, whether it be a yield issue, a machining operation that does not have full capacity, we can break those bottlenecks. it was a lot we can do. one of the fun highlights of 2024 for us is when we launched the aerospace as a standalone company in april, we made all 52,000 of our teammates shareholders. for the folks in

everyone is talking about the defense budget. why is it they can't pass an audit and haven't done it in seven years and most importantly, no one is held accountable for failing their audits. how do we address that? >> great question, on the audit and i think there are two ways to think about it, first that you bring up, hey, this is an enterprise that's appropriated on the basis, just about 900 billion dollars and it should be able to have a clean audit. we have certain pockets of the department of defense that actually do have that audit, the marine corps stands out in terms of services that can carry out an audit and overall, struggled to have a comprehensive audit and the process of realizing an audit and this does not bear out in our survey, it does actually connect though, to the support for increased defense spending, the process of carrying out an audit as i mentioned, does actually reveal a lot of information that helps the department of defense execute its responsibilities more efficiently, so the process to the pursuit

there is $600 million for guam missile defense for defense of north korean threats. it includes $100 million for our public roadway on guam for upgrades for easier access for our civilians and military. also, it recognizes guam's history which directs the d.o.d. to provide a report regarding the use of agent orange on guam and would clarify how agent orange was used on the island and start the groundwork for corrective action that is desperately needed. mr. chairman, i thank you for your support of guam and i encourage my colleagues to vote yes for this year's 2025ndaa. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. mr. rogers: i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from washington is recognized. mr. smith: i reserve and am prepared to close. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from alabama. mr. rogers: thank you, mr. speaker. i'd like to yield three minutes now to the gentleman from california, mr. garcia. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. garcia: thank you, chairman rogers, for the time. th

strong defense industrial base. >> you are on the defense appropriations of committee. it was mentioned and secretary austin mentioned it today that i think he said 44 states provide for the f 35. >> a lot. >> what? >> a lot. >> a lot. how do you deal with that? how do you get the leadership to say, look, this is what we have to do. i'm not particularly talking about the f 35, but that is an example. >> well, again, as we know, defense spending is driven, not just by our defense needs, but it is also driven by the industrial base and by the jobs that are created and that industrial base. states across this country. you know, we have a great defense industrial base. in new hampshire higher i am very proud of it. there a lot of good jobs created their. i want to do everything that i can to keep those good jobs and ensure that what they are doing, producing, is contributing to our national defense and that is the trade-off. but i want to go back to the drones for just a minute. because i think, as the secretary pointed out, it has, it does create a real challenge, but they

self-defense. not in support of any kind of, you know, operations by any other groups that are going on. this is defending our forces. that simple. reporter: i was asking since then? patrick: no. i'm not aware of anything. thanks. reporter: south korea and the issues related to south korea in the united states. how do you assess the factor that south korea's martial law declaration-wise inevitably -- [indiscernible] -- conflict under the president's authority to protect -- [indiscernible] -- and prevent security threats? patrick: that's really a question that you need to ask the r.o.k. government about. i'm not going to comment on their domestic -- i'm not going to get into discussing allied nations' domestic politics or management. reporter: the united states, south korea, nuclear conservative group -- [indiscernible] -- the last two meetings of the biden administration was scheduled to be held in washington, d.c., this week. but kas canceled -- was canceled. can you tell us why it was canceled or

with the eu defense industry. the new commission also about global and wants to leverage partners effectively. it raises the importance of lagging eu enlargement processes and prompt more effective engagement with this critical region. our analysis here today on the panel and in the publication that we are putting today, looks at not only priorities but what it means for u.s. policymakers our event todays brings together scholars and distributors for a vibrant discussion of what the changes make. in the end i want to express huge thanks to the foundation and give the floor to mr. martin head of the north american regional office because it's their support that made this event and the publication possible, martin the, over to you. [applause] >> well, thank you robin, thank you, the wilson center, i think this is a great corporation that -- cooperation that we would like to continue and great day to present the paper on eu and the commission because you might have read it, there was a breakthrough in the negotiation

which is why you see the defense industry and those who gets their money in congress from the defense industry, still a 100 percent in favor of giving even more to ukraine despite their losses on the battlefield. and despite the fact that most everybody recognizes as this is coming to an end militarily. and there's times of us the end of the support financially as well. save how much of those pages of money when they say 2 and a half the, and 3b5b. how much do? but how does he get? so you crave? how much does it go to the mentee in the field complex? you know, we've, we've hud politicians talk about this before. so funding jobs, you know, and the lightning, you know, the pockets of i suppose by the friends really, as well as getting various members of congress who, who get donations from these military industrial, complex entities. you know, when you watch the sunday political shelves here in the states, there are commercials by the military, industrial complex advertising, their latest fighter jets. but i'm not going to go out and buy an f, 16 or a half by 22. i might like to, but th

these attacks have nothing to do with the right to self defense. they are nothing other than military aggression by the collective west against a sovereign state, russia and ukraine, each swap, a $150.00 prisoners of war, of the agreement broke it bother you where he allows the troops to return home in time for the new year. the thing 10, yeah. and now the wave of protest drops in the capital and demonstrate us lost child against president route, as government admitted to the president. very simple, stop being us to leave west on for a while as being a lead for america started being a slave. so being a sleep move the continuing coverage of the latest trends, shaping the world right now. this is our, the international i a michael portrait. now we're kicking off the new this, our head straight to our top story. you, these are all the nations on dome air defense system activated overnight to engage on incoming ballistic mess, all fired by the who, the, from yemen. now for the cheer that has been circulating on social media review, freshman's visuals,

pete hegseth is not going to be confirmed for secretary ofd defense. it's all over. if we're on the same schedule we were on with the matt gaetz nomination, that means donald trump will give up on pete hegseth on thursday. as i explained here last night, it only takes one republican on the senate committee to kill the hegseth nomination in that committee. i also pointed out that that committee has two republican women who will be the first senators to vote on the hegseth nomination in that committee. and nbc news is now reporting that one of those women is now planning to make that a very,t very difficult confirmation hearing for pete hegseth if he somehow dares to show up for that two months from now. nbc news broke the news today of the number of senate republicans who are not supporting the hegseth nomination. it only takes four senate republicans added to all the democrats to defeat any republican nomination on the senate floor in the full senate vote, and nbc news is reporting as many as six senate republicans, perhaps more, are currently not comfortable support

while both men struggled for a gun. >> well, if the defense is self-defense, you almost have to put him on the stand. only two people know what happened. one is now deceased. the other one is mr. durst. >> it's got to be a risky strategy putting this man on the stand. do they even know what he's going to say? >> they're going to prep him very well, but it is definitely a high risk strategy. >> dick deguerin lives by this philosophy where you embrace the negative. don't deny what you can't deny. >> deguerin has this phrase that he teaches law students you kiss the ugly baby. you have to take whatever your horrible thing in your case is, and you kiss that ugly baby. >> they quickly figured out that robert durst can't deny that he killed morris black. so you have to admit what you did, and you take away the prosecutor's sharpest knife in their toolbox. there was a mountain of evidence showing that robert durst was guilty of killing. but that doesn't mean he was guilty of murder. >> before robert durst took the stand, his defense attorneys tried to prepare the jury for some of his quirk

another example of a great defense leader was james forestall the first secretary of defense under the truman administration who served from 1947 to 194849. he played a role in re-organizing our military to meet the requirements of world war ii landscape. when the u.n. was just being founded. there was a lot of imagination and intellect that created institutions after the civil war. forestall worked for the secretary of the navy handling extensive contracts and built his office into an efficient organization and served as the sick of the navy in 1944 guarding our navy through world war ii and the difficult years of demobilization following the vurnd of japan. he set a high standard for leading our men and women to maintain the security of our nation. during the eisenhower administration, charles e. wilson had a major internal organization and implemented the new look defense concept that elevated strategic air power and modernized the air forcees and he was president of general moartle and his direction of the country's defense production effort during world war ii. we entered that war

>>>>yeah, i think he really had to take the stand because the defense was self defense. there was nobody else that could testify for him that he acted in self defense. so i really think there was there was no choice. if nima mehmeti had not testified, this jury quite possibly could have come back a lot sooner with the guilty verdict. so >>>>take us through what's next. i know we have to go through sentencing, and we're also expecting some appeals from the defense also. >>>>go go go go go go go. yes. so what happens now is the case will be referred for an evaluation probably by the probation office for a report on nima momeni. they will look at his background and any prior convictions and any criminal history he may have, which is really very minimal. they will write a report and then both the defense and the prosecution will write a sentencing memorandum outlining what sentence they think is fair and appropriate in this case, because it's a second degree murder conviction. it's 15 to life. if it were a voluntary manslaughter case, it would be many years less and there wo

how do you see the defense posture the defense department shifting or changing under a second trump administration reagan foundation did an excellent poll which i hope god's them that says the american people worry about the state of america's military today. overwhelmingly supporting additional spending and want america to lead and be involved in the world and 50% of all voters say we want america to be more involved in the world and even more amazing and 62% of americans say they are in favor of it, 62% of trump voters in 63% of maga voters. americas living in a dangerous world and to bring about peace and prosperity. >> shannon: the survey said people need better defense production when you asked about that and 40 more percent said that and a little more 33% and you're at 73% of people you polled who think we need to ramp it up and our resources are being, you know, tied up across many different battlefields of this point. >> the security environment demands it for the department of defense and needs to result in more production in the american people and the survey as carl pointed out are comf

defense industry. the new commission also sees europe as global and wants to lurch its power and partnerships effectively. it raises the importance of lagging e.u. enlargement processes and establishes a new commissioner for the mediterranean to prompt more effective engagement with this critical region. our analysis of here today on the panel and in the public indication that we're putting out today looks at what this not only at these priorities but what it means for u.s. policy makers. our event today brings together several of our scholars and contributors for a vibrant discussion of what these changes mean. i want to express our huge thanks to the foundation and give the floor to the head of the north america regional office because it their support that made this event and public indication possible weren't martin, other -- opinion -- publication possible. martin, other to you. >> thank you to the wilson center. i think this is a great cooperation and we would like to continue and it is a great d

these attacks have nothing to do with a right to self defense. they are nothing other than military aggression by the collective west against the sovereign states. russia and ukraine, each swap a $150.00, present as of war. uh, the agreement broken by the u a. e allows the troops to return home in time for the new year, the in k. yeah. and now the wave of protest drops in the capital as demonstrated last out the against the president. we didn't moved to a government tom is actually a very simple stop being us to leave west on for the fall as still being. i believe america started being a slave between being a sleep the head of the world come to our team to national new center with the latest updates i a my cop watching are and always taking off the news. our head straight to our top story is well the nation's island dome air defense system activated over night to engage on incoming ballistic mass. all fired by the who, the some young man that for this year has been circulating on social media reveal fragments of a few of the mess of lace captive

which is why you see the defense industry and those who get their money in congress from the defense industry, still a 100 percent in favor of giving even more to ukraine, despise their loss is on the battlefield. and despite the fact that most everybody recognizes this, this is coming to an end militarily. and it's time for the us to end of the support financially as well. so that he has double done on his criticism of that. and he accusing him of lying to the public. i mean offering a bride for approval of the trains need to big breakfast lava, says zaleski should be wary about potentially making enemies in the u. a ukrainian president zalinski recently presented an absurd proposal during the december european council meeting to purchase slovakia is consent to nato membership, not with ukraine's own resources. as such. consent is not for sale, but with assets seized from russia. now he threatens slovakia with the european union of which ukraine is not yet a member. such approaches could quickly back fire on ukraine itself. the government of the slovak republic has a duty to defend

these attacks have nothing to do with a right to self defense. they are nothing other than military aggression by the collective west against the sovereign states. including fits psych has on the regional hospital in russia causing destruction throughout. meanwhile, moscow is talia is by targeting a moves the at field and admission death row on the criticizes the bicycle as of the holy c prizes to capitalize a form of belgian king. overlooking the historical forces, he's committed under his reign in east africa. the very, very well welcome to you from the entire r c into the actual news that we're coming to live from most, who is just one midnight and the russian city of be a company in bug. they started a new. yeah, so we take a look at the headlines this i'll it starts out, sorry, or us i'm, but it's coalition has conducted strikes on the admin side of the who's the come all the control facilities and the national capital. now that comes off the yam and load and say, ballistic and it's a kind of these main apples and a late night attack is obvi

sector defense of both parties, general officers, flag officers to sustain our defensive efforts. to have real growth, fund the department of defense beyond inflation pray that should be to put between three and 5% annually above inflation, that's what we came out to in the defense strategy commission released this summer. i think when you look overall federal spending this is where the caller was getting to in terms of where will come out of. it shouldn't impact anybody who benefiting from social security, people who've worked their whole lives and are now taking from social security, i don't think anybody is advocating that. there is a need for social security reform. a need for reform an overall mandatory spending. i think people forget that when you look overall defense spending as a share of the federal spending it's roughly about 13%. we are spending more to service our national debt than we are spending on national defense, 14% servicing national debt, 13% on national defense. the issue of course is mandatory spending. social security, medicare and other mandatory programs.

the defense spent their time in court arguing for self-defense. claiming lee was the one who pulled a knife on the many, have to turn it on lead to save himself a claim the jury did not side with after their 7 days of deliberations, but the defense plans on filing an appeal and within this battle, a lot of decisions some of them. we don't think they're right. >> and that's why we have health we're going analyze this and we have to probably go through what the legal issues and if there were decisions that were made and evidence that was presented we're going to take verdict comes with a possible sentencing of 16 years to life in prison. da jenkins says her team is ready to continue to take on the case and fight on behalf of lee's family. any defense lawyer worth their salt is going to file an appeal of any conviction. and so we are prepared. respond to that. we have a very strong written appeals unit in my office who i have great confidence will do everything that we need to to sustain his conviction. >> now that a verdict has been reached many, hi