defund obamacare. when start mike lee and i began this endeavor, senator enzi was with us from the start and i am grateful for his support and for his leadership. and i would note your question is exactly right, we wouldn't be in this mess were not for the failure of the united states senate, the failure of the senate to do its job. the failure of the senate to have open debate, to have open amendments. the failure of the senate to actually pass appropriations bills. continuing resolution exists because congress has fallen down oon the job. congress hasn't actually passed appropriation bills into law. and one of the things a continuing resolution bill does, a continuing resolution basically says, let's keep everything going, because we haven't actually passed the appropriations bills that would properly make the funding decisions on the various agencies of government, but a continuing resolution enables those who want to keep funding obamacare to try to hold everything hostage to it. so, for example, y

he partially defunded obamacare. istance for the idea of defunding says the president's self surely was going to be intellectually honest. >> several polls that point. now that it has passed congress, the supreme court has given it to check of approval. the mandate of this. they don't want politics to be recaptured. they're ready to move on. lou: you are not accepting reality. the polls, all of them, show opposition to obamacare. there is -- that is a fact. it is a disaster, an economic disaster. would you be willing to give it a year or two before being implemented to fix it? rigid be willing to do that? >> it is an economic disaster if you ask the americans have no health issues, there will be allowed to get health insurance for hundred dollars. >> the american people don't want to see obamacare implemented. they want to see their health care system fixed. that is what we need to do. if republicans realize this as a political tool, where going to lose because of the mainstream media. we are. lou: you have not had th

defunds obama care. the president signed seven bills over the last two and a half years to make changes to obamacare. i hope our friend s in the senate have plans the to make this an eighth time. the house has voted to defund, change obamacare, to repeal it. it is time for the senate to have the fight. >> i will be joined in studio in a moment by the two republicans leading the fight in the senate. that's ted cruz and mike lee. fir first. >> you have never seen in the history of the united states the debt ceiling or the threat of not raising the debt ceiling being used to ex totort a presit or a governing party and trying to force issues that have nothing to do with the budget and have nothing to do with the debt. >> really? bizarrely enough moments after accusing the republicans of extortion president happy said this. >> i am prepared to look at priorities the republicans think we should be promoting and priorities they think we should be -- we shouldn't be promoting. i'm happy to negotiate with them around the budget. >> what the president fails to recognize, it's not just republicans who want obama

the idea to defund obamacare is that the only problem that the obama administration is struggling with. the "wall street journal" reported today a computer glitch in the online insurance exchanges of obamacare could affect as many as 32 million potential health consumers in 36 states. users could have trouble determining exactly how much they have to pay. this is one of the country's preeminent hospitals annound it is slashing its budget by hundreds of millions of dollars. cutting its workforce by 3,000 people. all because of obamacare. fox news correspondent mike tobin has our report. >> reporter: a prestigious hospital and for treating world leaders and celebrities in the cleveland clinic is the largest employer in northeast ohio. however, the house will announce layoffs are imminent -- imminent. >> this is tough. probably the hardest thing you can imagine is telling people, i'm sorry. you know, we don't have a job for you here anymore. >> reporter: a clinic at the president while selling his health care reforms in 2009 held up as an example for how medicine should work. >> and part

jim. >> i intend to speak in support of defunding obamacare. until i'm no longera able to stand. s country, americans are suffering because of obamacare. obamacare isn't working. what might be as intimidating as obamacare. chinese gooseberries actually come from new zealand. some time ago i tweetd a speech that ashton kutcher gave me. number one, as a consumer, i'm a big fan of eating white castle burgers. >> stephen: inspiring, just like the seen in "mr. smith goes to washington" where jimmy stewart gets some bad acid and talks to a coat rack for 12 hours. but, folks, cruz didn't just criticize obamacare. he offered a practical alternative. >> so i want to point out just a few words of wisdom from dwuk dynasty. you put five red necks on a mower it's going to be epic. redneck rule number one-- most things can be fixed with duct tape and extension cords. >> stephen: see, america, you don't need health care. if you have a medical emergency, just go to home depot. this courageous man is fighting to defund obamacare by filibustering a bill that defunds obamacare. and what makes it tru

why will cruz filibuster with f we don't defund obamacare? here are components of obamacare that have wide, majority support. there are aspects that people don't want. what the republicans are saying is we are not going ahead with the train wreck. after you get this continuing resolution -- >> it's not -- pat. >> let's discuss what parts we keep and what we dump. >> pat, even among 53% of people that said they don't like obamacare only 23% of them said you should defund it. that's among people who don't like it. >> 70 -- >> let me finish. wait. 22% of the population. 50% of them. 22% of the whole population said to defund obamacare. >> if you believe you are doing the right thing and republicans will take the tremendous heat they will get and they believe they are doing the right thing shouldn't you do it without calling mr. pugh b about his pol poll? >> they are afraid of not getting re elected. >> don't you agree they believe obamacare is terrible, not worth enacting. >> i think they believe everything obama does is terrible. i will give you

what we're talking about right now is defunding obamacare. everybody talks like the republicans want to say we want to shut down the government. no, the president and harry reid have both said they're going to shut down the government if we don't roll back the sequester. bill, we're willing to compromise. we're giving him a c.r. that totally funds the government and continues his deficit spending. and in return, we want to delay obamacare for a year. i don't think that's unreasonable. >> i don't know what i have to do or karl rove has to do or brad blakeman has to do to tell you not going to happen. so it would be like -- and you'll identify with this, amy. it would be like msnbc saying at 8:00 we're going to beat the "the o'reilly factor" next week. it's not going to happen. it's never going to happen. they can try to make it happen. in that case it wouldn't harm them. but in this case, if the republican party is deemed by independents and conservative democrats to be fanatical and unreasonable you do hurt your cause. mr. blakeman, a guy lik

any bill that defunds obamacare is dead, dead. >> he's calling it dead on arrival. stuart varney with us. good morning. >> good morning. >> what will the house do this morning? >> it replaces obamacare with a system of tax breaks for people who buy their own insurance. families who buy their own insurance could get tax breaks up to $20,000. it's an alternative plan. it will probably pass the house, as you heard, it goes on to the senate where it will probably die, bill. >> so republicans fund obamacare and give tax breaks to americans who buy insurance. >> correct. it keep it is government funded, gives an alternate plan to obamacare with tax breaks for people who buy insurance. that's the house plan, voted on. >> i get it. economics in a moment. but the politics, now. will this fly? >> it will fly in the house. i haven't got a vote count for you. it is likely to pass the house, but it won't pass in the senate. that's the political side of things. >> two things to look for. you have the budget battle and obamacare battle. you watch the markets. you see how businesses

how many say no. >> let many say if we have a government shut down it uh doesn't defund obamacare. hut down it's discretionary. >> mandatory spending can be circumvented due to rules in the house and senate. >> it uh won't be defunded. >> you have been great. give yourselves a hand.us. see you monday night. >>> tonight, is the government going to shut down? it's up to the senate now. >> our message to the united states senate is simple. the american people don't want the government shut down and they don't want obamacare. >> what's brought to the floor today without a doubt a measure designed to shut down government. >> i don't think we should shut down the government. we should defund obamacare. >> this is not the right, not fair. it is not just. >> we are going to delay and shop a law that everyone in the country knows is not the ready. i don't think will be reasonable doubt di. >> people who think this is fun and games ought to tell people who didn't get b jobs in august of 2011. >> democrats don't want to balance the budget.

"i just don't happen to think filibustering a bill that defunds obamacare is the best route to defundingdown the government and keep obamacare funded and none of us want that." on october first... new on- line marketplaces open for business across the country giving the uninsured their first shot at buying into health care plans. but cruz and some other republicans say they'll only vote for a measure that averts a government shutdown if it also defunds obamacare. that brings us to our question of the day. do you think senator ted cruz's speech will have an impact? phone lines are open now.. call 410-481-4545. you can also go to fox-baltimore dot com and tell us what you think... sound off through facebook or send us a tweet.. at foxbaltimore. more great weather ahead.. but how long will it last? when showers will be creeping in. you're watching fox 45 morning news.. all local.. all morning. ((break 5)) ((bump in)) pumpkin coffee for the morning and i've got my pumpkin k-cup packs for at home. now i can have my pumpkin coffee anytime i want it. pumpkin's perfect. it's dunkin' with the pre

on the right, defund obamacare even if it means shutting down the government, people and the squishyicans, rhinos who say we can't win so don't fight. i stand with the conservatives like senator ted cruz and mike lee fighting like hell to defund obamacare. the very last words my mother whispered in my ear were "eric, if you believe in it. never quit." somebody else who never quits is neil in d.c. wednesday night the middle of the hot debate with the players helping decide our future. don't miss it first on fox news at 4:00. then fbn at 8:00 p.m. eastern. i seal you on "the five." have a great weekend, everybody. ♪ ♪ >>> i believe we can bin this fight. i don't think anyone can look at what i said and have done, what mike lee has said and done and have any doubt we are going to fight with every ounce of breath in our body to defund obamacare. >> uma: texas senator ted cruz puts himself at the senator of the battle between republicans and the president. now that the house passed a bill to keep the government open while defunding obamacare, the senate is poised to vote next week on what

if you are going to defund obamacare you have to pass a bill because obamacare is a permanent law, partatory spend ing. you have to pass it through the senate and have the president sign it into law. at some point in time we have to take the risk that we've got the support of the american people to put pressure on democratic senators and they are the holdouts. every democratic senator will vote to repeal or defund obamacare. can we get democratic senators to join us? we have to take the risk. >> when you vote on cloture, you uh don't know what the bill will be. >> we're probably pretty sure. >> not 100%. semi rolling the dice. >> the majority leader will always have the power post cloture to amend the bill with 51 votes. the way you defund obamacare is you have to get the super majority support of the american public. i appreciate any effort to the federal budget, personal freedoms. you have to get super majority support of the american public to put pressure on democratic senators, vote for repeal or we better start winning elections to take a majority in the senate as well as the pres

how many say no. >> let many say if we have a government shut down it uh doesn't defund obamacare. mes under mandatory spending. if the government is shut down it's discretionary. >> mandatory spending can be circumvented due to rules in the house and senate. >> it uh won't be defunded. >> you have been great. >> bring it on the age of innovation when everybody has access to a global market radius flourish. >> want to go to mars? is this a good idea? >> plastic guns to making your own home. >> politicians are threatened by the money they cannot control. >> the first digital currency. >> zero things that could transform life as we know it.

obamacare. if they can move beyond the defunding to delaying particular parts of obamacare, especially the unpopularsupport of that. >> there is not one poll that shows this is a smart strategy. and look, general custer, if you want to go, i won't hold you back. >> bill is absolutely right. there isn't one poll that shows americans approve a majority of this health care law. >> but there's not one poll that says we should hold government, the running of government hostage from the defunding of obamacare. >> they just did. they just authorized funding for the government. >> this is the problem, whenever we have these sunday morning chats. it's all about putting our finger up to the wind. sometimes the right thing is the difficult thing. i think you always have to lead by a certain amount of principles. civil rights wasn't the right thing to do for this country, it wasn't passing a poll bill, yet it was the right thing to do. >> republicans believe obamacare is horrible. >> it's about one thing, obstruct obama. >> nancy pelosi or other democrats would have voted against pelosicare or kerrycare. it's n

defunding obamacare out of the bill are the senate side but not on the house side you're going to see all of those republicans in the house voting for a measure that does include defunding obamacare right and then what happens is what cruz is already saying is that when it gets ping ponged back to the house the second time that they should go ahead and defund obamacare again which brings us even closer to september thirtieth it seems we don't want health in america anyway so the comment call raves is that obama wants the shutdown because it rescues him it will swing independents into the democratic column in the elections next year you buy that no i don't and you know there's a real you know we're playing games here quite frankly that is exactly what is going on in capitol hill and fiscal markets you watch what happens to the stock market to a lot of the other financial indicators as we get closer and closer to friday without any kind of a deal if the financial markets think that congress is not going to come to some common or resolution we are going to find it out in our pocketbooks

no more obamacare. defund -- gregg: some in the republican party, charlie, maybe we're better off, midterm elections, allowing obamacare implemented, because more americans experience it once it is implemented, whether lost jobs or losing their coverage or higher premiums, they're going to be really angry and take it out at the polls? >> and i agree completely with everything monica said about the importance of fighting for this stuff but the fact remains that this is a political fight. as it stand now, the under the counts constitutional system the government is going to support keeping obamacare around. until we change the government. and the way we change the government is through elections. and so if, if this ploy that they're doing right now helps sell that case, then that's, then that is a -- >> remember, charlie, in 2010 going into that election, conservatives, republicans they fought over obamacare. they just didn't surrender to it an won in 2010. do it this time too. gregg: monica crowley, charlie hir

they also know they do not have enough votes to push through the house bill to defund obamacare. which is why mitch mcconnell called cruz's speech, a waste of time. >> we may not always agree on tactics but on the question of repealing obamacare, we're totally united. >> reporter: that prompted this response. >> there are politicians in this body that are not listening to the people, they are not listening to the concerns of their constituents. >> reporter: cruz did manage to take a rest thanks to fellow republicans, like tea party member mike lee who gave cruz a break by way of a long-winded question. >> and so center cruz . . . i have to ask you -- >> the lowest work force participation in decades. >> reporter: the senator read from a children's book. >> i would not like them here or there, i do not like green eggs and ham, i do not like them, sam i am. >> reporter: and he quoted a reality tv show. >> i want to point out a few wores of wisdom from duck dynasty -- >>> the clock is ticking for senator cruz as lawmakers prepare to vote on a spending bill this afternoon. for a close

only in obamacare is defunded. now the white house of course threatening a veto as the bill is winning praise from senators marco rubio of florida, ted cruz of texas, mike lee of utah. >> okay, so what happens next after it passes the house? is at that moment, once the house passes this, the only people who can produce a government shutdown at that point, are harry reid and the senate democrats and the president of the united states. if they are willing to say to the american people, look, because you want to defund obamacare, even though you're willing to fund everything else in government, we're going to shut doesn't government? jon: chief congressional cannot mike emanuel standing by live on capitol hill. mike, there appears to be some friction on the republican side about how far to take this fight. >> reporter: that's right, gregg. house conservatives who pushed leaders to defund obamacare to fight that cause are wonder if some of their senate conservative colleagues are giving up without a fight. statement fr

this is defunding forever obamacare. so this is really going a long way toward where we immediate to be. >> is there a plan within it i though for health insurance for the american people? are you just defunding it or offering something up? >> we have a lot of options on the table. with introduced a pack kanl of options on health care. this is something we do proactively. we are trying to fund the government; number one. with accomplished that today. and defund obamacare. we introduced positive reforms on health care. >> one of the propoems is a $17,500 tax deduction against your income or payroll taxes if you buy insurance under the gop program. $20,000 per family, right? >> that's a positive move. it's a great incentive to get people to purchase their own health care in the private market. >> what about the poor? people have jobs but obamacare, the whole idea was to the make sure everybody is included. in your program is there something for the poor? >> there's always been medicare and medicaid. medicaid takes care of t

>> i kind of like the house bill. >> that defunds obamacare? won't try to defund the house bill that defunds obamacare? >> you know, ted's doing whatever ted needs to do. >> what is he reeling? i heard it's a phony filibuster. >> i heard it called that. the fact we will vote at 1:00. he worked out an arrangement across the field then. would you guys vote while you are talking? >> i'm confused how does that work. >> the debate will enat noon. we're scheduled to vote at 1:00. >> is it a filibuster. >> no, it's not a filibuster. look, he feels passioned about this. i understand that. he wants to get a message out there. >> a show of passion. >> instead of focusing on what politically makes sense, which is these democrats who now are going to have to cast a vote again for the worst piece of legislation and that i have seen in my 20 years here, all the focus is on ted cruz. >> going to speak. again, the house passed defunding obamacare. i don't know much about politics, i went to alabama, why we can't add well? >> no, that's okay. >> the number one

even with the differences within the caucus -- and there are some -- every republican is for defunding obamacareracterize them and say, oh, well, they are really for obamacare. none of them are for obamacare. >> i'm not saying that. >> i'm not saying you are. i'm just saying it's not fair to characterize people that way. >> you're willing to take it to the mat. you're willing to stand with cruz. >> i am. >> mike lee is willing to stand. where are the other 39 or 38 republicans? where are they? >> you know, i guess what i'm trying to say what's most important is where are the seven or eight democrats that will vote to fund obamacare that are the problem? >> i don't expect them to. they didn't run on obamacare. >> we need to direct some of our venom or an b 'tis pags in trying to make things different towards getting rid of some of the voices that are the problem here. the problem is too many democrats. >> yeah . that's a big problem. i agree. good to see you, senator. >> thank you. >> get some sleep. coming up next, two more gop senators who stood with texas senator ted cruz. they will join me fr

how many say no. >> let many say if we have a government shut down it uh doesn't defund obamacare. ending. if the government is shut down it's discretionary. >> mandatory spending can be circumvented due to rules in the house and senate. >> it uh won't be defunded. >> you have been great. give yourselves a hand. ♪ >> good morning, everyone, it's saturday, september 21st. i'm alisyn camerota. a showdown over a government shut down. president obama pointing the finger at republicans. republicans say the real problem is the healthcare plan that america does not want. >> so much for freedom of speech. >> let him ask his question. >> next question. >> so this. >> don't stand for. this you are sitting here like cowards. you have questions. confront them. >> parents dare to ask question about the common core curriculum and then

defund obamacare. stand up for our freedom. make d.c. listen. if obamacare is so great, why is everyone not going to have it? make d.c. listen. the congress, president, and federal workers have forgotten they work for us and should have to obey the same laws and rules we do. make d.c. listen. make d.c. listen. my children cannot get full-time jobs because of obamacare. can't wait to see how much my premiums will go up during open enrollment. defund obamacare because it's not good enough for congress. make d.c. listen. the american people are screaming to stop obamacare, stop obamacare is in all caps. make d.c. listen, leave us alone. mr. president, at this point i want to talk about the topic of rate shock. we all remember some three and a half years ago when president obama told the american people that by the end of his first term the average american family's health insurance premiums would drop by $2,500. the end of his first term, as we know, was last year. that hasn't happened. that has not been the effect. what has happened instead? well,

the reason the house voted decisively today in a bipartisan vote, to defund obamacare, is because thecan people have risen up in incredible numbers saying obamacare isn't working. the biggest job killer in the country. it's hurting millions of americans and it needs to stop. i absolute the house, and the speaker is right. now it's up to harry reid, up to the senate to step forward and do the same thing the house has done. listen to the american people. >> neil: harry reid says it's going nowhere in the senate. >> that is certainly what he has said, and i'm sure that is his intention. and so, neil, this step -- this process was always going to involve a series of steps. the first step was to unify and mobilize the american people. and we have seen over 1 .5 million americans sign the national petition at don't fund it.com, reach out and call their riptives. the next step is today. the unified house republicans to stand strong for conservative principles to defund obamacare. they tide that -- did that today, show of courage. next week it's for the senate republicans to unify and come to

the fact is congressional budget office says if we defund obamacare, it will add costs to our deficit we save money. you don't hear that. it becomes the point where you hear your own echoes on either side. there's a real need for reality. there's going to be glitches and problems. does it address the problem of large number of uninsured people in our society for the first time having the opportunity to have health care? >> today the small business s well.e pushed back"i >> look, i think we can have all the arguments we want. reality is going to speak. it starts october 1. it accelerates january 1. i would not like to be a democrat defending this in the middle of next year when the results are in. i think the way the plan is devised is catastrophic. for young people particularly, the whole idea of the plan is to use the doubling of the premiums of young people as a way to subsidize other people. it looks like a free lunch. if you're a you're a young person, it's a disaster. next up the big footprints in kenya. different threat environment. i would not say we have any specific, credible

that majority does not want to defund obamacare.resident barack obama's health care act is the law of the land since 2010, three years ago, and requires everyone to be covered by health insurance. and enrollment for the still uninsured begins on october 1st, tuesday of next week. all u.s. citizens of all ages will have a six-month window until the end of march 2014 to buy health insurance if they do not already have it. if uninsured people do not buy in during the six-month window, they'll face penalties from the irs. question, republican leaders have questioned cruz' strategy. why is that? >> well, the obamacare passes out of existence on september 30th. and if the house doesn't renew obamacare by spending, it doesn't exist. what cruz is doing, can't do it in the senate, trying to get the house to hold firm because if the house majority and not reobamacare. but the problem is, obama and reid will say, they're shutting down the government if they don't renew obamacare. and i have argued, what they ought to do is pass bill by bill, p

united republicans celebrated their vote to defund obamacare. >> the american people don't want the governmentdown, and they don't want obamacare. >> -- yeas are 230 and the nays are 189. the joint resolution is passed, without objection a motion to reconsider is laid on the table. >> reporter: all but one republican voted for the measure, and two democrats joined them, prompting this exuberant response. >> that's why today when we acted, it wasn't just a group of republicans, it was a bipartisan vote. >> reporter: it was a show of force from conservatives, who insisted on defunding obamacare as a condition for approving a bill that keeps the government running. but their effort is dead on arrival in the senate, and democrats seized on the potential consequences. >> what is brought to the floor today is without a doubt -- without a doubt a measure designed to shut down government. it could have no other intent. its purpose is clear. >> reporter: house republicans are working to shift blame for the threat of a government shutdown onto democrats who control the senate. >> now, it is up to senate

every republican will vote to defund obamacare and nearly every democrat will keep it in place. an albatross around their neck. obamacare is going over like a lead balloon in the economy and the only way to screw this up is to make it about us. >> with president obama in the white house and democrat majority in the senate most republicans believe the best they can do is delay part or all of obamacare. jenna: a lot of talk about the republicans for obvious reasons. but what about the democrats? what are they saying heading into this budget fight? >> well, they seem clearly irritated that this is yet another effort to try to kill or defund the health care law and they seem anxious this is connected to a bill to keep the government up and running. >> it should be an unacceptable option. there's no way we should be talking about shutting the government down. >> and they're frustrated there's no discussion how to improve the president's health care law. it's either fund it or kill it, nothing in between. we expect to hear from harry reid this afternoon as the key week gets going. jen

. >> defund obamacare! >> reporter: the problem for the tea party texan, senate republican leaders have all but abandoned cruz's failing quest. >> i just don't happen to think filibustering a bill that defunds obamacare is the best route to defunding obamacare. all it does is shut down the government and keep obamacare funded and none of us want that. >> reporter: now, despite the cruz talk-a-thon, the bill to continue funding the government with obamacare intact is expected to pass the senate, has a good chance of passing the senate later today. the show really gets going once again as it moves over to the house, house speaker john boehner will come under a lot of pressure from conservatives to pass a bill that, again, defunds obamacare. no insight, no guidance yet from that side of the hill as to whether or not that is going to happen and with five days to go until a potential government shutdown, the stakes are starting to move ever higher, kate. >> absolutely right. you have the looming government shutd