it was a little dig for degas because degas was so ac diff. his way to defy convention is in art. >> rose: the title of the exhibition is "edgar degas: a strange new beauty," at moma till july 24th. >> come see us. >> rose: look forward to it. thank you for joining us. see you next time. for more about this program and earlier episodes, visit us online at pbs.org and charlierose.com. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. >>>this is "nightly business e. report" with tyler mathisen and sue herera. >> surprisingly strong. retail sales grew at the fastest pace in more than a year so why are so many traditional stores stuck in the mud? >>> billion-dollar bet. why apple decided to make a sizable investment in one of uber's biggest rivals. >>> how i made my millions. no, not me. our newest series introduces you to a serial entreprene

degas is a follower of ang.t he learns with monotype, what monotype encourages is a kind of looseness, a kind of gesture. so you move from something very precise to something very loose and liberated. the way monotype did that was that come if you think about the plate being very slick and the ink he is using being very viscous, did that slick plate encourage him to move the ink very easily so there is no resistance like you would have with paper. that encouraged him to move the ink around and to loosen up and be more improvisatory. also, when you draw on the plate, you can make a change with monotype ride up to the very instant that you print it. it is not like would cut when you carve into it and you are making a commitment. so the idea that you can make a change, simply change what it looked like and try again. it also encouraged the kind of spontaneity and malleability in his work, and you see that over the course of the exhibition. the way it gets looser, more abstract. the idea of process as product pervad

it was a little dig for degas because degas was so ac diff. his way to defy convention is in art. >> rose: the title of the exhibition is "edgar degas: a strange new beauty," at moma till july 24th. >> come see us. >> rose: look forward to it. thank you for joining us. see you next time. for more about this program and earlier episodes, visit us online at pbs.org and charlierose.com. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and of multimedia news and information services worldwide. [ mid-tempo music plays ] [ paper rustling ] [ dog barking ] [ dog whines ] [ wind whistling ] [ wind whistling ] [ engine turns over ] [ engine revs ] [ engine shuts off ] [ rainfall, footsteps splashing ] "film school shorts" is made possible by a grant from maurice kanbar, celebrating the vitality and power of the moving image, and by the members of kqed. man: it's like holy mother of

every kind of medium was equally valuable for degas.ht him something, showed him ways to use materials in different ways. he was always interested in trying new things. >> rose: the hip-hop musical "hamilton" made history this week with a record 16 tony nominations. that's more than any show in the history of broadway. one of those nominations went to daveed diggses. >> i ended up in this group with lin, and we were. ing at the super bowl in 2012, i think, whenever it was in new orleans, maybe 2013. and tommy kail was directing that event. and after it was over, he tells me, "lin's writing this new thing. it's a rap musical about alexander hamilton." and i told him it was a terrible idea and to please send me the music. and he asked would i come to a reading at vassar? and i said, of course,. and he sent me the script and-- he sent me the script, such as it was, you know, thus far. there was the first act and some scattered songs from the second act, and all the demos of lin singing every part of every song. and beats that he made in ga

in the: put degas context of the 21st century?ou said,s known, as the great chronicler of the ballet and that is what we associate him with. but he was also wildly experimental, relentlessly excremental. and that is what the exhibition seeks to show, the way he defined convention, reached for something new. and in that and i think that is where his influence really is. we have some really wonderful, important works by the artists. but nobody -- no other curator had really taken it on. we are always thinking about who among the foundational figures for the collection we should look at again, bring to the attention of our visitors and kind of think about the 1880 whenip between we begin and contemporary art. seemed such a perfect figure to do that with but there was no model to look at. we were beginning from the beginning. charlie: what is a monotype? jody: that is an important question. it is a hybrid of drawing and print making. degasagon -- what did was use a damp piece of paper and run it through a press. it yields a similar im

one, i could clearly see one was by edgar degas. >> reporter: this 1980 degas landscape was a painting his grandparents were forced to sell. simon first saw a color image of it in a book at u.c.l.a. library in 1995. >> so, really, my life changes at that point. >> reporter: the collector who had purchased the degas had donated it to the art institute of chicago. simon and his brother sued and in 1998 were named the rightful owners. they agreed to split the value of the painting with the collector, and the museum bought out their half. the successful claim was the first case of its kind in the u.s., and many more have followed for them and for other families, in other museums and in other countries. >> it's like a forensic job. you're trying to piece together the ownership history of a painting. >> reporter: lucian simmons' job is to check artworks offered to sotheby's auction house and weed out any with a tainted past by checking documents, physically examining the art and checking databases of missing works. >> that process is designed to ascertain whether or not the painting could ha

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