clumps that pretty much might address 1940 to 1944 that there was no charles degaulle section. and there was no way to you know, when i watch elections now and the anchors are on their touching the screen and counting in ohio that obama needs to win and collating of information that can be done this was longhand and i realized pretty quick weight that the notes couldn't serve me as they had though. i couldn't figure out the source codes and the topic codes, the key he had lost. here codes. rx were his dock there's diary entries. that one i did used but other ones were a within a in it. i didn't know what that meant and i try to deduce from reading the page that the secret code was on and i made a lot of headway. so if i saw four or five entries about winston churchill's children with a with an aid in it i realized that means family. i would be doing this for the next 20 years. so i had to find a new way to, or way to reinvent the wheel and i had a brainstorm. i called the wesleyan library and i asked for all the books that will had ever used as an adjunct professor there, had e

churchill said, that's beside the point and degaulle said that's precisely the point.o a squabble broke out and then degaulle, very clever man, came up with the perfect formula to outsmart the british. and to unfewerrate the americans further. he dvded to create a relationship between france -- or free france or de gaulle's committee, as roosevelt disparagingly called him -- and syria and lebanon along the lines of the relations britain enjoyed with egypt and iraq. so churchill said, that's fine. and roosevelt said it's not fine with me, but that's what persisted throughout the war. so we found ourselves in a very strange position throughout the war, very strange, that degaulle said why didn't america recognize lebanon and syria as new independent countries. roosevelt said there's not independent. it's a phony independence schemes the british hadron up for the iraqis and british, and we found ourself in the streak position of british recognizing syrian and lebanese and the americans did not do that because we did not think it was real independence. so it's fascinating

when degaul was different than he was as president of france, the new president of france spent seven years as the mayor in self, that isn't where he came from that part of his political career but he grew fond of it and intellectually when he took the pledge of office he went back to his hometown in the north and took the oath of office where he said are my neighbors. so neighbor means in fact they used the phrase in the u.s.. when mayors are homeboys. we read about mayors white those that run into burning buildings and a pullout people that are unlike the mayor johnson that actually stopped a mugging on the streets of london. even if obama or bush wanted to, obviously the secret service would not let them get out of their leno and interfere with the mugging or run into a building and say something. it is a different kind of job that has a symbolic power. ..

has backed off of that a little bit at some point point -- but to make a long story short charles degaulle the president of france gets involved and the calmness and france get involved. they write letters to release him. and it was a big embarrassment. there was a headache for the bolivians as well as the americans. that leads to the endgame with che to some extent. the bolivians when they capture che, you have che now. how do you handle that? we talked to some of the bolivians about this. they had him but they didn't have a person that could hold che so there was also a fear that the keepers would just take him. i think that testimony and that arrest led to later the way that che is treated. they helped. they were part of the cachet that felix immediately latches onto when he gets there and was able to piece it together. and i know there's a new book that mitch can talk about in a second. i haven't seen it yet. as for the other guys in the cia we have a lot of the documentation they had dared we did talk to felix. there's a considerable amount written but trying to track it down, we try