dehalus,ila immigration and homeland security reporter for cq roll call. echalus.n twitter @cd thank you for the update. guest: thanks for having me. >> we are talking to the atlantic the adam harris about his article, designation of her all-america. how is it going? rural america. how is it going? guest: it's going good. >> what made you focus on this idea? guest: i met the author of this incredible book, "educated." earmarks on how -- he remarks on how education opportunities are not the same for people in rural america as they are in urban cities. these reports have come out, including from the u.s. department of agriculture, that essentially show how that gap in college attainment has grown between urban environments and rural environments. what you have seen from 2000 to 2015, in rural environments, you have seen a closing of the gap, of people who have high school degrees. you are just as likely to have a degreewhat, the gap has grown iu are thinking about college attainment. from 15% to 19% of people in rural america with college degrees. it is a sm