. >> commissioner did jesus -- dejesus? commissioner dejesus: aye. commissioner turman: aye. >> the motion passes. all in favor. specification two, falsely ididentifying as a peace officer and carrying a concealed weapon into city arms while dressed in civilian clothes, a violation of rule 9 of department general order to 0.01 and the interim rules for patrol special officers. >> i move to sustain. vice president marshall: aye. commissioner chan: no. commissioner turman: no. commissioner laughtus: aye. >> the motion fails, 3-2. >> read specification three, please. >> falsely identifying himself as a police officer on a record of sale for a firearm and an application for a firearms permit, falsely facilitating the sale of an off list firearm, a violation of the interim rules and procedures for patrol special officers and their assistants. >> move and sustained? >> second. >> want to take the vote? >> yes, please. vice president marshall: aye. commissioner chan: aye. commissioner dejesus: aye. commissioner turman: aye. >> sustained by a vote of 5-0. >>

commissioner dejesus: aye. commissioner chan: aye. commissioner turman: aye. commissioner loftus: aye. president mazzucco: motion passes, 5-0. >> i need to talk to the city attorney but there are instructions about the appointment. that is what we will do. we will ask the department to carry out the paperwork based on the vote this evening. >> [inaudible] >> we would expect the department to prepare findings based on our vote this evening pursuant to the timeline set forward in our rules, the closing council as well of the city attorney. is that right? and i guess we schedule it for another day. how far in advance? >> it will come back to the commission probably in six weeks or so. >> does that mean if we revoke the appointment that he cannot work his beat? >> your decision is finalized. the revocation of the appointment. all we're talking about is written findings to explain the decision consistent with your discussion. but the decision is final as of now. >> on behalf of mr. tachihara, [inaudible] >> your secretary will calendar the matter. >> ok. thank you.

you can't send it back to the commissioner dejesus. other than that, we are here for your consideration of that administrative record that you have before you -- the transcripts, the exhibits, the arguments of counsel. that is what you have in front of you to decide the merits of the case. if you find he is guilty of any of the specifications, you would move on to penalty. when you get to penalty, you could then determine any past discipline and the timing of that discipline, and the timing of the prior charges in relation to the current charges. >> when it comes down to credibility, we do have a penalty phase. it is in front of us, the hearing before us. is that not part of it? >> credibility is always an issue. i do not recall that aspect of credibility coming upper in the transcript. i was not there at your hearing. i did read your transcript and look at the exhibits. if you wish to explore that, you would need to reopen the evidence rehearing to do it. >> but we say the first of my -- did someone learn from previous behavior? if it

[calling roll] commissioner dejesus excused. commissioner turman is excused. we have a quorum. we also have the chief of police, gregory sir. uhr. president is tomazzucco: thank you. welcome to the tendetenderloins police commissioner meeting of wednesday, june 27. there are seven appointed by the mayor and three by the board seveof supervisors, but we works a unit, regardless who have appointed as. we will tell you about our day jobs, but i want to say we do this once a month, the last wednesday of the month, and is the favorite part of our dog to go out in the community. we're here tonight to hear your concerns about what is taking place in your community as opposed to as being at city hall where we have the usual group of folks but is it doesn't talk about city-wide concerns. tonight is very specific to the tenderloin task force. your audience, police chief. i will start with commissioner loftus for a brief introduction. commissioner loftus: san franciscan and resident of the northern district area for a number of years, i have some spend plenty of time going to the northern

dejesus said, you go back and tell john these things. the blind are seeing, the deaf are hearing, and the gospel is being preached to the poor. what the government has done has interjected itself into this miracle that could occur in people's lives if they had control over their lives. the entitlement programs are totally inconsistent with scripture, in my opinion. >> who is your favorite woman in the bible? >> is there was named star? that is a difficult one. i love ruth. they have been convinced in order for them to get in to take work, they have to get a minimal wage. the left has convinced people we need to pay a minimum wage. when you look at what happens in this economy, we're looking at all these other factors. what happened with fannie mae and freddie mac and the mortgage collapse, it gets less attention when nancy pelosi had the gavel, the increase state minimum-wage. it is one of the reasons why the unemployment rates are so high. in mountain there was a minimum wage -- imagine there was a minimum wage during ruth's life. they