>> commissioner dejesus: yes. when the officer determines that the threat is over -- >> commissioner hamasaki: yep. >> commissioner dejesus: that's comma. the officer shall immediately take the person off the ground with dignity and respect. >> commissioner hamasaki: immediately raise or place? >> commissioner dejesus: when the threat is over, the officer shall immediately take the person off the ground with dignity and respect. >> commissioner hamasaki: -- or the ground with dignity and respect. >> commissioner dejesus: an officer shall document in the incident report any time it is necessary to seat an individual on the ground involuntarily. >> commissioner hamasaki: any time it is necessary to seat -- say that again, petra. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. an officer shall document in the incident report any time it is necessary to seat an individual on the ground involuntarily. you guys don't have to go with this. i just was confused reading the last paragraph. >> commissioner hamasaki: i mean, i think that's cl

>> commissioner dejesus: yes. when the officer determines that the threat is over -- >> commissioner hamasaki: yep. >> commissioner dejesus: that's comma. the officer shall immediately take the person off the ground with dignity and respect. >> commissioner hamasaki: immediately raise or place? >> commissioner dejesus: when the threat is over, the officer shall immediately take the person off the ground with dignity and respect. >> commissioner hamasaki: -- or the ground with dignity and respect. >> commissioner dejesus: an officer shall document in the incident report any time it is necessary to seat an individual on the ground involuntarily. >> commissioner hamasaki: any time it is necessary to seat -- say that again, petra. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. an officer shall document in the incident report any time it is necessary to seat an individual on the ground involuntarily. you guys don't have to go with this. i just was confused reading the last paragraph. >> commissioner hamasaki: i mean, i think that's cl

>> commissioner dejesus: there was a training that was resolved very quickly. as far as the rest of it, it was pure policy, and they implemented it, and that's when they sued us and they lost. [inaudible] >> commissioner dejesus: we should talk about whether our policy is open session. there's no closed session for policy. [inaudible] >> vice president taylor: what can you tell us? >> commissioner hamasaki: you're muted -- oh, you're calling on a phone. >> commissioner dejesus: it's on the bottom, the mute button. >> commissioner hamasaki: there you go. >> hello? >> commissioner dejesus: hello. >> hi. good evening. this is lawanna preston. thank you. so bwhat needs to go to meet ad confer are items or policy decisions that fall within the scope of representation. pursuant to the brown act, if there are changes to the working conditions that fall within scope, they are required -- the city is required to provide an opportunity to the union to meet and confer over those impacts. you all may remember that, on march 23, 2018, the city attorney's office sent out a m

. >> commissioner dejesus: that's it. otherwise, i thought it was really well done. i thought it was great collaboration. everybody made great changes. it makes it really clear, and it takes out the gray area. you put in the stranglehold part, which we don't have. i think it's job well done for someone in the field. >> you have some of the questions? >> commissioner hamasaki: i move to adopt with changes. >> commissioner dejesus: i second it. >> clerk: okay. we just need to take public comment on that before we vote on the motion. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. >> clerk: all right. we have one caller on-line. so for line item 4, for members of the public, dial 408-418-9388, access 1469442932, press pound, and pound again, and hit star-three to raise your hand. commissioner taylor, we have two public comments at the moment. >> vice president taylor: thanks. hello, caller. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> hi. i want to echo the entire commenter's concerns about there being an exigent circumstances exce

>> commissioner dejesus: yes. when the officer determines that the threat is over -- >> commissioner hamasaki: yep. >> commissioner dejesus: that's comma. the officer shall immediately take the person off the ground with dignity and respect. >> commissioner hamasaki: immediately raise or place? >> commissioner dejesus: when the threat is over, the officer shall immediately take the person off the ground with dignity and respect. >> commissioner hamasaki: -- or the ground with dignity and respect. >> commissioner dejesus: an officer shall document in the incident report any time it is necessary to seat an individual on the ground involuntarily. >> commissioner hamasaki: any time it is necessary to seat -- say that again, petra. >> commissioner dejesus: okay. an officer shall document in the incident report any time it is necessary to seat an individual on the ground involuntarily. you guys don't have to go with this. i just was confused reading the last paragraph. >> commissioner hamasaki: i mean, i think that's cl

. >> commissioner dejesus: i appreciate that. it is on for discussion and possible action, so we can call the vote. >> commissioner hamasaki: are we done with public comment? >> clerk: no. >> commissioner hamasaki: oh . let's have public comment, please. >> clerk: good evening, caller. >> the public does not know what you guys are doing right now. i'm just telling you, the important who spoke before me clearly did. i'm not an attorney. i have no idea what you're voting on. there was -- you guys didn't talk about -- i don't know whether this happened behind closed doors, i don't know what happened over e-mail, and i don't know what you're talking about. there's a level of dysfunction that's on display. it's just disgusting. you really have to get it together. like, it's still clear that the breakdown between the board of supervisors and mayoral, like, appointee bullshit politics, it's just so dumb. like, there is real important work that you all should be doing, and it's on such full display. hamasaki is absolutely the worst when

commissioner dejesus? >> commissioner dejesus: so i -- i also have been talking to people about it. it's just terrible, and i actually have a family member that lives near the area near lasalle, and every time she turns around, there's a shooting. she stays in the back of her house. she doesn't want to go to the front of her house. so when you do your report, chief, i'd like to know how many shootings we have in the last 12 to 24 months in that area because it seems like it's a hot spot. and one of the things, you know, you'd just think that we'd have some more -- we'd have -- i don't know if coverage is the right word, but the activity that we have. if we could know how many shootings have occurred in that area so we can get an idea of how dangerous it is in that area with drive-bys. >> yes, ma'am, we'll do that analysis and bring it back to the commission. >> vice president taylor: thank you. commissioner brookter? >> commissioner brookter: yes, i think i definitely share the comments of my colleagues, c

commissioner dejesus. >> commissioner dejesus: yeah. i was trying to unmute and type at the same time. so when you say upload, what type of information will be available to the public? >> it will be the same documents that we release to a requester. let's say, commissioner, you made a public records request through the gov.qa portal, those responsive documents, when they're ready, the system informs you of that. there's also courtesy copies that are sent to a number of departments in the city, including the police commission. those same documents will then go into essentially a portal within gov.qa, and they will live there so that anyone who might otherwise not be making a particular request of me or just wants to see what the department has produced, they can go in through that portal to look at the documents. so everything that would be returned to the requester would go there. there is another feature that i've been informed about, and i think in terms of efficiency, it may prove to be very helpful, and that is that gov.qa team has

commissioner dejesus. >> commissioner dejesus: yeah. i was trying to unmute and type at the same time. so when you say upload, what type of information will be available to the public? >> it will be the same documents that we release to a requester. let's say, commissioner, you made a public records request through the gov.qa portal, those responsive documents, when they're ready, the system informs you of that. there's also courtesy copies that are sent to a number of departments in the city, including the police commission. those same documents will then go into essentially a portal within gov.qa, and they will live there so that anyone who might otherwise not be making a particular request of me or just wants to see what the department has produced, they can go in through that portal to look at the documents. so everything that would be returned to the requester would go there. there is another feature that i've been informed about, and i think in terms of efficiency, it may prove to be very helpful, and that is that gov.qa team has

commissioner dejesus. >> commissioner dejesus: yeah. i was trying to unmute and type at the same time. so when you say upload, what type of information will be available to the public? >> it will be the same documents that we release to a requester. let's say, commissioner, you made a public records request through the gov.qa portal, those responsive documents, when they're ready, the system informs you of that. there's also courtesy copies that are sent to a number of departments in the city, including the police commission. those same documents will then go into essentially a portal within gov.qa, and they will live there so that anyone who might otherwise not be making a particular request of me or just wants to see what the department has produced, they can go in through that portal to look at the documents. so everything that would be returned to the requester would go there. there is another feature that i've been informed about, and i think in terms of efficiency, it may prove to be very helpful, and that is that gov.qa team has

commissioner dejesus? >> commissioner dejesus: so i -- i also have been talking to people about it. it's just terrible, and i actually have a family member that lives near the area near lasalle, and every time she turns around, there's a shooting. she stays in the back of her house. she doesn't want to go to the front of her house. so when you do your report, chief, i'd like to know how many shootings we have in the last 12 to 24 months in that area because it seems like it's a hot spot. and one of the things, you know, you'd just think that we'd have some more -- we'd have -- i don't know if coverage is the right word, but the activity that we have. if we could know how many shootings have occurred in that area so we can get an idea of how dangerous it is in that area with drive-bys. >> yes, ma'am, we'll do that analysis and bring it back to the commission. >> vice president taylor: thank you. commissioner brookter? >> commissioner brookter: yes, i think i definitely share the comments of my colleagues, c

so commissioner dejesus, are you changing your vote? >> commissioner dejesus: yes. >> clerk: well, we need a motion and a second. >> vice president taylor: another motion? >> clerk: for line item 6. >> i'm going to renew my motion with respect to line item 6 -- is it. >> vice president taylor: yeah, it's 6. >> clerk: okay. so do you renew your motion on-line item 6 to go into closed session? >> commissioner elias: yes. >> vice president taylor: second. >> clerk: so on the motion to go into closed session on-line item number 7, -- [roll call] >> clerk: you have four yeses, and the motion passes. all right. so we are now going to go into closed session. commissioner dejesus, i'm not able to bring you into closed session with me from the phone call. are you able to go back to your desk and try your microphone again once we're in closed session? >> commissioner dejesus: okay. >> clerk: thank you. >> clerk: vote to elect to disclose any or all items discussed in closed session. >> commissioner elias: i'll make a motion, and this is a motion

on july 1st, there was a clerical error this the last sentence of that bulletin and commissioner dejesus neglected to include the words prone and it should have read an officer shall document in an incident report any time it is necessary to seat or prone an individual on the ground involuntarily. so that change has been made and i direct that the written directive's unit to include the content of both bulletins. commissioner elias, i think you wanted to say something, as well. >> i wanted to clarify when the initial bulletin regarding 5.01, we made a motion with the respect to meet and confer and instructing the chief not to -- that the department bulletin was not subject to meet and confer. i am at this point going to ask to make a motion to revise that previous motion be made, as well as include the current 5.01 db passed today and it's my understanding because of commissioner taylor's directive, that both the department bulletin for 5.01 before the commission prior and this one will be combined into one and i'm making a motion that all revisions made to 5.01, that the chief be direct