john, delia?-- >> we can hear you now. >> okay. >> we're just listening to the -- i can hear you now, earl, yes. and we're just listening to the beginning of the gospel, which is being sung in latin and greek. it's from the gospel of john. it has to do with the doubting thomas, when jesus appears to his apostles and one of them, thomas, doesn't believe it's him. and he says put your hand in my wounds. and this goes back to that theme of mercy and of miracles. john? >> and also having to do -- we were talking earlier about the relics and the importance of physical contact. the story of thomas is one who wanted physical contact. >> yes. >> in this case with christ to make sure this was really him. and i think it does say something about the need -- even though faith in some ways is a spiritual and atheerl notion, there is something in the catholic mind that once that physical, tangible reality and connection to really bring it home. >> yeah, and i think that was also part of john paul ii's attractio

let's bring in delia gallagher and john allen again. and if you will, talk about the legacy of both these popes once again. and john paul ii, we mentioned that he has a complicated legacy, but he's also remembered for his role in helping bring down communism in eastern europe, delia. >> yeah, he had an enormous impact in the world of his times and his role in the coming down of the iron curtain is probably exhibit "a." we'll remember that in 1979, he made his first homecoming to poland. [ speaking foreign language ] >> we'll just listen in now as pope francis provides the homily of mass during this canonization ceremony. >> translator: and thomas was present. jesus turned to him and told him to touch his wounds. whereupon that man, so straightforward and accustomed to testing everything personally. my order, my god. the wounds of jesus are a scandal, a stumbling block for faith. yet, they're also the test of faith. that's why on the body of the risen christ, the wounds never pass away. they remain, for those wounds are the enduring sign

>> so, father beck, i just heard what delia said.peculation that pope francis is at least thinking about easing restrictions on divorced catholics. >> well, we know, in fact, that he is, carol, because he has already charged his group of cardinal consulters, they'll be meeting again in october, and he has put this on the agenda for them. he wants to talk about divorce and remarried catholics and communion. now, this is a consultative pope, so we suspect that he's going to know what those cardinals have to say, but we get a real sense that he thinks something needs to be done here. that there are too many wounded people out there without annulments who are in marriages where divorce has been involved who have been felt deprived of the eucharist, of communion. and he wants to address that in a pastoral way. if annulment is not possible, for whatever reason was not sought, is there a way that that person can still be part of the communion of the church and receive holy communion? >> and delia, just as a matter of practicality, what, 50%

d delia gallagher is outside of vatican city.ense of what it's like there now. >> christi and victor, i can tell you, it has been an amazing morning. as you said it's a first. we've seen pope francis do lots of firsts about ever but this is the first time we've had two saints. john paul ii already had a great following and it probably would have drawn a large crowd but put it together with john xxiii who was beloved by italians and well respected in the catholic church and you have what you see behind me, a huge crowd upwards of 1 million people who slept overnight out on the street with their sleeping bags to wait for the moment that we saw this morning, when pope francis officially declared john xxiii and john paul ii saints of the catholic church. >> beyond the canonization of the two popes, there's this moment where the two living popes are participating in this ceremony at the same time. how did pope ben digt, pope emeritus benedict look, his health, how is he? >> well, victor, he's 87 years old. he resigned last year for re

delia gallagher, cnn, rome. >> thank you, delia.arl bernstein is a political commentator and journalist and author of "his holiness, john paul ii and the history of our time." thank you for joining me, carl. >> good to be here. >> not everyone was happy that john paul ii was canonized. some feel he didn't do enough to address the catholic scandal over the years. why do you think the vatican, pope francis, decided to do this in this manner. >> two things. i'm told that people talked to the pope about these matters. he sees the church as accommodating these two great figures. john xxiii and pope john paul ii who represent different aspects of the church. pope john ii put the church into the modern world, help defeat communism as perhaps no other individual did, was responsible because of poland and what he did there for cracking the wall and in the soviet system and, you know, the pope wants this recognized, it had already been set in motion by benedict and doing the two together demonstrates a kind of unity that he wants to show the

how many are expected to be packed in there at the vatican, delia? >> reporter: today there are about 100,000 filling the square there and going back down the main street leading to st. peter's basilica. of course, natalie, remember, there are also a lot of people who've come to rome for next week's celebration which is the canonization of two popes, john paul ii and john xxiii. crowds are expected to get even larger in the coming week. upwards of a million, they're saying, for next sunday's canonizations. >> we thank you. live from rome. delia gallagher for us here on what looks to be a beautiful easter sunday there at the vatican. let's check in with samantha mohr. at first it didn't look, is a mab that, like things were going to turn out. everyone wants a sunny easter sunday. but they got one. >> it's gorgeous now. but yes, about 24 hours ago we actually had a tornado sighted northwest of rome. about 74 kilometers northwest of rome. and you can see that band of rain here on the satellite picture as it moved through here. actually caused some damag

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>> and delia, we know this pope is certainly a bit unpredictable.f script as well. anything out of the ordinary today? >> reporter: today, randi, was fairly scripted. it's a formal easter mass and also the culmination of quite a long week for this pope. so he did follow the script today, also because he had to keep within certain time limits but we're all anticipating the connonization of two popes. he wanted to put in onxxiii so he fast tracked him without the second miracle and said let's make him a saint as well. so that's the next big event, next sunday, anticipating upwards of 1 million people coming to rome to are that. >> very important week there in vatican city. delia gallagher, thank you very much. >>> another day, another dive for the underwater vehicle looking for any sign of malaysia airlines flight 370. look at how much ground it's covered so far and what's next if the bluefin 21 continues to come up empty. ♪ [ banker ] sydney needed some financial guidance so she could take her dream to the next level. so we talked about her options.

delia gallagher is covering holy week for us and has more now from outside the vatican. >> reporter: over 100,000 people joined pope francis this morning in st. peter's square for easter mass. this is the culmination of a week of activities leading up to today. and the people received a special blessing and message from the pope, to the city and to the world. which the pope gives from the central balcony looking out over the square and his message today was go out and be with the needy. he said leave yourselves behind and go with people who are crushed by life's difficulties. this is something we have seen the pope himself do. on thursday he went to a home where there are disabled people and he washed and kissed their feet. on friday, while he was at the coliseum for the stations of the cross, he instructed a priest to go hand out money to the homeless at the train stations around roep. so this is the pope's message for easter. in addition, of course, he prayed for peace in countries of conflict around the world. in particular, he mentioned syria, the ukraine, mentioned venezuela. he

delia gallagher joins us in rome where a million of the faithful are joining us for the event.s like people are going to camp out all night tonight to make sure they get a good spot for early in the morning. >> they are incredibly fredericka because it just rained a little bit earlier. they are here and they have staked out their place on the street. they've got sleeping bags. they've got chairs. they are young and old. and they are from all over the world. we see flags from the united states, from france, from brazil, from albania. biggest contingency by far is from poland. they've all got the names of their towns on their shirts and jackets. there's a group that has run from poland to come to this event here. they've just arrived. so there were big celebrations in the crowds for those marathoners. frederic fredericka? >> oh, my gosh. two popes with two very different styles to be canonized. was this intentional by pope franc francis? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, he is a big fan of john xxiii. john paul ii was pretty much scheduled to be canonized and pope francis wanted to add

. >> delia gallagher there in rome. thank you very much.ll see you this time tomorrow and reminder to viewers with live coverage of this canonization ceremony as john paul ii and xxii start to sainthood. all of it right here on cnn. >>> so many young lives lost in the south korean ferry disaster. the impact on that country has been profound. we'll take a closer look at that next. [ male announcer ] every day, your mouth is building up layer upon layer of bacteria, so destroy these layers with listerine®. its unique formula penetrates these layers deeper than any other mouthwash. for a cleaner, healthier mouth, #1 dentist recommended listerine®. power to your mouth™. >>> you're in the cnn news room. a warm welcome to viewers in the u.s. and around the world. here are the top stories on cnn. we begin with live pictures out of kuala lumpur malaysia as u.s. president barack obama arrives there on the third stop of his asia tour. we're waiting for the u.s. president to arrive at this welcoming ceremony. air force one arrived about 30 minutes ago

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cnn vatican correspondent delia gallagher joins us live from rome.face, this looks like a seismic shift in the catholic church doctrine. how big a deal is it? >> reporter: well, i would say it's definitely significant. it's not yet a change in church doctrine, but it is a topic which is hotly debated at the moment at the vatican, because pope francis wants it to be addressed. he said last year, on the question, it's time for mercy for divorced and remarried catholics with regard to receiving communion. we know generally the direction that the pope wants the conversation to go. but he has set his cardinals and bishops to work to find out how they could go about doing that, because, as you say, it's been against church law for centuries. that's the question that the vatican has yet to figure out how to allow, if they are indeed going to allow, this to happen, and yet the pope seems to have at least given the perception that in some cases he's giving the okay for it. >> the church was supposed to hash this out in october, i believe. i know he's infallib

we talked about delia gallagher senior editor for inside the vatican magazine. >> there's great anticipation when you walk around and excitement what's going to happen at this mass. >> rose: what's the significance? >> well, i think there are a number of significant things about it. but i think it boils down to the fact that these two hopes are loved by the people. they are the original people's popes. pope john xxiii before pope john paul ii and pope francis was the one who came after a pope pius the 12th who was regal and academic and aristocratic and john xxiii was short stout called the peasant pope and people say what's he going to do. >> rose: and then called the good pope. >> then called the good pope. and why? because he came out and could talk to the people and he came out and he was the one who went to the hospitals and visit sick children. he was the one who went first to prisons and visited prisoners. so the thing that we see pope francis doing today he started. >> rose: there's a touch of pope john xxiii and pope francis. >> he loves him. it was said after cardinal was to be a r

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let's bring in delia gallagher, cnn's vatican correspondent. let's deal with the first part. accurate? >> reporter: well, chris, we know the vatican is confirming that a call was made. they will not discuss the details of the conversation which they say are private. so the report we have only from the woman who says that the pope said she was absolved of her sins and could, indeed, receive communion. >> the clever indication to me is that the vatican also said you cannot interpret anything that happened on the call as a comment about church teaching which to me is a suggestion that he may well have said it because the vatican doesn't like these type of departures. tell us about what the rule is. if you are divorced or married to someone who has been divorced as opposed to annulled which is the catholic equivalent, what is the rule? >> reporter: the rule is if you are divorced, you can receive communion. if you are remarried, you cannot. if you're remarried, that relationship is considered adult rouse. it's based on various passages in the bible and on centuries of church teac

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