with me this time on the program, delores huerda.hen you were negotiating at a time first ever farm worker contracts with some of the biggest agricultural operations in california, did they take you seriously? these were not men who used to -- who are utilities to dealing across the table seriously with women. >> i think it caught them unaware you see and it was difficult often for them. and it was interesting because i found out that the best way to get a good contract is to point out the i hope justices that were happening in the field. sometimes, they were kind of unaware of it because they didn't know what their foremen were doing. when you think of this mentality that you want to hugh military ate people and you want to oppress them and not providing the basic human needs that they have is just a way to make people feel like they are not worthy action like they don't have value. isn't it sad to think it took almost 20 years to get that simple law passed. you know, by pointing this out to the employers and making them realize tha