. >> last year, i was interviewing delores juerta for something i was writing. said, isn't that over when she was talking about the spirit of the times when she and cesar chavez were working to create the united farm workers union and she was insulted by the suggestion. she said, oh, no. absolutely not it's every bit the same today as it was then. is it? >> sure, it is. the president of the united states is going to give a state of the union address tonight. most people expect he will talk about a rapidly widening income inequality gap. the fact of the matter is that we revisit many of the fundamental questions again and again and again. and that was something that pete seeger understood very, very well. a long life, life in which at times you are prominent. he topped the popular music charts in the early 1950s and went to being pushed away from any sort of prominent entertainment spot in the late '50s. when you have had these experiences, you get a calmness about it. you get to recognize it is a long, good fight. and this is an important thing to understand. yo