first up, demaurice smith. as owners continue to lock out players, the players are making this case for a more equitable revenue split with the team owners. cornel conversation with west on how progressives perceive the obama white house. a conversation with demaurice smith and cornel west coming up next. >> all i know is his name is james, and he needs extra help with his reading. >> i'm james. >> yes. >> to everyone making a difference -- >> thank you. >> you help us all live better. >> nationwide insurance supports tavis smiley. with every question and answer, nationwide insurance is happy to help tavis improve financial literacy and remove obstacles to economic empowerment one conversation at a time. nationwide is on your side. >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] tavis: demaurice smith is the head of the nfl players association. he is a former criminal prosecutor who worked with eric holder. good to have you on th

and then demaurice smith will be here on may 27th. gary sinise late in june, he will announce the formation of a new foundation dedicated to raising funds for charities supporting the military. and, of course, as is our tradition -- if i can find it -- i'd like to present you with our traditional npc mug as a token of our thanks today. thank you. [applause] and i would like to, now, ask the last question. and we're talking about football. you're a native of pennsylvania, football country. a lot of great quarterbacks from there. huge steelers fan, i'm told. these days that doesn't take a lot of investment, but you're hang anything there. you come by that naturally, so here's the last question. given that you're a leader in the political arena, so to speak, if you had to choose, would you rather have lunch with the manning brothers -- not steelers' players -- or the koch brothers? [laughter] >> first of all, it would depend on where the lunch was going to be. [laughter] i personally would probably have, rather have lunch with the mannin