tvardovsky's peugeot, anti-colleagues of the new world , i write about unworthy people and dementiev lakshin vinogradov and and and. here i myself, who are obliged to very, very many writers, of course, of that and historical time in a wide range. he is a solzhenitsyn to a voynovich. well, here we are immersed now at the end of our conversation in the era. uh, dominance, literature of centrism, yes, the era of the height of literature of centrism, but when every literary opinion, every literary gesture sometimes resonates delight yes sometimes unfortunately repression, and acts of no freedom. and uh, i think that hmm this pathos is a very good conclusion to today's conversation, because life continues to come out. you keep working. we are looking forward to ah new books, and it is my pleasure. thank you for today's conversation. eh, all the best. we 'll see you again. goodbye sergey ivanovich thank you. you watched the next issue of the literary podcast, which is called let them not talk, let them read, and i, dmitry bak, tell you, as always, with pathos and energy read with pleasure. hello with you, t