well, only a novelist could write passage from john demjanjuk point of view. i mean, to talk about how much i mean, that passage where he talks about how much he loves killing -- and goes on and on and on, does not appear any reportorial journalistic that i know. so, you know, as we're gonna read well one thing the plot against america shows is that historical documents often need to be improved on because he clearly looked at lindbergh's diaries they were there as boring as lindbergh. so you know, he couldn't sort stick with that material for very long. philip roth was just one of these writers with an exquisite ear. he really could just get it or get something or hear something. and so i was struck in these late, this kind of the rhetorical fire and force, these sort of ideas that come from these people bursting open and. he doesn't, after a point, bother to try to give each a voice, you know, like a kind of ventriloquist instead it's just the the passion of feeling and the eloquence of this what i think and yet they can go on four pages and you're rather ri