is this even a good deal for democrats? should democrats accept this deal?d they compromise right now? >> i think a lot of democrats are saying, hey, we just won the election. why is the president the one who is moving? and it is striking, if you look at the polling, it's extremely favorable to the president. i mean, the disapproval of how republicans are handling this situation right now is off the charts, and the support for raising taxes on wealthy americans is off the charts. there is a kind of -- there's like a plurality of a solution here. it's a mix of cutting spending. people want to cut spending and raising taxes, but crucially it doesn't say what the mix should be. when you ask them about specific categories of spending, they say no, don't cut defense, don't cut social security, don't cut medicare. it's tough to figure out what the public wants. in general obama has the upper hand. i can understand why the left might be growing increasingly frustrated. we're talking about what boehner can sell to his caucus. i do think liberals hated that medicare

the election ends three years in power for the democrats. the dpj had 230 seats coming into the vote. they held on to just 57. the restoration party won just 54 seats. they want to earn an alternative to the established parties. they are anxious to get back to the role they've held almost continuously since the 1950s. they talk about the ldp's policy plans and what this victory means. >> translator: it's not that voters are coming back to put their 100% trust in the ldp, but rather, it's their answer to the three-year-long political confusion brought about by the democrats. so the big question here is whether we in the ldp can meet the high expectations of the voters. we have to deliver the goods one by one. we will form a coalition with the new komeito party. that's something we've already decided. the two parties will soon coordinate their policies. we'd also like to add for other parties' cooperation in case our policies on a particular subject basically match. on the national security issue, the first thing we have to do is rebuild the j

democratic governors won eight of the 11. there were lots of stories how democrats are going to lose those races. we won to races that the press did not expect us to win. we won in new mexico with maggie hassan. we won in montana with steve bullock. he was a real leader, a real job creator, he is going to do great things in montana. we won in washington state with jay insl e! news who has been focused on economic development. we won there in a tight race. we come into this with a temperaturic organization that is well organized and can win even when we have have less friends than our other side. having said that, in 2014, we're looking a huge number of races. there are 34 races. so 2014 is going to be a huge year. . we have an exintruder candidate. he started his own business when he was 14 years old. now running against a right-wing tea party candidate attorney general there who literally said when asked do you align yourself with the tea party, he said i don't just align myself with the tea party i am a tea party groupie. i

charlie crist is not a democrat. do you welcome him to the democratic party? is this setting the stage as a potential run as governor as a democrat nunn could 2014. >> he was hugely helpful in electing president obama. it is a great victory for us. he is an incredibly capable victor. we do not take sides before we know that we have one single candidate. everyone knows he was a great governor. he led florida with precision. if he is a candidate, we would welcome him. >> is he interested in running? >> i am glad to let him speak for himself. one of my jobs is a chair is to work together to recruit the best candidates that we can. he is high on the list. we will be having conversations with him. >> had had any? >> we are not eliminating any other candidates. >> patty had any conversations leading up to him over the weekend? -- have you had any conversations leading up to him over the weekend? >> florida is led by a tea party governor that is so focused on the white wing agenda he is the not succeed in -- right-wing agenda that he has not succeeded in jobs. they a

as we reported at the beginning of the hour, democrats feel that one of the things that democrats are offering is a nonstarter from his perspective. is that an offer to change the way technically social security recipients get their money or effectively would make social security checks for every recipient lower each month. that is something that the president offered as part of larger negotiations for a big grand bargain or part of a bigger deal. but democrats say that's not in the cards right now for this smaller deal so it is not a good sign at all. >> what's going do happen next is that in about 45 minutes, in the floor underneath me. the republicans and the senate are going to get together. the democrats in the senate are going to get together. they're going to talk. and each of the parties' rank and file will get more information about where the parties stand in the talks and i think we'll get a better sense of if they're going to keep talking throughout the afternoon or go to the fallback plan that i talked about and as jessica mentioned, the fallback plan might mean no plan at

the democrats were caught unaware and very surprised. you had that very tough debate on health care. you have the vacancy and democrats say you won't have all the situations at the end. they might be able to beat scott brown in a special contest. >> always tough. you think they can pull it off. lastly it was about chuck hegel, feeling it from the left and the right. the defense built up and every time he takes a twitter, he seems to take out chuck hegel. it was a process by which the president gets leaked out. >> two problems that are besetting chuck hegel. he is not the official nominee. there is not an official campaign structure to defend chuck hegel. he is taking it from all sides and twisting it in the left and the right and all people taking shots at him. the second problem is he's a man without a party. you end up hearing republicans who are not too fond of the fact that he supported barack obama in the presidential contest. chuck schumer on "meet the press" was noncommittal. he is a man without a structure and a man without a par

>> democrat versus democrat and republican versus republican? >> if i understand you right, there was a kind of bipartisan commission that redesigned the redistricting. i actually did a story for the "atlantic monthly" on redistricting and it mentions this thing. the belief by many politicians is that there is no such thing as a bipartisan or nonpartisan board and points to the california commission is a failed experiment because the democrats have managed the influence of tame but probe publica would suggest tends to influence a lot of these commissions. having said that there are a number of other states in the u.s. but do have bipartisan redistricting and just for what it's worth the reason why it's a failing topic is i'm often asked, if this is the worst congress ever or now but we wish congress would need, what would be the solution? there aren't many of them a come to mind. the redistricting reform would certainly be one of them because what happens is, when we create these districts that are so rigidly read or so rigidly blue then we send

democrats say this is simply a ruse, mitch mcconnell trying to go around harry reid, the democratic leader here and appealing to joe biden, trying to make it look in democratic estimation as if republicans are going the last mile, but, look, we're stuck. we're nowhere at this point. there was a major setback earlier. you mentioned it, the so-called chained cpi. a lot of people tweeted me and said what the heck is that? simply a revised way of adjusting cost of living increases to social security recipients that would in effect lower the growth of those payments, lower the rate of inflation, lower the cost of living increase most times. republicans have evidently put that on the table. that was what really got these negotiations to a standstill. they emerged from their lunch, did republicans, just a few minutes ago, and it's clear it's now off the table. it's a dead letter. unclear whether that's going to help move these along in any way, shape or form. harry reid, before his closed door luncheon, said he was still cautiously optimistic. hard to see from our perspective why he would say thi

and the liberal democrats. earlier i spoke with a professor who teaches political science at a university. what's behind the democratic party's crushing defeat? >> the last three years the political party, the dpj, has been so bad. so many japanese voters are disappointed in the dpj and therefore they reduce the number of seats down to the quarter, or what it used to have. >> this is a stunning comeback for the liberal democrats. how do you explain their landslide victory? >> i don't believe japanese voters gave their full trust in the ldp yet, and even the leader of the ldp, mr. abe mentions that. however, many voters of the japanese had a hard time to choose a party to vote for and the ldp had a plan to move this country. they had no other choice but the ldp to vote for, i guess. >> liberal democrats held power almost continuously for more than 50 years. what priorities will leader shinzo abe push forward in this administration? >> mr. abe has to push two things, one is social security process coupled with th

we can get all the democrats to sign it. 26 republicans to sign it, and if we can get 26 republicans. >> what is the likelihood of that? >> as you've heard, a growing number of house republicans like tom cole of oklahoma have said na it makes sense to proceed with what we can already agree on. if they agree to extend middle class tax cuts, here's their opportunity. i think you're going to see growing pressure. i'm sure the spoker of the house will tell his members not to sign athat petition. it will provide a very clear signal as to whether or not people really support an extension of the middle class tax cut. that's how to get it done now. >> you referred to congressman cole, who was on the sunday morning programs. he was one of the first vocal republicans in the house to say there needs to be a resolve here. he also pointed the finger at the president if you will regarding leadership with entitlements reforms. we know secretary geithner said that that the gop needs to make a move regarding a proposal with entitlements, and

or a democratic controlled congress, there is some friction built in, whether it's a democrat, a democratic republican or a republican. mostly privately they said he didn't listen to us and care about the house. never searched in the house. how open are the liens of communication on the fiscal cliff between house democrats, yourself, leader pelosi, and the white house, whether it's president obama or vice president biden or senior level staff that you feel as though what you guys want and need politically and from a policy perspective is being listened to? >> i can tell you it's absolutely no doubt that the president is listening to us. i think we have better communication than we had last time. i think those communications are very good. of course, there are many of us that disagree on the chain cpi, that is the cost of living with regard to social security. the president talked in his talk on another show yesterday about being open to that. well, there are a lot of us that are gents that because we realize that many of our constituents who have -- who are on social security all they have

as democrats. also, in pennsylvania, where republicans took total control of that state in 2010 in time to draw up the new maps, well, pennsylvania picked barack obama for president again this time, and again picked him by a lot. and more voters in pennsylvania wanted a democrat for their congress person. but pennsylvania will send 13 republicans to congress next month and only five democrats. how about ohio where republicans won the governorship and both chambers of the state legislature in 2010. hey, it was big year for republicans in 2010, right? this time around ohio quite memorably voted for president obama. that made karl rove crazy. ohio went for obama. even so, there were more votes for republicans in ohio congress there -- in congress there. narrowly speaking, republicans had the edge in congressional votes from ohio voters, narrowly speaking. but look what they're sending to congress. look at that. not narrowly speaking. three times as many. ohio is going to send 12 republicans to congres

it takes a democratic senate, a democrat president to cooperate.kes sense to save the maximum of taxpayers. that's not a tax increase, that's making perm what are temporary tax cuts for the overwhelming majority of americans. >> if there isn't a deal on fiscal cliff or if it's narrow, if it covers the bare minimum and there's a lot of issues still to be worked out, there's been a lot of disagreement about what that means in the short term, just say through january or february. do you think it would be catastrophic? do you think that there -- >> it's not -- >> it's been overstated? >> it's not catastrophic. but i think the failure to reach a larger deal will be something democrats look back and regret. once the revenue issue's taken care of -- and it will be taken care of quickly -- we're on to the real issues where we have leverage and they don't, that's spending and entitlement issues. there's a sequester itself, which we ought to avoid but they have to avoid to cuts to do that there's continuing resolution, ability of government to spend money, r

the presidency and the senate's in the democrats' hands. i think it has merit, you give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%. and all of a sudden the shift goes back to entitlements. all of a sudden once you give him the rate on the top 2% it's actually lesser tax increases than what he's been talking about. the focus then shifts to entitlements and puts us in a place where we can do something that really saves this nation. so there's a growing body. i'm beginning to believe that's the best route to take to shift the focus where it needs to be, which is on entitlements. still, chris, the top 1% in our country taking 17% of the income and paying 37% of the taxes that are paid i hope will take a fax reform in a way that creates growth in our nation at some point. at this juncture we may be where senator schumer says. >> all right. senator schumer, you just heard senator corker say i would consider and maybe i'll go for raising the rates up to the clinton rate, 39.6% for the top 2%. but we need

harrison honor democrat -- harrison on our democrat line. please go ahead.hank you for taking my call. i think the government is so corrupt. there is some much fraud going on, like the medicare program. the doctors and the insurance company -- they need some cleanup people to check the fraud that is going on. i watched "american greed" on tv. the skin doctor was cutting elderly people on medicare. so many doctors when that first was passed when lyndon johnson passed that into law. it was mismanaged. doctors did not want it at first. i and 85 years old and i have paid taxes since i have been 15 . i paid into the -- host: social security, medicare. caller: all through my life. host: we appreciate you watching and calling and. any comment for that caller? guest: this is a time when people in congress are talking more seriously about reducing the deficit and getting rid of fraud. the caller was talking about -- whether they can follow through on that goal is a question. i would advise the caller to keep paying attention and see what is something he likes comes o

democrats are predicting a warning of blood in the streets. here is what the governor said moments ago about why he supported the legislation. >> for two strong reasons. first of all, worker choice. the freedom to choose. and the concept of more and better jobs for our state. i think it was a good thing to sign the legislation and move forward. >> bret: this makes michigan the 24th right to work state in the u.s. let's get an update now from the michigan capital. correspondent mike tobin is live in lansing. good evening. >> good evening, bret. what you can't see tonight in darkness is a column of state troopers surrounding the for's office building. they are armed with baton and wearing riot gear. from behind that column of protection, governor snyder made his announcement that michigan is now a right to work state. >> you put your hands on me, see what happens. >> as the demonstrations get raucous in lansing, tent for the group americans for prosperity is knocked down. >> they rushed the tent. chanting "go home, go home, scabs, scabs, scabs."

. >> tonight, democratic whip steny hoyer gives me the latest fiscal cliff developments and the democratic line on medicare. tom perriello from the center of american progress action fund on how democrats can deal with republicans who can't deal with reality. rubio and ryan reload with a new message for the middle class. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. >> but there is no escaping their own policies. >> we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. >> dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz responds tonight. plus, senator barbara boxer on her new plan for national polling place standards. and a new poll shows half of all republicans think the defunct group a.c.o.r.n. stole the election from president obama. >> that's an eye opener. >> i wonder where they ever got that idea? >> you just have to wait and see what happens. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. here is are the latest. republicans are at a stalemate with the white house for debt negotiations. republicans really only have two options now, bad and wo

that's where the democrats are. i understand the democrats' predicament. right after the election it appeared the door was open, the president seemed willing to address tax revenue in a responsible manner, a manner respectful of the legitimate concerns of the house majority and the 62.6 million individuals who did not vote for him. but within a week he was read the riot act by the unions and the aarp who will resist any meaningful changes to the entitlement spending programs that are now bankrupting our country. later this week i will outline a series of entitlement spending changes that could and should be supported on a bipartisan basis. the president told the american people that he wants a balanced approach. my hope is that the president comes forward on his own, with his own details on how he would fix the entitlement spending programs. and i mean real details on real proposals with real teeth. not the window dressing in the president's budget that even the democrats reject and have rejected in the past. the president has demanded a balanced approach.

so how is this going to affect democratic party fund-raising and democratic party membership? >> well, i don't think it will hurt us on membership. actually governor, i'm expecting a backlash as a result of this. so many people in the state who voted for snyder, who thought he was a moderate. they've been convinced he's betrayed them and lied to them. there will be a political backlash which we can take advantage of. that being said, it will hurt union's ability to raise money which can be spent not just by the democratic party but on political candidates. that's the intent of this and that will be the short term and long-term impact of it if we allow it to stand. >> jennifer: the republicans say, of course, as you've heard this is an opportunity for the unions. and it is true that every group needs to evolve with the times and since labor is now such a shrinking percentage of the work force, not just in michigan but across the country because of laws like this, how would you recommend that organized labor upgrade its message to be able to counter the forces and the money on t

democratic caller. caller: the other day they had represented the brown on and a tape of him as saying the world is only 9000 years old going off the literal translation. people like that generally lack the ability to look at complex issues and try to simplify it. had the same time -- at the same time, the one to seem like they are preaching to us about the bible and abortion are the ones who seemingly lack the ability to live the way christ told them they are supposed to live. they gave to the rich. they let the thursday turn to dust and the sick by. host: here are some more pew research numbers. differing views on the impact of religion's influence on society. is religion increasing or losing its influence on american life? is it a good thing or bad thing? 25% said religion is increasing its influence while 66% said it is losing its influence. of those numbers, 49% said it was a bad thing, 12% said it was a good thing. views of religious institutions. this is the percentage of people will agree that c

democrats continued to run washington. what the president has proposed so far simply will not do anything to solve our spending problems. he wants more spending and more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. and he simply will not deal honestly with entitlement reform and the big issues facing our country. we need significant spending cuts and real tax reform to address our long-term debt problem and pave the way for long-term growth and real growth in jobs in our country. we will continue to work with colleagues in the house and senate on a plan that protect families and small businesses from the fiscal cliff. >> i think we saw last night yet again the next chapter in this saga of trying to resolve the situation of the fiscal cliff. it is clear that our conference has been consistent in its commitment to do something about the spending problem in washington and the mounting debt that has resulted. we stand ready to continue in dialog with this president to actually fix the problem. i hope that we see that our colleagues o

to embarrass the democrats. he wanted to prove that the democrats didn't have the votes for the legislation. harry reid called his bluff and objected to putting the bill up for a vote, but after discussing it with his democratic members he got the support he needed and had a change of heart. claire mccaskill was priding when mcconnell objected to voting on the bill. >> is there an objection to the original request? >> objection is heard. i got whiplash. >> very strange. >> dick durbin reacted to mcconnell's move moments later. >> so this may be a moment in senate history when a senator made a proposal and when given an opportunity for a vote, filibustered his own proposal. i think we have now reached a new spot in the history of the senate we have never seen before. >> let's turn to bernie sanders. i'm laughing at it too, senator. this just goes to show either winging it big time. they don't have a plan other than to get in the way. what's your response to what unfolded on the floor and what we can look forward

we've said we're going to work to get that passed. >> will you get a majority of democrats, house democrats to support whatever president obama agrees to? >> well, i don't want to say whatever president obama agrees to. but my presumption is, i think leader pelosi's presumption is the same that the president will not get to a deal that is not acceptable to a majority of us on the democratic side in the house. it won't be the deal that we would like perhaps. it won't have everything. it will have some things in there we won't like. and it will have some things in there the republicans won't like. but if we're going to be a functional congress, if we're going to serve the american people well, we're going to have to come to grips with compromises to get to where we need to be. and it's clear that speaker boehner, at this point in time, does not have the votes in his conference to do that. and that's a shame. i call it a plan f. this is today. this is failure. >> okay. very quickly, to -- >> it's a shame for the american people. >> very quickly on guns. >> yes. >> do you think an assault weapo

this is the democrat we like.other thing that dragged her down on the democratic side was the iraq war and i think largely that's forgotten now. i think her two big liabilities on the democratic side are gone and i think what u8d see is what you saw with al gore in 2000 where all these other prospective candidates look and say this isn't the time to run. >> you're not mentioning the third prong of the tripod which is her performance as secretary of state. >> absolutely. >> what do you mean absolutely? you didn't even mention it. >> i'm just thinking of how formidable she would have been without those two factors. even if she was still a senator today, without those two factors, she'd be an overwhelming front-runner. throw that in and it's even more. >> the secretary of state has proved to be an outstanding advocate for women throughout her tenure. is this not the perfect opportunity for her to prove that the glass ceiling can indeed be shattered as far as the highest office in the land is concerned? >> well, i wou

the democrats, all senate democrats are meeting now, getting a briefing from the senate democratic leaderharry reid and down this haul, which you can't see from here, the same thing is going on with republicans. at the podium we hope to hear from senate majority leader, harry reid. in terms of where things stand, they're frozens it goes. earlier today, we explained that the reason from the democrats point of view is that they got an offer from republicans that includes what was known as chained cpi, which you've been explaining means social security checks would be smaller for social security recipients, which is something that is a nonstarter for democrats in this particular negotiation. it is something that the president offered as part of a larger deal. there are other things that are not together on like tax rates and other big issues. but that is one major snag as far as democrats are concerned and that's why the senate majority leader on the senate floor a little while ago said he won't give republicans a counteroffer because that's off the table. we'll see what happens in these tal

why do the democrats want to th this?the theory was that you could let them hang themselves, then they would have already hung themselves many times over. the fact of the matter is the filibuster is not front-page news. it's not something that people generally pay attention to it. it's a procedure within the senate, and the republicans have abused it now ever since democrats took control of the senate. the concern here is not to get rid of the filibuster. that's the important thing to understand. what har ray reid and especially younger senators, people like jeff merkley from oregon, are proposing to restore the filibust filibuster. it's a very simple proposal. they it want to bring back the filibuster as it existed in "mr. smith goes to washington." they want it it to be like jimmy stewart where they had to go to the floor and stand on your principles. now, unfortunately, the filibuster is usually used secretly behind closed doors to stop debate to prevent us from even having a vote. that has nothing to do with what amer

sequestration was a democratic deal. deal with it. guest: i would call that a deal between the republican congress and president. the whole point of sequestration, if we remember, was not to have to take effect. the point was to have such a bad outcome that the super committee that was created in the august 2011 debt ceiling deal be so afraid of the sequestration that they would reach a bipartisan compromise that would reduce deficits by the same amount that sequestration was expected to, but in a much more balanced and sensible way. democrats and republicans were unable to reach an agreement and that is why you have this sequestration. sequestration was never intended to be policy. it was intended to be so bad and foolish than democrats and republicans would be forced to agree to something. obviously, that calculation perhaps mistook the level of disagreement there was between republicans and democrats on this issue. host: stan collender and joshua gordon. democrats line, good morning. caller: good morning and merry christmas. i do n

so it was unfair for the democratic candidate. the other thing that signals the latino vote did make a difference was how arpaio changed his campaign ads. in the past he talked.how he was tough on the border, tough on immigration. hi added shifted tone, what political scientists refer to as rather than issue oriented it became warm, fuzzy biographical ads. they featured him with his wife, who we have never seen before really, talking about his 50 years in law enforcement, how he is a grandmother, -- grandfather, cares about children. who doesn't care about children. so very much shifted the tone. i think the recall of russell pierce sent a signal to a lot of elect republicans in arizona that if you continue to march down the road of scapegoating latino voters they can turn out and vote you out of office, as we saw of russell pierce who. who was the author of sb10700? do we know anything about the votes in the that election. >> what i'm hearing from people who are active in mobilizing latino voters, they did break records in terms

we cited this figure of 80 democrats.here is some number of republicans that people have signed fundamentally opposed to raising taxes in any way shape or form. nancy pelosi fundamentally opposed to giving in on entitlements. good news is john boehner and president obama is not two of those people. they are negotiating. >> neil: it has to be voted on. >> hold on. their job as leaders. >> with all due respect, you are factually incorrect. republicans are willing to give. republicans are coming forth we're not going to be bound by grover norquist tax pledge. but they are saying they are willing to give. president and the democrats will not give an inch on spending cuts, forget about an inch, a centimeter. >> i have to say on that, the fact of the matter is you do know boehner has come out and extended an olive branch in public. so far the president has not done that. i keep hearing democrats talk about polls. they are in a win-win situation. it's all about a popularity contest and not about the fiscal health of the country.

democrats wanted that extra vote. if not for the so-called fiscal cliff debate they're trying to strike a deal on. that would be also on other legislation that would come up with 113th congress. democrats want to ensure they have 55 votes when the 113th congress begins on january 3rd. >> senior political editor mark murray for us on this thursday, appreciate it, sir. >> thank you, craig. >>> outrage of russian president vladimir putin's decision to sign a bill to block americans from adopting russian children and a video of a squarm bursting in a shopping mall. details on that story around the "news nation." [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and save you up to thousands of dollars in out-of-

caller: all the democrats. am sorry to be that way and god bless the children's families involved in the incident because their families raise them well and god bless them all. god took them out of this corrupt world. host: akron, ohio, independent line, good morning. caller: good morning and the merry christmas. the person i will miss the least in congress will be jim demint. i wish him good luck with the heritage foundation. maybe he could do a better job of defending the victims of class warfare. the one i will miss the most is john kerry. he could defend the victims of reality warfare. to them, it is not a game. host: off of twitter -- new haven, conn, good morning -- caller: a christmas to all. i will miss senator inouye most and senator lieberman least for all the reasons the previous caller mentioned. i remember him running for attorney general in connecticut and his body man was bill clinton but i think the man as a traitor to everything. host: why will you miss senator inouye. caller: because he was a

democrats are saying we don't buy that. we're going to do it now, a majority.ountry supports us doing it and we're going to do it right now. it's a little bit the inverse of the republican argument that if we give you tax hikes now, how do we know we're getting the spending cuts later. democrats are saying the same thing, but in reverse. >> they feel they have the wind in their sails, not only because of the election, but people talk about debt ceiling being leverage. it would not be good for their party. >> that's exactly right. >> let's hear from jen first, ezra. i have a policy question for you. >> i think the debt limit is something that republicans are willing to put out there and hold over the democrats' head, as crazy as that is, but at the same time, there are a couple of dynamics, political dynamics, going on here. one, if you look at the exit polling from the election, it's not just that democrats in washington feel strongly about taxes going up on the high income, the american people, two-thirds of the american people -- >> including republicans. >>

i get a sense the democrats are unified. but going over the cliff, that affects the constituents big time. correct? >> how do you hold that together? >> there's unanimity that july 25th, we passed tax cuts for the 98% to continue this tax policy that they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep saying no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect elizabeth warren, a champion of financial reform, will get a spot on the banking committee. >>> and senator john mccain hints he might favor filibuster reform. debbie stabenow is here on rule changes. stay with us. we're right back. >>> to all the small business owners who are tired of the system rigged aga

>> that's exactly where democrats are.el like they want to get a deal with republican backing, if they can. but remember on friday, the president kind of put republicans in a box. he said either cut a deal in the senate and push it through, or i'm going to ask harry reid to put my scaled back plan on the senate floor. and remember that scaled back plan has tax increases for everybody who makes over $250,000, which republicans don't love at all. i'll have harry reid put that on the floor and you'll have to block it. and you will have to then take responsibility for not pushing it through. so republicans are a little bit in a corner here, which is why i think mcconnell exercised the biden phone to the white house to see if he can work something out. >> so you guys are ordering in pizza tonight, lots of coffee? >> we're here for the duration. we're watching and waiting and will report it as soon as we know it to you guys. >> thank you, chris. we look forward to that. we'll have much more as we cover the negotiations on capito

that's when we'll see the inner party warfare within the democratic party?> it's up to him to force that debate within his own party. you talk to a lot of democrats and they say we can never raise the eligible age. it's a disaster. people are in physical labor. they can't make it from 65 to 67 without falling through the crackses. other ones say do it, just do the three things republicans are asking for the change cpi or raise the age and means testing. it's a divide over there. he keeps putting off having the fight with his party to get to a compromise that actually gets this solved. >> although, as he pointed out in the interview this morning he has gotten there on the change cpi issue which seems like a technical thing but there's money there. >> we'll see if that holds the new year, if we go over the cliff it's a new ball game. >> our panel will stick with us. more sorting when we come back. restore revive rejuvenate rebuild rebuild rebuild >>> welcome back. we've been discussing the president's interview this morning, things he had to say mostly about t

democrats. it's bad for real americans. let's go back to the tax. your paycheck is going down 2%. everyone's taxes go up. it will really have an effect is when people get their first paycheck in january and the christmas bills are due, the average working class family will have their paycheck drop not 2% but closer to 5%. democrats see it as leverage, but it hurts real people for the short-term. >> when you talk about it, absolutely. if we go over the cliff without changing anything, this will be the end of unemployment benefits for more than two million americans. people who cannot wait a couple of months to get the money back and don't have the safety net. this is a very serious situation for some americans. on this show we have a slope and not a cliff. for some it is an immediate pain cliff situation. >> we should differentiate between the things that are really a cliff. unemployment and income taxes and the other things like the spending cuts draw out over a year. the sequester and other thi

that's why i think you see democrats -- that's why you see democrats being much more adamant on that, certainly than they were in 2010. look, i think the country wants a zeal, and like ryan, i think we're going to get a deal. at some point in the next six months, we're going to end up with a tax rate for those at the top that is higher than it is now, but lower than it was under bill clinton. it's going to be messy getting there, but a higher rate for those at the top seems to be an inevitable outcome of this. >> speaking of messy, the progressives love to get on the bandwagon on that one issue. what are they going to do when the president starts moving against entitlements? >> well, you know, what's interesting on that, republicans gambled and lost, i think in the summer of 2011, president obama showed willingness to go much further on entitlements than he is today. he'll end up going further on a deal than he is now. but not as far as he would have then. he will have to confront his party. that's part of the definition of being president, saying no to your own side. there's a case t

again, the legislative process when you have a -- with a democratic president and democratic senate but without the 60 votes necessary to move legislation forward and a republican led congress, if you don't compromise, the american people are hurt and the country is hurt and the economy is hurt. >> that's what americans want to hear. that compromise is reached there. congressman steny hoyer of maryland thank you so much for your time. senator harkin on the floor speaking, not also agreeing with the terms of the deal. appreciate your time. >> you bet. thank you. >>> we have many more voices weighing in. republican congressman tom cole of oklahoma joins us live in a few moments and later this hour we'll hear from congressman steve israel, democrat from new york. stick around for that. >>> the other big developing story we're following, secretary of state hillary clinton in a new york city hospital this morning being treated for a blood clot. her spokesperson says the clot was discovered during a routine followup exam yesterday in the wake of the concussion she suffered several weeks ago f

what will the democratic strategy be now? congressman elijah cummings and john garamendi will be with us. we're coming right back. [ male announcer ] the 2013 smart comes with 8 airbags, a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd >>> coming up next on "the ed show," i'll ask congressman elijah cummings and john garamendi how the democrats proceed after tonight's disaster for republicans. plus, all the political fallout with steve bennan and michael tamaski. and we'll hear from eric cantor next np share your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using the hash tag edshow. we're coming right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for joining us tonight. speaker john boehner didn't have the votes for his own plan b this evenin

democrats consoldalted. republicans consolidated.middle, many of whom voted for the president but who weren't ready to say they wanted another four years. it was a perfect message to them. he tried, you tried. let's move forward. >> respond to that, why didn't you use that? >> it was something that buoyed the president, the personal likability factor. but the people felt that this was something that if we're going to focus on the economy, it's something we go out there, that was a mistake, and stephanie has pointed out, which is we didn't do it on a much more broad and sustained way. we only did it in precise hits here and there. >> i thought the negative ads were within bounds. where things weren't within bounds all the time was on the senate level. i have a little bit of a best of of some of the most negative ads of the cycle. >> carmona is not who he seems. he has issues with anger, with ethics, and with women. >> with a history of bar brawls, altercations and road rage, a trail of unpaid debts and tax liens, one of the worst atte

they will vote democrat no matter what the republicans do.e may pick up five or circumstance percent, that's great. and i would do everything i possibly could to make sure that the republican message gets through to majority -- to as many hispanics and latino voters as possible, and that is that, you know what? a lot of the things you came here to escape, a lot hoff the problems of the country you came here to escape are the things democrats are going to put in place. >> congressman, don't goway. we'll have more with you and our the second most -- "geraldo at large." >> scapegoating susan and grooving with grover are coming up, first we're coining with former colorado congressman tom tancredo, and now children who came here with their parents. >> cassandra, are you afraid that you will be deported? do you live in fear of that? certainly prior the president's executive order. >> well, geraldo, i do. mostly because this is my home lean and i have lived 12 years here. >> how old when you were brought here. >> six. >> from mexico? >> yes. >> as y

republicans vote present, democrats pass the tack increase with only democrat votes and then the democratsre the parties of high taxes and the republicans are the party of lower taxes. that's the way if should be. >> well, house is not going to go for that. do you agree? the house isn't going to vote for the democrats deal. >> i'm not saying vote for the bill to raise taxes, i'm saying that we vote first on a bill that says we will not raise the taxes, and that is our true position. that's what we stand for. we think that you stimulate the economy by leaving more money in the economy, actually lowering taxes. that's our philosophy. that's who we are as republican. so i would pass that. the house has passed that previously. i would pass that again now and that if we cannot get the president to negotiate from that position, and if they are going give in, don't give in by splitting the baby, give in by voting present, let the democrats pass an increase in the upper tax brackets, comes over to the senate, republicans vote no, and it becomes a democrat tax increase but not a republican, slash,