why i registered as a democrat. but i vote for whoever is the right representative. thank you. host: "the new york times" also has a story by jonathan martin and alexander burns this morning, the headline reads angered by shutdown retreat, liberals threaten to mount primaries and they blinked because they always put the success of the party first, luis gutierrez, one of the leading advocates for immigrants explaining the spanish got short shrift and the one word in spanish they know, manana. the hasty retreat particularly after the march to protest against trump. liberal groups such as moveon.org asked them to sign up to rally against republicans to protect dreamers. by noon their own's allies in congress had buckled. quote, the grassroots are rightly furious with the slew of democrats. ben wikler of moveon.org in the obama years republicans learned to be more afraid in challenges and the tea party is more powerful than the resistance. let's go to mark in seattle, washington. independent line. caller: good morning.

democrat. if they were republican, they were going to vote for republican. when i talked to independent voters, as you know, those are the important people that swing at a certain point, summer or in the fall, they're still nimble about this, and there's this idea that there's probably going to be so many more crisis between now and november, i don't know that it hurts either party that bad -- that much. as we talk to our other panelists, let me give you a little bit i'm learning from our folks that we have planted there in washington. they said on the senate floor, republicans and democrats are spending more time than usual on the opposite side of the chamber. i guess they're trying to make some sort of deal, win people over, on the republican side of the chamber, a huge scrum has broken out. with democratic senators cane, stabenow, donnelly, klobuchar, bennett, cardin. the scrum continues to grow. tillis and corker. meanwhile dispatched to the democratic side of the room to talk to elizabeth

democrats. in that scenario, if there's not a deal struck, you could have one of these deals where it goes 16, 17 days of a shutdown. then you are feeling it because nobody's getting paid. they're still showing up for work but they're not getting paid and that's not fair to those people. >> and they do -- we understand most of them get that paid back but there are costs with stopping and starting major functions of the government and there's studies non partisan in nature that said there's a hit because it does cost money to turn levers off and on because a lot of the agencies phase people out. they have a stock-down, step-down plan. it doesn't happen overnight. >> the last shutdown was a choice they wanted it overnight. there's money that can be used to lesson the blow. the only caveat is a lot of the agencies don't have lower level appointments. the nominees were never put in or they didn't fill the spots so some of these places are holding the dike with their fingers because there's a lot goi

democrats have to -- >> democrats should support the bill in the senate. the house has passed a bill. the senate has a couple choices. they could not take it up. either they take it up and pass it, don't pass it or change it and send it back to the house. the point of the matter is there are things of the bill they like. they have nothing in this bill that they don't like. the only reason they aren't voting for it is they want other things to be added to it and they want a shutdown. that's the only explanation we have. >> the main thing democrats want is daca. and you've said before everyone wants a solution on daca. what is the big sticking point then on your end about including the daca fix in this bill? you don't get to vote on a summary. there have been months of work as you see with any major piece of legislation. it shouldn't come together overnight. there is no daca bill to vote on and there is no emergency in terms of the timing on daca. daca does not expire until march 5. there is absolutely no reason to tie these two things together right now. >>

mitch mcconnell yesterday and today, it wasn't all schumer shutdown and democrats and democrats and democrats. he clearly was trying to provide some sort of an off ramp for the democrats here. he seems to be much more in the mode of plotting along to try to get the seven or so democrats he needs on board to reopen the government where as -- kaitlan mentioned this, the whos y s wh seems full on aggressively slamming the democrats. >> it is different when we flashback to the 2013 shutdown, because whether it was on the shutdown or debt ceiling negotiations, president obama, we would consistently hear from those within the white house, he's trying to be the grown-up in the room. he's trying to be the grown-up in the room and as you hear david explaining so well there, that's really the role that mitch mcconnell is trying to play over the president here. >> that's exactly right. the circumstances are that there are important differences between then and now. first and foremost, the republicans in congress were trying to take away the sitting president's signature issue, which is obamacare. in thi

some will be angry thinking the democrats blinked too soon, thinking the democrats didn't get as much commitment on legislation. we're watching a lot of politics play oucht. i want to bring in dana bash who has covered the senate for quite some time. dana, the democrats saying we got what we needed, a commitment to debate in the senate, but there is no reason to think that if they pass a daca bill, an immigration bill in the senate, there is no guarantee that anything like that will pass in the house, is there? >> no, there isn't at all, and that's why the not so subtle trashing of the president the democratic leader started with by saying, what happened to the guy who was supposed to make deals, was so critical because schumer was taunting the president. he knows if it gets to the point where you're going to need to pass this in the house, that is going to be up to the president. the president is going to be the one who has to step forward and give house republicans cover. from the house speaker, who is going to have to be forced by the president to put that whatever bipartisan deal

they say frankly, the democrats blinked. and many in the party are accuse go democrats of caving. a source saying in a house caucus meeting today, the chairman of the congressional black caucus said the senate democrats are, quote, getting their butts kicked. either way, though this shutdown on track to end, we are by no means over difficult days. in fact it might just be beginning. we have the press secretary hogan where we'll talk on one of the gang of six, to corey guard not that i remember, and a dreamer and activist who thinks the democrats caved. let's begin with pam will brown. president trump obviously fancies himself a deal maker but as far as we can tell he's been absent. is there any more clarity going forward on where president trump stands on these major immigration issues? >> reporter: white house press secretary sarah sanders said the president's position hasn't changed. if anything his positions have hardened. she stopped short of saying he would support citizenship for the d.r.e.a.m.ers but she said the white house is hope al deal will get done in a couple of week

certainly a lot of democrats wanted to get ship done. the democrats voted to come for thedebate. specifically cited the children's health insurance program. doug jones, the noah's senator elected in alabama. surprisingly last month. he says it's too inborn. several of their allies say, take the deal on children's health insurance. but it is one of those things that there are calculations on a level i am not privy to that very few people are about where they can exert their leverage. apparently, this is where the democrats will draw the line. >>julie: the president wrote a rare op-ed today. basically touting his one-year accomplishments. it appeared in the washington examiner. he calls this a year of real change. even as democrats continue to obstruct and play politics, i have never stopped fighting for the people.and i have no intention of changing course. i promised january 20, 2017 would be a new day for all americans. the day the people became the rulers of this nation once again. what do we reflect upon when we look back at president trump's first year in office? >> certainly

senate democrats did this. senate democrats are the ones who can stop this and that's at noon today. >> this vote in the senate would require 60 yes votes on three week government funding package. paris? >> mike emanuel, thank you very much. pete, something that lit up the social media airwaves was a tweet i put out over the weekend about why congress is still getting paid. you can go to some of their congressional pages, some of them are not essential. >> double standards are rampant. members of congress should not only not be paid but they shouldn't get back pay. if you can't do your job you shouldn't get paid and i think that's where the american people are. democrats know the shutdown is bad for them. behind the scenes they understand that it is bad for them. the question is what's more important to them, 2018 or 2020? your 2018 senators are voting for the continued resolution. they want the government open because they know it hurts them. your 2020 contenders, kamala harris, bernie sanders, elizabeth warre

the democratic leader could end this today. get past this crisis and get onto a host of serious issues that require thoughtful, bipartisan negotiations. the shutdown is going to get a lot worse tomorrow. a lot worse. enday would be a good day to it. all we have to do is pass the commonsense legislation the senate is currently considering. ending a government shutdown and ensuring health care continues for vulnerable children, there is nothing in this measure that my democratic friend cannot support. situation. votething changes, the will be no sooner than 1:00 a.m. tonight. we could resolve this much earlier if the democratic leader would throw out the procedural objection and allow the senate to proceed to a vote. our constituents want us to end this. secretary mattis, our military leaders, and are governors want us to end this. right dayday is the to do it. democrats all need to withdraw their filibuster and allow a bipartisan majority to move america forward. if they really care about the big issues, increased defense fundin

because it has overwhelming democrat support. democrat support.e 7 republican senators on board with that agreement. it could fly through here tonight. we could pass it in the next ten minutes if senator mcconnell would put that up to a vote. that's what's been so disappointing. because agreement is here in the senate. i don't know why we have to wait and figure out what president trump wants to do. let's pass it. he said if we got an agreement he would sign it. if he wants to change his mind, that's up to him. but let's do our job right here. let's do it tonight. and if we can't get it all done tonight, take a couple days, finalize it, get it done early next week. >> your job among other things is to get democrats elected to the senate. in the midterm elections, 56% of americans now say in our new poll more important to fund the government than to pass the daca legislation. are you listening to them? >> well, i'm definitely listening to the american people. and all of us are, which is why we are working to get a bipartisan agreement. this is not

five democratic senators voted for it.ast forward to today on the procedural motion and there were 33 senators who caucused with the democrats who backed basically the same bill. ok, the timeline was a little different. the republicans were unified in their message. they were very aggressive. in 2013 when they were trying to get rid of obamacare funding they were not. they were on their heels. this situation was different, the republicans felt they had the upper hand. a lot of democrats are saying that they blinked. host: let's go through some of the senate democrats who did not support today's action. senator sanders of vermont, elizabeth wharton -- warren of massachusetts,, harris of california, what do they all have in common? guest: they're all thinking about running for president. there is no doubt about it that those candidates who are thinking about it, who are in the senate, they were critical of what senator schumer struck. interesting vote was senator tester who is up for re-election voted against this . but with

democrats say, no, it's republicans. republicans say it's democrats. in that scenario, if there's not a deal struck you could have one of these deals where it goes 16, 17 days of shutdown. then you are feeling it. because nobody is getting paid. still showing up for work but they aren't getting paid, that's not fair. >> shannon: and they do, we understand most of them, get that pay back. >> bret: not getting paid there. >> shannon: but there are costs with stopping and starting major functions of the government, all kinds of studies nonpartisan that say you know our economy takes a hit, the gdp takes a hit, if this goes on any substantive amount of time. it does cost money to turn levers off and on. a lot of agencies fades people out, they have a -- phase people out, stepdown plan, not like it happens overnight. >> bret: right, but there was a choice the last shutdown, they wanted it to happen overnight. mick mulvaney talked about that today, there's money that can be used to lessen the blow which they, i think, are doing. only other caveat is that a l

a lot of democrats are saying they blinked. >> let's go through some of the senate democrats who didot support today's action. senator sanders of verm, elizabeth warren of massachusetts, ka ma la harris f california, kristen jill jill brant of new york. what do they all have in common? guest: they're all thinking about running for president. those candidate whors thinking about, who are in the senate, they were critical of what senator schumer struck. another vote i thought was interesting, senator tester who is up for re-election voted against this but without a doubt you were seeing, we've written about the intra-party fights on the right. there's a lot of intra-party fights on the left. schumer was stuck between his centrist democrats running in red state this is juror and the 2020 possible presidential candidate. host: your colleague was reporting there was a smile on the face of senator mcconnell heas heard the reaction from chuck schumer on the senate floor. guest: yeah, and you don't see mitch mcconnell smile much he keeps his cards to his vest he said there will be no hutdown

senate democrats derail bill to avert shutdown. senate democrats block passage of a stopgap spending bill to keep the government open. bloomberg, senate democrats block g.o.p. funding plan as shutdown kicks in. those are just a few of the sort of coverage of this by the media. and so the point i would make, mr. president, is that i think it's not being lost on people outside this chamber what happens happening here. this is purely an attempt to hijack the united states senate over a debate on an issue which, frankly, doesn't have an urgent deadline. there's nothing that says that we have to have the issue of daca solved tomorrow or even the day after that. there's a deadline in march and there were good-faith negotiations underway between republicans and democrats in the house nn the senate -- house and in the senate to solve that issue, and it is an issue that needs to be resolved. there is great sympathy on both sides of the united states senate for how to deal with those young people who were brought into this country here illeg

go ahead. >> i am a democrat, and i do support what democrats are doing. i do believe daca is very important to our country. we need to get these children and young adults to have a stable home, which is in the united states. republicans have had a long time to work on this also, and they have refused. the president -- that hurts me to say -- is a terrible person, and that goes along with the house of representatives and the senators that are republicans. they lie. they keep lying, and they are hurting our government. there is an end to this if they would just come to the table and be receptive. both parties need to be receptive, but as i see, and i keep changing the channels and hearing the republicans, it is just like, "no, we are not going to do that. we are not going to do that. the time has come. it has been a year and you have not done anything. march is a long way away, and it's not. march will be here. it has been a year. you have done nothing. all you do is support donald trump and his lies and you live. we need to get away from being liars becaus

fewer than half of democrats in this poll i'm talking about -- fewer than half of democrats say that dealing with daca is more urgent than keeping the government open. these numbers came in before americans picked up their newspapers this morning. when they did, they read from the associated press exactly -- exactly -- who is responsible for this chaos. from the a.p., democrats blocked a four-week stopgap extension in a late-night vote caution the fourth government shutdown in a quarter of a century. you might say they pinned the dale on the donkey. -- they pinned the tail on the done couple of "the new york times," not exactly a bastion of right-wing sentiment, put the blame exactly where it belongs. senate democrats blocked passage of a stopgap spending bill to keep the government open. mr. president, senate republicans remain ready and eager to end this totally manufactured crisis. it is not a crisis. it's a manufactured crisis. vietnamed to avoid it -- we voted to avoid it entirely in our bipartisan vote last night. we're ready to vote again. all we need is nor the democratic lea

the democrats given? kevin: the democrats did give in . in terms of the democratic base you'll hear a lot of progresses were frustrated that daca was not addressed. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell sang for all intents and purposes aaron teen or at least convincing enough democrats to say they will address immigration at head of that march 1 deadline. you heard that from chuck schumer, who said he is confident the emerging minority party, as well as centrist republicans, moderate republicans, will be able to work together to get some type of resolution on immigration. we have all seen this play out before not just with this congress or this president. inking years back over the issue of immigration has not been .ettled for some time president trump can say he was able to get a victory in terms of bolstering security for the so-called wall along the us-mexico border. and that he won. he can also likely go to davos and the government is open for the second state of the union address. now, you have a public showing where they feel the m

my colleagues, senate democrats shut down this government, and now senate democrats need to open this government back up. stop holding our troops and children's health insurance hot t -- hostage. end this reckless shutdown that is inflicting needless suffering on our country. let calmer heads prevail. come to your senses. do the right thing. open this government back up. i yield. >> the gentleman from kentucky is recognized. >> and there you heard paul ryan, pretty impassioned speech there, from the house floor, all of five or six minutes there, getting things started. we were also watching on the side of your screen the women's marchs erupting around the country both today and tomorrow. d.c., new york, charlotte, dallas, los angeles today, the big one las vegas tomorrow. but of course there's a lot to cover. we're going to get to it here. the msnbc news team is on the ground covering the entire government shutdown. garrett haake is live at capitol hill, jeff bennett is at the white house. betsy and phillip, we'll get to you guys in a second. nbc's garrett haake has been covering the

this year it was very clear that democrats in the states and some other democrats in reddish states were not super enthusiastic about the shutdown from the very beginning. you saw some moderates and some democrats in red states beginning to buckle as early as friday. it wasn't clear that senator schumer was never going to hold his caucus together long enough for this to work in on top of that the public opinion was favoring the democrats a bit nationally. but it wasn't very overwhelming and it was starting to go the wronggg way. mitch mcconnell, obviously, comes out of it something of a winner because it's another case where he was able to outmaneuver senator schumer. the moderates in both parties come out a bit of a winner because they were important to the dealmaking process by which this was resolved. >> we saw susan collins this morning andd joe manson. >> senator collins was the only out front citing her leadership, senator mansion is running for reelection this year in a state that president trump one by 42 points. important for him to distinguish himself from the national democrat

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family the democratic response, the official democratic response.his is what he had to say about dreamers. the dreamers watching tonight, let me be absolutely clear -- spanish] you are part of our story. we will fight for you, and we will not walk away. [applause] >> america, we carry that story on our shoulders. you swarmed to washington last year to make sure -- and sure that no parent has to worry that they can afford to save their child's life. you probably marched together last weekend, thousands on the streets of las vegas and the streets of philadelphia, nationally. you sat high atop your mother's a sign thatd held said "build a wall, and my generation will tear it down." [applause] >> you bravely say me too. black lives matter. ,ou wade through floodwaters battle hurricanes, brave mudslides to save a stranger. you that all own quiet battles every single day -- battle your own quiet battles every single day. you drag yourself to that extra shift so your families do not feel the sting of scarcity. to' leave loved ones at home serve overseas, p

he said the reason the democrats own this shutdown is because democrats must work with republicans. they do have to get to 60 votes in t in the senate, they only got 50. so to pass whatever's in front of them they had to get to 60. >> that's correct. it was a by tart san rejection in the u.s. senate of the harmful house concerning resolution. and let's make this very simple for the american people. continuing resolutions harmful to our military. secretary of defense mattis said that a few days ago and we have been continuing to do these short-term spending measures without ever passing a budget. i have been in congress for three years now, i've not seen a single budget from the republican leadership. that's ridiculous. we need to take a stand and fully fund our military and not keep doing these harmful short-term crs. >> how about this one. at the top of the show your clique said he'd be willing to concede some funding for the border wall in order to protect d.r.e.a.m.ers and then make republicans pay at the polls in 2018. does that prospect work for? you do you agree with that one?

i think democrats can hold him to that and so can we. >> desjardins: that wasn't enough for some 16 democrats voted no, including new york senator kirsten gillibrand. she tweeted: "this bill fails to fix the moral issue we must solve. that's why i voted against it." others, including minority whip dick durbin, who voted yes, told dreamers this was their best chance at getting status. >> to all the dreamers who are watching today, don't give up. i know your lives are hanging in the balance on what we do here on capitol hill and with the white house. >> desjardins: as democrats rallied for daca recipients, republicans like mcconnell painted their stance a different way. >> i think if we've learned anything in this process, it's that a strategy to shut down the government over the issue of illegal immigration is something the american people didn't understand and would not have understood in the future. >> desjardins: amidst all of this was one other debate, about the role, or lack of role, of president trump. democrats said he was absent. >> the great dealmaking president sat on the sidelines.

senate democrats did this. senate democrats can stop it at noon today. >> melissa: peter doocy is live on capitol hill. i imagine there is a bit of tension there. >> a lot of tension, melissa. democrats are now saying it is no longer enough for mitch mcconnell to say he hopes or intends to bring a daca bill to the floor in early february once this three-week long cr passes, if it ever passes. they're saying that from mcconnell they want a guarantee that it will come to the floor. >> all they want is a guarantee there will be a process because you are going to deport a lot of children who don't have any other home but america. so there is a sympathy on democrats and republicans. >> this morning republican senator susan collins hosted a bipartisan group of senators in her office for a shutdown negotiations. she said democrats who want mcconnell to promise a daca vote in three weeks are on to something. >> i do think it would be helpful if the language were a little bit stronger because the level of tension is so

democrats put out the word that democratic house members have to stay in town. republicans put out the word that republican house members have to stay in town. if there's anything that happens before midnight tonight that somehow gets a continuing ing resolution going, they'll all be in town. >> they don't have business running monday, there are so many people effected by it. republicans don't want this hanging over their head, one thing voters remember is who failed to give them the checks they needed to make sure they could make ends meet. >> ron, one of the reasons the leader of the senate will call for a vote that he knows he is going to lose is that he has to prove to someone that this is a losing proposition. sometimes they're trying to prove to the house of representatives this is a losing proposition. in this instance there's no doubt the person they have to prove this is a losing proposition to is the president of the united states. >> so a big question is what the president's weekend's plan are. tomorrow happy anniversary, it's the one-year anniversary

it had democrats in the house.idn't get enough in the senate because there was a decision by senator schumer not to support it. >>kelly: mitch mcconnell actually try to get a vote today. obviously they are still debating it but there was resistance on both sides basically stating, we don't need to move that far in the direction of ending the - - ending the debate so they can vote on the bill as it now stands. what you say to the senate members about this? >> i would urge them to stop this. stop the games. let's get to the people's business. the people's work that we are elected to do. it does take 60 votes in the senate. we have to get that 60 vote majority and it means you need to have democratic support. nine democrats to support in that effort. i hope your heads will prevail and we can get on to the people's work.>>kelly: congresswoman, speaking of that, what about daca? that seems to be what the democrats are most upset about. the fact you have children who are dreamers in this country. they don't know what the

i'm joe crowley, chair of the democratic caucus, i'm joined by the vice chair of the democratic caucus, linda sanchez. we are days from the government shutdown they feel only person in washington who has said it would be good to shut the government down, i believe is the president. we don't want to see it shut down. we're working to see it remains open. america needs and redeserves -- reserve -- and deserves leadership but they're not getting it from the president or from the republicans. with two days to go, our republican colleagues have been complicit in the lack of leadership that's been demonstrated by the white house and the implicit lack of leadership here in the house and the senate in getting a budget passed. that's not what the american people want thafle want to see government operating. s the third time in a short amount of space, period of time that we have had a c.r. before us once again in the short-term as of last night presented to the republican caucus. that's not the way the american people want government to run. if the democrats controlled the house of representati

democratic voters in the future. this is a cynical move by the democratic party, and i just and --ey would go ahead back in 2013, they actually did not like attaching anything else to the fiscal bill, but now they have changed their mind. so obviously, they are hypocrites. host: what kind of work do you do in topeka, kansas? caller: i am medical. host: what does this mean for you? caller: i believe i'm an essential employee. i believe i am essential. host: james, from virginia, and independent. go ahead. this shutdown over immigration, the people, the 70%crats realize, already are on welfare, and do they realize that in the future, how many immigrants are going to take jobs away from the kids that were born and raised in this country? i think it is ridiculous to shut down the government over a little thing like immigration. linda, line for democrats. go ahead. caller: i'm wondering what happened to this country. all of these republicans are so -- on destruction. i don't understand. why mr. mcconnell will not put bein

are democrats being able to also stay united?s the momentum now shifting towards the republicans saying it's a democratic problem? it's their fault? >> well, i can't say democrats are very good on staying united on messaging. but the facts are the facts. the only person who's bragged about a shutdown is the president. the only person who said it's a cool thing is his director of office of management and the budget. the only person who insisted and sealed the deal was the republican head of the senate to refuse to allow what would have easily passed for a three-day continuing resolution if it came to a vote. so all i can say is i hope the american people are paying attention to who's in charge and causing this to happen and why. please understand the reason the republicans want to drive a wedge between this bill and the issue of addressing our community members who have had their legal status destroyed by the president is because they know that if a bill is passed in the senate, that it's standing alone -- there's no path for that

together democrats and republicans had enough votes to pass it, five democrats crossed over and voted against shutting down the government. to keep the government open while we do our work. the house had already passed it, the president was ready to sign it. we were poised to send him this compromised solution and erase the threat of a shutdown. but unfortunately, my friend the democratic leader had other ideas. we all know in the senate, the minority has the power to filibuster. i support that right from an institutional point of view, the question is when do you use it? on friday, the democratic leader made a destructive choice to filibuster or bipartisan deal and to force a shutdown of our federal government. now it's the second day of the senate democrat filibuster and the senate democrat shutdown of the federal government. because the president wouldn't solve months of ongoing issues and give the democratic leader everything he wants, my friends across the aisle have shut down the government for hundreds of millions of americans because he didn't get everything he wanted in one m

republicans blaming democrats. democrats blaming republicans. and at the center of it all, the art of the deal president who, at this time one year ago, was taking the oath of office. and now according to a new poll is the least popular president at the one-year mark in modern political history. had everything gone to plan, he would be at mar-a-lago right now preparing for a high dollar inaugural anniversary party. instead, president trump is at the white house. his schedule blank for now. but he is making time for tweeting. this is the one-year anniversary of my presidency and the democrats wanted to give me a nice president. democrats shut down. i want to take you live right now to the hill and paul ryan. >> we do so many crazy things in washington, but this is utter madness. here is the simple truth. senate democrats refuse to fund the government unless we agree to their demands on something entirely unrelated. they want a deal on immigration. and then they'll think about reopening the government. it is a shakedown strategy that senate democr

the democrats wanted to give me a nice president. #democrat shut down.r anniversary of the inauguration. why did they pick this as the date? maybe they wanted to peg it to the protest coming and is the down. as we have seen with headlines and others. it's not working. if it's a madeup or fake headline and fake scandal. rachel: it is. we know daca is not an emergency. daca has until march. and according to a judge maybe until june. there is lots of time to work it out. as you saw in that reel, the president said, i mean, it's very clear, i want a deal of love. i mean, there is no shortage of members of congress in the house and in the senate who want a deal on daca. >> it's going to be an interesting couple of weeks coming up. the left claims they want to protect 800,000 dreamers from detore poor station. of the new report says the actual number is nearly 4 million. is the left hiding the truth? rachel: plus convicted leaker and you? senate candidate chelsea manning just took a big swipe at police again. and this is who the democrats are running? pete: oh

i'm not a republican, not a democrat. as a before obama, i also voted for donald -- i voted for obama, i also voted for donald. it helps to watch c-span and watch these guys vote. it's so divided. at midnight, if they stopped paying congress if they can't sit down and talk it ch c-span a lot, and i see people doing these. what's the point? host: you mentioned earlier today on the house floor, there were a number of lawmakers who are in trump voting states that proposed that they not get paid unless they do their job. we will have to see how that pans out. chris, thanks for the call from north carolina. the vote 50-48. one person who has not voted yet on the senate floor is the majority leader, mitch mcconnell. one other vote is from arizona senator john mccain, who is back home of course. he is dealing with a brain tumor, cancer. he has been back in his home state, and is not going to be voting tonight. we've got 50-48. mcconnell right now being the only one who hasn't cast his vote. we will keep an eye on it. independent

of the house democratic caucus. democrats worked tirelessly to avoid this shutdown. not a single democrat wanted to see critical federal programs shutter their doors or put our economyer at risk. this is not how we ran government when democrats were in charge. but republicans struggled in september to keep government doors opened, tweeted that, andi quote, democrats are holding our military hostage in this shutdown. just the latest in the string of comments where he accuses democrats like me for not caring about our military. and it's the latest example of him failing to show leadership to take responsibility for leading this nation. does he even know that there are service members who are in harm's way right now watching him looking for their commander in chief to show leadership rather than to try to reflect -- deflect blame? or that his own pentagon says that there are short-term funding plans, that the short-term fund plans he seems intent on pushing is actually harmful to not just the military but to our nation

the democrats don't really want to. they just want to talk and take desperately needed money away from the military. several democrats have said they won't vote for a spending bill unless there is a clean fix for those dreamers. democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia remains hopefu hopeful. >> i'm encouraged. we have a bipartisan recommendation, bipartisan legislation that's been worked out after they sat down last week with the president and seems to do everything that was asked of them. i would be very encouraged, all my colleagues are going to look at this in a very positive way. and if the president said what he said as far as you give me something in a bipartisan way, something you workout notes in it. i would look to get that done and move on. >> sandra: all this is a federal judge temporarily blocked of the trump decision to end the daca program. california attorney general filed the lawsuit that happened in that ruling. watch what he told chris wallace over the weekend. >> daca is now actually alive and

you need nine democrats at this rate it seems like you need 13 democrats.ment on that. >> we have experience in futile gestures. we know a thing or two about these things. that's what i think the democrats are hoping. they are hoping that they can get us into a shutdown and make republicans look bad when they are the ones who get us into the shutdown. they're hoping it would be -- wolf blitzer said the republicans are in control, the house, senate and white house and why would they shut down the government? i think the democrats hope the american people won't know it's the senate democrats filibustering this. as you said unfortunately it takes 60 votes in the senate to do any of this stuff. i found it interesting that senator schumer said we should do an appropriations process. guess what? the house passed all the appropriations bill and sitting in the senate since september. every single appropriation bill to fund all of government, those bills passed the house and are sitting in the senate. we passed the defense appropriations bill twice. it is sitting in

number one, how many more democrats. there were five on friday night who crossed o every and voted with the republicans. how many more are going to vote yes today, are going to feel, as chris said, they have those assurances on daca. these are the ones we're keeping a close eye on. coons in delaware. heitkamp from north dakota. she was there voting yes on friday. you have tim kaine from virginia. tester from montana. he's up for re-election in a red state. we're going to see how many can the republicans peel off to vote for that. also, the other question was there were four republicans on friday noo igt who voted to shut down the government. it looks like lindsey graham, jeff flake, they may be switching. that could add two more. the other two, lee from utah, paul from kentucky, maybe a different story there. so again, nine additional votes is what it would take to get the government open here. there were 51 on friday. that's what we're going to see happen on the senate floor in the next few minutes, if they hit that num

family the democratic response, the official democratic response. this is what he had to say about dreamers. the dreamers watching tonight, let me be absolutely clear -- spanish] you are part of our story. we will fight for you, and we will not walk away. [applause] >> america, we carry that story on our shoulders. you swarmed to washington last year to make sure -- and sure that no parent has to worry that they can afford to save their child's life. you probably marched together last weekend, thousands on the streets of las vegas and the streets of philadelphia, nationally. you sat high atop your mother's a sign thatd held said "build a wall, and my generation will tear it down." [applause] >> you bravely say me too. black lives matter. ,ou wade through floodwaters battle hurricanes, brave mudslides to save a stranger. you that all own quiet battles every single day -- battle your own quiet battles every single day. you drag yourself to that extra shift so your families do not feel the sting of scarcity. to' leave loved ones at home serve overseas,

and democrats want to solve this problem. this president who is inexperienced, who has come into government trying to employ the same kind of tactics he has employed in business, threatening people, intimidating, it doesn't work that way. and so i hope there's somebody around him that will help him come to his senses. that will move us to the point of an agreement. >> on the subject of chuck schumer, i might question how profitable it was to work with him. what does that say about the conduit of communication between the capitol and the white house? does that engender any optimism in you that will lead to a resolution of this thin >> i believe that we're going to settle this. i just don't know how soon, what the timing will be. unfortunately the kind of threats that you're hearing from mulvaney and/or the president will not get it done. they are going to have to change their attitude about working with the members of the senate and the leadership of congress. he believes and he would like to think that the president has some

my colleagues, senate democrats, shut down this government, and now senate democrats need to open thisovernment back up. stop holding our troops and children's health insurance hostage. end this reckless shutdown that is inflicting needless uncertainty on our country. let common sense and cooler heads prevail. come to your senses. do the right thing. openness government backup. high-yield. host: house speaker paul ryan earlier today on the house floor. this was a week in which the house was scheduled to be off, except there were a number of compels scheduled, presumably they have been scrubbed. guest: i think they might have to be. whatever passes -- that's a good question. i don't know what will happen with the house. they were supposed to be on recess this week. that is part of the reason why paul ryan is so mad, it messes up the house schedule in a major way. it is clear that house funding measure that came to the floor yesterday on friday is dead. whatever the senate does, the house is going to have to vote on it. it is possible they could do it by some sort of unanimous consent, o

democrats andy 74 believe -- sympathy for democrats and believe they are doing this now under these circumstances because they believe, as a matter of ethical -- -- principle -- back when you were doing that, you were accused of being the small base responding to activist pressure to do something. >> i have a lot more sympathy if i had not been accused at that time of being an arsonist. differentnd, that is in that 2013, we were being asked to vote something -- vote for something that we did not like. the funding bill that was before us in 2013 included funding for obamacare. we objected to that, and for that reason refused to vote for that funding bill. we have a funding bill today sitting in the senate that senators do not oppose. they support all individual pieces of it. we have talked about chip, the delay in the cadillac tax in the medical device tax, the fact that they are generally ok with crs. that is one of the primary differences. we were asked to vote for summing a 2013 at we did not approve of. that is not the circumstance your. here, they are simply taking advantage of the situation

we cannot open the government without senate democrat support, we don't have that senate democrat support which is why we are where we are. another thing would be to get some of those democrats back home to work in a bipartisan fashion but don't. where are those democrats who say one thing back home and then do another in washington. we just want this thing to get fixed. >> five democrats voted for the continuing resolution and five republicans voted against it. minority leader schumer, he wants a commitment from republicans in the house and senate to agree that after the government reopens, it will authorize defense spending, they will authorize about $20 billion for the border wall and provide some sort of path to legal status for the so-called d.r.e.a.m.ers. i have heard this is more of an issue in the house than the senate. but that seems to be an area where a deal could be done, no? >> a couple of different things, the president is absolutely interested and wants to get daca fixed, but what you just read, needs a really close read which is says that the senate has to authorize the mo

democrats want to hold membership every member of the social democrats then would have to decide whether they are in favor yes or no on that it would take at least another and this process alone would take three to four five weeks we have seen that in two thousand and thirteen when the social democrats already hot some some sort of a policy referendum on by the twenty grand coalition yes or no and then it took five weeks to decide to do so so there's quite a lot of time still ahead of head of us until we are going to know for sure if we're going to have a grand coalition another grand coalition government yes or no but my view devolves with the very latest from our land where we are standing by waiting on party leaders to emerge from the doors there apparently they have reached a breakthrough and pray coalition talks were brought thank you so much for filling us in. you know what. i'm going to check now of some other news though because u.s. president donald trump is expected to decide today whether to re-impose sanctions on tehran if he does this would be in violation of the two thousan

is that enough for the democrats? >>> and moments ago despite pleas from members of his own party and his own staff to stay out of the fray, the president is dropping twitter bombs into the mix, writing, democrats have shut down our government in the interest of their far left base. they don't want do it but are powerless. let's go right to capitol hill this morning to find out the very latest on these negotiations. cnn sue zan mel voe is there. what are you hearing? >> reporter: this is going to be a very busy morning just within the hour so the senate will gavel to session officially and the business will begin at hand. the democrats and as you mentioned before, the democrats meeting behind closed doors at the time was supposed to be around 10:00. it could slip a bit here. that is the key meeting to note because that's where you'll have senator chuck schumer with all the democrats to talk about mcconnell's latest proposls here. you've got folks like the five democrats that said, yes, let's go forward with this tempo

some democrats do have the will to do this. but what is helpful for dianne feinstein is not helpful for claire mccaskill. david: one thing they are confident about is if there is a government shutdown, they are confident they can it on the republicans, am i right? >> think might be -- they might be. i think the american people will side with the political party that sides with the american voters. to fight for non-citizens and put the military at risk and government shutdown on the horizon, i don't think is right. the democrats don't want to solve this issue. the fact that there always constant stream of illegal immigrants come into this country, the wall would solve that and that's why they don't want it. david: love is back tomorrow. among his guests, ron desantis. kennedy: will the senate have the courage to vote against spying on americans? plus the government shutdown looking increasingly likely for this friday. and legendary hollywood producer is here to discuss his movie "12 strong." the house dropped the ball when they

democrats are looking for something. democrats have already rejected in a closed door meeting earlier tonight and a couple times on the floor this idea of a three-week short-term funding bill. the question becomes are they willing to just move on into this shutdown that has already begun, as you talked about, don, or are they going to continue to talk and potentially move towards where senator graham's proposal has been? that is still an open question. this is live. this is all happening right in front of you right now. that's the behind the scenes. that's where the talks are. i've been told by multiple republican staffers that they didn't think anything was going to be finalized tonight. the parties were too far apart. but they were more than willing to continue having the discussions, trying to see if there was some way out of this kind of box canyon that they've all found themselves in this evening. that's what you're watching. it could come to an end shortly. i think the people -- i can tell you this in texting back

now, it's the second day of the senate democrat filibuster, and the senate democrats shutdown of the federal government. because the president wouldn't resolve months of ongoing negotiations over massive issues in one brief meeting and give the democratic leader everything he wants, my friend across the aisle has shut down the government for hundreds of millions of americans because he didn't get everything he wanted in one meeting friday with the president. so who pays the price for that? health care for needy children, training and resources for our men and women in uniform, care for our veterans who came home and survivor benefits for families of heroes who did not. full funding for the c.d.c., for the n.i.h., and for routine safety inspections of food and medicine. to most americans, those signed like fundamental responsibilities to. to the democratic leader, apparently they sound like hostages ripe for the taking. and all of this was totally unnecessary. there is a broad consensus on both sides of the aisle that daca and other issues related to illegal immigration require a comp