but the only real guarantee for its safety is a secure, stable and democratic iraq. baghdad's politicians still fighting over forming a new government and american troops soon scheduled to leave, a stable iraq seems to many christians like a dream. "for religion and ethics newsweekly," i'm kate seelye in iraq. >>> in other news, in haiti, pilgrims flock to the sacred water falls to celebrate the festival of our ladyóñ of mt. carmel. the annual event attracts christians and practitioners of voodoo who believe bathing in the water washes away sins and bad luck. this year they pray for a better future for their country that's still recovering from the earthquake six months ago. >>> desmond tutu announced he will retire from public life when he turns 79 years old. >> the time has now come to slow down, to seek maybe some tea with my beloved wife in the afternoon. tutu is the leader of south africa's campaign against racial segregation apartheid for which he won the nobel prize for peace. he also chaired the truth and reconciliation commission which heard testimony about

house late today voted to spend another $58 billion to continue funding the wars in iraq and afghanistan. but several democrats voted against the measure including congresswoman lynn woolsley and barbara leigh. >> let's not spend another dollar to escalate america's longest war. the costs of the war are too enormous in blood and treasure. >> the latest abc news washington post poll shows the war is down to among 36%. among republicans it is 57%. that's down from 71% from a year ago. >>> dozens of demonstrators rallied outside house speaker nancy pelosi's san francisco office today. they sent this video to abc7 you report powered by you tube. the demonstrators are calling on the leaders to take up the federal employment nondiscrimination act in september. the legislation would protect people from being fired because of their sexual orientation. now, if you have you report video or photos to end is us, the e-mail address is you report at kgo-tv .com. >>> well, still ahead tonight, the man accused of murdering a fellow inmate at san quentin, and the father who says that inmate got the easy way out. also ahead, wh

he can't lose the right wing that much because i think he feels like he's pulling out of iraq and the democratsn as the party that's soft on war, soft on the macho stuff, so he has to have some war going. he can't just pull out. i think it's kind of cynical to say, okay, we're going to double down on this but we're pulling out in a year because these people over there in afghanistan, if they've outlasted invaders for hundreds of years, thousands of years, they kicked alexander the great's ass out of there. they defeated the british. you think the idea we're staying there just one more year is instilling fear in them? >> larry: russia's biggest mistake to ever get involved. >> of course. >> larry: fight in rocks, in caves. >> a great line the other day, the people who stormed the beaches at normandy weren't trying to win anybody's hearts and minds. either we're in it to win it or we're not. >> larry: it's longer than vietnam now. where does it go, do you think? what does happen? >> we've already said what happens. we're pulling out in a year. so what is the point of the people who are going to d

be an interest, particularly in iraq, in terms of, of doing some activities which would help the government, umm, and the existing society strengthens itself, democratize itself, umm, deal with internal conflict and the like. >> will the diplomatic process or the political process in iraq and afghanistan-- let's say, let's talk about iraq for a moment-- as it moves into the phase of peace building, change the rhetoric? can the military, uh, withdraw from that kind of, of rhetoric that it uses all the time? >> well, i think the rhetoric is important and it does give uh, some focus to what it is you are attempting to achieve. also the environment itself is important if you're in an anti-insurgency, anti-terrorist environment, you're using military action to suppress certain parts of society or to eliminate certain threats. uh, normally, the ideal situation for peace building is that you have peace and you have something to build on. that's, uh, a bit problematic. we're drawing down our number of troops there as it is, so how that-- they will hand off those roles, they are now confined to bases, i believe, and so that role will shift, not only because of

general david petraeus, who successfully oversaw the surge in iact -- in iraq and we're all gratified that we are seeing the democratic institutions build up in iraq, still problems, just the news this morning of an al qaeda attack in mosul in iraq. so we're continuing to see problems, but i believe that if we were to take this action, that we would undermine the ability for us to continue our quest to strengthen both the democratic institutions and the opportunity for greater economic opportunity to exist in this very, very critically important country. with that, mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the chair lays before the house the following enrolled bill. the clerk: h.r. 4684, an act to require the secretary of the treasury to strike medals in commemoration of the 10th anniversary of the september 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the united states and the establishment of the national september 11 memorial and museum at the world trade center. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: i yield the gentleman from texas a minute. mr. paul

iraq. california democratic senator dianne feinstein and weeks of the late tuesday and set a confirmation hearing for president obama's nomination of retired air force general to be the next director of national intelligence. that hearing is scheduled for july 20. by doing so she backed off from a threat to wait until a key piece of intelligence legislation passed the house before putting the confirmation process in motion. state agencies in utah are investigating whether any of their employees leaked social security numbers and other personal information, after a list of 1300 people who an anonymous group claims are illegal immigrants, was circulated around utah. the anonymous group mailed a the lists several media outlets, law enforcement agencies and others with a letter demanding those on it be deported immediately. tea party activists are calling on the naacp to withdraw their resolution condemning what it calls racism within the tea party movement. the resolution was adopted during the annual convention of the civil rights group in kansas city, missouri. finally, bristol palin and levi john

we don't know how able iraq will be to sustain itself as a stable, functioning, democratic system bringing people like david petraeus we changed the way the troops were being used. credit should go to those military leaders and to the bush administration for coming up with that. it is still important to remember the very large part of that story was also the fact that sunni's even before the surge started to shift in a radical direction because they felt they would need the united states or they would be wiped out by a powerful shiia community. they lost the battle for baghdad, which allowed the sunni awakening that essentially led to the drop in violence against american troops. a series of different things happened in iraq. often people say because we sent more troops to iraq, that diminish the violence. so then the same thing would happen in afghanistan. they don't realize a series of other things happened in iraq that are not necessarily replicable in afghanistan host:. host: 43 people killed, others wounded in attacks across the capital city, hundreds of thousands of shiite muslims lo

iraq. and related spending. the house is expected to go along with the senate version in the end. >>> a congressional panel has charged new york democrat charles rangel with ethics violations. the specifics will be revealed at a public hearing thursday. but the investigation did focus on his real estate holdings, fund-raising and financial disclosures. rangel remains popular in his harlem district. but it could complicate democrats' bid to keep control of congress. >>> the military has booted out a gay officer who was an outspoken critic of its policy on homosexuals. lieutenant dan choi announced yesterday, that california national guard discharged him. choi, who is an iraq war veteran, announced last year he is gay. he protested the don't ask/don't tell policy outside the white house in march. that policy could soon be repealed. >>> the former governor of nevada has died, after falling from the roof of his las vegas home. terry gin suffered an apparent heart attack while making repairs on his roof. he served two terms during the state's most pros prus era. >>> now, for this morning's weather from around the country. severe storms, wit

we don't know how able iraq will be to sustain itself as a stable, functioning, democratic system bringing together the religious groups and ethnic groups as america withdraws its troops. there has been a decrease in violence in iraq that is owed partly to the fact americans sent more troops and under the leadership of people like david petraeus we changed the way the troops were being used. credit should go to those military leaders and to the bush administration for coming up with that. it is still important to remember the very large part of that story was also the fact that sunni's even before the rge started to shift in a radical direction because they felt they would need the united states or they would be wiped out by a powerful shiia community. they lost the battle for baghdad, which allowed the sunni awakening that essentially led to the drop in violence against american troops. a seri of different things happened in iraq. often people say because we sent more troops to iraq, that diminish the violence. so then the same thing would happen in afghanistan. they don't realize a serie

martyrdom video, telling the british public that, by invading iraq, the west demonstrated it was out to destroy muslims. >> this is your democraticallycted governments continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people all over the world. >> nawaz: and this is in a thick yorkshire accent, someone who's born and raised in the u.k., saying to his own fellow countrymen, "your people have attacked my people." what suddenly made him think that the british public had attacked his people, who are the iraqi public, when he's a member of the british public, born and raised here? >> stahl: he's the picture of homegrown terrorism, with a biography similar to maajid nawaz's. a third-generation pakistani- brit, nawaz grew up in an upper- middle class home in essex, east of london. his father was a successful engineer in the oil business, and growing up, nawaz was both happy and assimilated. >> nawaz: all my friends were non-muslims. i actually knew very little about islam, like, very little. >> stahl: so, you weren't religious. >> nawaz: no, i wasn't religious. >> stahl: did you go to the mosque? >> nawaz: no, i didn't. >> stahl: everything beg

denies any wrongdoing but democrats worry that a trial or even a full airing of the charges could hurt them in the polls come november. >> let's remember 2006, it wasn't just iraq and president bush's unpopularity. it was a half dozen major scandals involving republican congressmen that cost republicans control of congress. >> the purpose of today's hearings is to determine if there's enough evidence against rangel to take the case to trial. >>> jurors in the federal corruption case against former illinois governor rod blagojevich will begin their second day of deliberations this morning in chicago. blagojevich has pleaded not guilty to 24 counts, including trying to sell or trade an appointment to president obama's former u.s. senate seat. before instructing the jury yesterday, the judge said he did not expect a quick verdict. >>> and today president obama appears where no president has before -- daytime television. mr. obama taped his appearance on "the view" wednesday. he answered questions from the five hosts of the show and started with some jokes. >> i was trying to find a show that michelle actually watched. and so i thought, this is it right here. >> th

officers protesters say their democratic freedoms and right to free speech are being violated the very things the government said it wanted to protect when it went to war in iraq and afghanistan. democracy but only on our terms that seems to be the message coming from the powers that be in the u.k. capital as a peace camp is finally removed from the government's doorstep as dozens of bailiffs and police sweeps to clear out the campaign as london's mayor said the demonstrators were making a mess and stopping the public from enjoying parliament square but the protesters insist their crucial message is being muted i would like to see the the government . primarily i would like to see the aggressive foreign policy that is government has been pursuing over the course for such a long till going back through many governments and disease and. sobering states. for any reason they've been resident in this focal spot in westminster since just before may's general election mainly calling for an end to the war in afghanistan but adopting other peace causes along the way it also became a magnet for all sorts of people including anna a teacher who gave up her job and her apa

iraq. we'll get to your calls. ed joining us from texas, democrats line. good morning ching caller: good morning. it pains me to sayhis, but i believe the bush administration got it just right in afghanistan with the level of effort they had there, they reduced the number of al qaeda operatives in the country to fewer than 100. remember, the al qaeda that we were fighting, not the taliban, we punished the taliban forgiving them safe haven, and we did that verwell by removing the from power. the al qaeda hijackers were not trained in afghanistan. they were trained in the united states. we got it just right in the bush administration, and we're putting way too much money and killing too many u.s. troops in afghanistan right now fighting the taliban. guest: well, let me say, ed, agree with much of what you said, except a couple of things. one, afghanistan was a training ground, but so was germany and so is other places -- so are other places in the world, like yemen now, training ground for terror attacks. so let's understand we can't forever -- and again, an earlier caller got it right -- just hang

iraq. we'll get to your calls. ed joining us from texas, democrats line. good morning ching caller: good morning.t pains me to say this, but i believe the bush administration got it just right in afghanistan with the level of effort they had there, they reduced the number of al qaeda operatives in the country to fewer than 100. remember, the al qaeda that we were fighting, not the taliban, we punished the taliban forgiving them safe haven, and we did that very well by removing them from power. the al qaeda hijackers were not trained in afghanistan. they were trained in the united states. we got it just right in the bush administration, and we're putting way too much money and killing too many u.s. troops in afghanistan right now fighting the taliban. guest: well, let me say, ed, agree with much of what you said, except a couple of things. one, afghanistan was a training ground, but so was germany and so is other places -- so are other places in the world, like yemen now, training ground for terror attacks. so let's understand we can't forever -- and again, an earlier caller got it right -- just h

okayed for emergency funding for the wars in afghanistan and iraq late last night, the bill had been stalled for months and more than 100 democrats voted against it including almost the entire bay area delegation. >> congress cannot continue to write a blank check for a war in afghanistan that's ultimately made our country less safe. our brave men and women in uniform have been put in an impossible situation in afghanistan where there's no military solution. >> reality, time has run out. we have to do it now. >> reporter: the bill also includes, billions in aid to vietnam veterans and money relief efforts for haiti. $20billion in aid to states to prevent teacher layoffs was stripped from the final bill. >>> the board of supervisors wrapped up a debate about the hunters project. this plan plans to add housing unit, retail and transit improvements to the neighborhood. the city controller says the project will bring 25,000 jobs and raise billions for the city. >>> funding for the historic hangar 1 at moffett field passed a key hurdle in congress. $0million was approved in funding. that's the full amount requested by representative a

democrats disagree with him? there. is paradox and irony in that the president said very plainly during the campaign that he viewed iraqof choice and it was the wrong choice, but afghanistan is a war of necessity. just as in iraq the president by august will have taken american troop strength from 140,000 to 50,000 in combat troops, you will see him pursuing the same patient and careful strategy in afghanistan, to create a stage situation so that afghanistan doesn't threaten other nation and then draw american troops down, beginning in the summer of 2011. >> larry: let's ask it this way, if you are chairman of your party and you make a statement contrary to what your party feels, should you be asked to leave, if it were tim kaine? >> larry, i wouldn't survive something like that in my party. no i wouldn't survive t >> larry: you would not? >> no i would not. but when the policy seems to be anything's fair game if it's blaming the president or getting in his way, i have to -- i have to feel -- my prediction is that chairman steele is going to survive it. >> larry: what do you think of the afghanistan policy? >> well, i

>caller: democrats are trying to pass a house approved senate appropriations bill that would fund operations in iraq and afghanistan and would add $22.8 billion in domestic discretionary spending, including $10 billion for an education jobs fund. house democrats added a bunch of money to the supplemental. the senate this week is going to try to pass the house bill but democratic leaders in the senate are not optimistic. they do not think that they will get the votes that they need, they do not think enough republicans will support the house bill, but they are going to try and ways to prove to the speaker that they give it a shot. host: will they meet the deadline? caller: gates was on the hill last week, telling them that if congress does not pass this extra funding for the troops by the august recess, which is scheduled to begin august 6 in the senate, they would not be able to pay the troops. they would run out of money to pay the troops. it has to be done before congress leaves for the august recess. it is safe to say that it will happen. democrats in the senate are trying to wrap up this week so

democrat line with ali allawi. good morning. caller: i was of course against the invasion of iraq in the first place. now that we are supposed to be getting out, i believe that we need to, by this time next year, i do not mean leaving 50,000 people, but we all should be out of there. we have spent billions of dollars and we should let the iraqis by the whole area, the green zone and we should be totally out of there. we should let them take over all of their problems with the curds and iran. the refugees they had in syria, ga., and elsewhere, i think the money has been overspent. our time there is long overdue for getting out. i think it is best for them to take care of their own cause. anytime you have an election and you still do not have a president, you still -- definitely have a problem. guest: there is no doubt about what the caller was talking about. it is a series of issues. the way the government has now made confirmed decisions about making do with forces, there is a plan to reduce and mention the time the presence of military forces. in iraq. what you have right now was a significant chang

security benefits and using those funds as savings to pay for the war in iraq and the war in afghanistan. enough is enough. democrats in congress are standing up for seniors and fighting to protect social security to create jobs here at home and to support small business as the engine of job growth. mr. speaker i will continue to fight for seniors because they are deserving of the respect that they have earned. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? >> to address the house for one minute. revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the the gentleman california is recognized. mr. dreier: while the president chose yesterday to engage in a strident harsh attack on us, i'm going to respond by complimenting him. at the g-20 meeting i was very gratified to see that the president came forward and said that we could create good, private sector jobs right here in the united states of america if we would proceed with ratification of the u.s.-south korea free trade agreement. it will in fact, mr. speaker, be the largest free trade agreement i

iraq, they have a coalition government. the prime minister mr. cameron was here in washington. nick clegg, leader of the liberal democrat party and a coalition partner would the prime minister said on the floor of parliament that the war of iraq was illegal, a statement said in the "wall street journal" contradicts conservative party partners and mr. cameron. causing quite a stir. let me show you "the guardian." legal warning after clegg's iraq war gas -- gaffe. so, lots of turmoil there above follow up to his remarks this week in the great britain. what talking with congressman mac thornberry, a member of the intelligence committee and armed services in congress and we are told about the intelligence community, spending and our national security and also the iraq and afghanistan wars. next call is from florida. loretta on the republican line. caller: hello, mr. thornberry. i am just very concerned -- #one, this situation in mexico. they really need to tighten it up and start doing their job. i am talking about the federal government that has refused to do that. i feel that this suit that they are instituting in arizona

iraq. a campaign finance bill stalled in the senate today. republicans blocked a bid to advance the legislation. they said it would violate free speech rights. democrats said it was necessary to make interest groups disclose their donors if they run attack ads. earlier this year, the supreme court allowed corporations and unions to give direct support to candidates for federal office. wall street had a muted day after consumer confidence fell more than expected this month. the conference board, a business research group, said the index is now at the lowest since february. the dow jones industrial average gained 12 points to close at 10,537. the nasdaq fell eight points to close at 2288. another oil well is leaking in the gulf of mexico. a barge struck an abandoned well along the louisiana coast today. a plume of oil and gas spewed into the air after the accident. a cleanup company dropped protective boom around the site, but a mile-long slick was already in the water. the oil hindered boat traffic, including vessels fighting the big spill far out in the gulf. and in southern michigan, crews worked to clean more than 800,000 gallons of oil that fouled

democrat line. caller: i think we need to remember the lessons from iraq. our government told us they had weapons of mass destruction. weall fell for it, an d then found out that the government knew that was not the case. this feels like the same thing. we need to be careful and make sure that we have all the facts before we go trying to start another conflict, and other illegal, immoral conflict. guest: i am not exactly sure what conflict he is talking about or what he meant by that, but i would agree that we should not go into any illegal or immoral conflicts. host: florida. ron on our democrat line. caller: good morning. what i have a hard time understanding is we are told that north korea is on the verge of collapse, their economy is defunct, people are starving. and south korea is this booming economy. everything is great for them, but yet, the united states has to defend them. they cannot defend themselves against this starting rabble, from what we gather on tv, north korea -- would swoop down and take self korea -- south korea. i cannot understand th

iraq. they are the ones who instigated the war in afghanistan. they are the ones who instigated the medicare that was not paid for. host: democrats are in the white house, they control congress right now, when does the democratic party take responsibility for the direction of the country? caller: let's take a look at what they have done. they have managed to take a lot -- create a lot more jobs. we were losing jobs before obama took office, now we are gaining jobs. this is an ocean liner, not a whirlpool. we cannot turn on a dime. that is where we have been under republican rule. host: we believe it there. in "the wall street journal," this morning, "a deadly blast rocked the capital of uganda, killing dozens in apparent terror attack, killing crowds watching the final world cup soccer match. the death toll from the explosion has risen to 64, according to the associated press. one american was killed." back to the phones, on our lines for independencts, what do you think about the possibility of republicans taking over? caller: i think that they give the american people an illusion that there's a difference, but there is not. it

like afghanistan, iraq, iran, more and more i believe that national security and intelligence should become much more involved with by the american people itself. host: ricky, democratic line. caller: i think that the question of the day mrs. the real issue. i think that the real issue -- misses the real issue. i think that the real issue is that they are a cross purposes. these agencies are tasked to do different things and what we are not asking would be a great question for a panel of guests to flesh out and put some meat on the bones of this cross purposes. no caller this morning has addressed your statement that flies by. cross purposes. thank you. host: next, oakland, california. caller: in a first-time caller. host: thank you for calling. caller: i have a question concerning the military individuals coming home and committing suicide. where is the security and intelligence regarding them? it feels like we are missing something here when we have young people coming home, even over there, killing themselves. where is the intelligence there? that is my question. caller: -- host: taking some looks at political stories, republicans could set off a frenzy of behind-t

going to make it much more easier for soldiers coming back from iraq and afghanistan to get ptsd benefits. so -- host: pete, new york. democrat. hi. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. you know, i'm a person who lives below my means. always have. always will. always managed to stock away a few dollars every week, every month. and i think we can do it on a national scale. certainly, i think that washington -- our elected officials could do it. but as we all know politics is crippling the decisionmaking in washington, d.c. everything is politicized either left or right instead of going forward. the sense i always get from the decisions that seem to dom out of european countries is that they go forward and are not worried about what the right or left is. but over the years, and i'll give you a quick short list of things. taxing imports. not to start a trade war, but if you look at the taxes that countries have to pay to get goods into china and japan for 30, 40 years, they have taxes on imports. we should have taxes on imports. not starting a trade war. only in this country can you get poor and middle class people to arg

democrats are not pleased. the ethics trial saw by the new york -- sought will coincide with the campaign season. some two dozen families of soldiers killed in iraqd afghanistan -- 2000 families of soldiers and those killed in iraq and afghanistan will meet in the capital. it to beaver and largest gathering of families of fallen soldiers -- it will be the largest gathering of families of fallen soldiers. ford motor posted its fifth straight quarter of profits today. they have gained market share in the u.s. from toyota, which has been hurt by a series of recalls, and general motors and chrysler, who except the federal bailout money last year. the three republican senators who back the financial regulatory overhaul are urging president obama to not appoint a new consumer protection watchdog while congress is in recess. senators olympia snowe, susan collins, and scott brown called on the president yesterday to follow "regular order" in nominating someone to head the new consumer financial protection bureau. finally, president obama says he can relate to the plight of americans striving in the struggling economy to pay their bills while sitting for