here ok i will our other 2 guests are not big on fans of donald trump so as they focus on the democratic party here danny how it there never guessed it's alright it's alright. one minute danny before we go to the break here this is what they're doing with joe and bernie is dividing the party irreparably go ahead danny one minute before we go to break yes that's. what exactly is happening and we have to look at this as who is benefiting and who won't benefit from the destruction of the democratic party i see the more about democratic party as being in need of replacement so what really needs to happen is that bernie sanders in this conflict between the establishment will hopefully drive enough energy of ordinary people to being to think about other alternatives because yes the democratic party establishment will do anything to destroy bernie sanders and that will alienate a lot of the base that the democratic party needs to win ok we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the war on bird state already. feeling. the. little. we'll. deal. pleas

social division about russia and its election meddling or about china now and the coronavirus the democratic party is finally getting closer to picking a candidate who will face off against republican president donald trump in november the process has been a battle for the soul of the party wait not really just the soul but the deep soul which now seems split between the establishment represented by former vice president joe biden and the revolution championed by senator bernie sanders so which way will this all go and which candidate has a better chance of inspiring americans and more crucially getting them to the voting polls and leading his party to victory i emphasize his as a bunch of hers have already been knocked out of the race fortunately we have 3 people in the room who have the answers reverend leah daughtry who is the chief executive officer of the democratic national convention not once but twice in 20082016 both were historic for the party michele gale a grassroots democratic party activist in chicago she's been canvassing for bernie sanders nonstop since his 1st run in 2016 and they

well i i actually think that many of his ideas are are quite in line with the democratic party and i think that many of his supporters are what they would consider themselves true democrats and that he speaks what the the democratic party. does speak on a wide range of issues in their platform but in terms of the specific ideology of bernie sanders it's not. i'm not sure if it's so much the socialist label but we do have to keep in mind that he has never registered as a report as a democrat he has name he has insisted on remaining as an independent and that signifies something to the party more than that he has actually sometimes voted against democratic policies or legislation while in the senate because of his ideological purity because he felt as though this legislation did not go far enough to wards where he wanted to go immigration reform is one such example we we have to understand that. his ideological purity is what his supporters love about him as moron said he is is as clear and he's passionate when he speaks and a lot of democrats like what he has to say but he hasn't alway

years talking and talking about present times mental fitness but here's the big reckoning in the democratic party peter and that is democrats have to ask themselves you're looking at mike bloomberg who has a $1000000000.00 with a b that he said he's going to spend taking down president trump well if you have that $1000000000.00 focused on president trump but you also know that your own guy probably doesn't have the juice it takes to win in november what are you really doing and i think the democratic party has some soul searching to do here they're going to take down the president of the united states but they don't have someone to back fill that position you're you're only damaging america at that point. in your opinion is joe biden the your candidate the party's candidate because i tend to agree with walter is that they just don't want bernie sanders they're willing to lose donald trump to avoid seeing bernie sanders succeed go ahead jason. well i'm more in line with bernie sanders myself but the thing is the same thing in 2016 the voters were not and you know you can talk about some of the thi

is a home for for strong female candidates i really think that we the democratic party doesn't necessarily think that biden is the perfect candidate but they felt compelled to give an early signal of whom to consolidate around precisely because the republican party did not do that in 2016 and it led to the fragmentation of the party that we still see today and and the ability for trump to get the nomination and go on to win the presidency the democratic party went with biden his poll numbers were better in certain key constituencies we have to take seriously the minority vote to take you really the black vote for biden and also the demographics we are looking at electoral college alex and in some ways i do see that more in terms of baseball you pick up where you can and pennsylvania with wisconsin and michigan those are biden countries writes not speaking of the demographics there is a generational divide in these primaries i mean the young voters bernie sanders of course the older voters seem to love joe joe biden the older generation are with him. does this bode ill for the d

i think it is a very honest vapor the democratic party -- debate for the democratic party. host: by all accounts one of the the pivotal moments was endorsement by congressman jim clyburn. this is what the associated press is riding -- clyburn a bust as moment changing the landscape in 2020. political endorsements are often ought of as having political half, but the backing of jim clyburn seems to of been the endorsement that brought biden's candidacy back from the brink following lackluster .erformances in a early states it was a way to signal for black voters in south carolina that biden would be the candidate to stand up to those interests. he scored a blowout margin of victory of nearly 30 points. guest: i have been around politics a long time. been a candidate, state chair, run campaigns. i have always had a jaundiced view about endorsements. yeah, you try to get as many as you can, but in the end they do not amount to a hill of beans. what, a big, huge exception is the endorsement of jim clyburn for joe biden for the south american primary. 50% of african-american vote

good we do not have that right now we have a lunatic in charge of the democratic party. and it is very dangerous, because the only way the parties can be honest is if both sides are at least beginning the same language. and have the same semblance of truth, the other thing that the congressman just said that i think is so important about the elections, is that they have consequences, that's true about 2018, and it's true with about 2020, and it's true about 2022. because you are, right the genius out of the bottle, but it is not just for tender years down the road. the genie is out of the bottle for two years down the road. if president trump wins reelection and then democrats managed to win the senate, he will get impeached again. and i suspect there will be -- i don't think they will have enough to remove him. but there could easily be a swell of republicans who decide to bail out during a part of his presidency. so you look at bernie sanders and you, think oh, this guy is whatever. you -- crazy bernie. you can't take it for granted, and the most important thing, it's n

continuing to emphasize those things is a sensible thing for any democratic party to do. bernie sanders is the most aggressive and most of you letting on those. proposing the most aggressive changes in public policy. notany ways, his ideas are any different direction than the democratic candidates. joe biden is the platform of expanding health care securing social security. democrats have platforms that point in the direction of a more generous welfare state. the democrats have put their most cohesive elements at the center of all of the campaigns. >> let's stay with one of the platforms. race is among the big issues. andof democratic voters less so on the republican side. why is ray so important? s -- why is race so important? >> nine out of every 10 black voters vote democratic. the number is practically 100% for black women in particular. racial justice issues, criminal justice reform, the systematic problems of economic inequality that physically affect minorities in particular, these are the things that the democratic party cares about. it matters for their voters. >>

and stop bernie sanders the upsurge of support for bernie sanders is seen as a threat to the democratic party establishment let's take a review of the efforts to defeat bernie sanders. it's been a long winter for the democrats they've been feeling the cold burn oh you know we know you are you live oh i was there to hear your driver was 43. years with no one that it was but now as the spring rolls in the party has descended into panic i think it's a little late to stop and i think that's the problem the game it is pretty much over a reading last night about the fall of france in the summer of 1940 and then general reno cause of churchill and says it's over can either coronavirus or bernie sanders be stopped totally transform society with firing squads dungeons torture and exile so he's been pretty clear that's what he supports morning standards but stopping the burning machine is not an easy task after all. most rank and file democrats more or less agree with his policies so here's how the operation has moved forward . the reds are coming trigger those cold war terrorists socialism is a threat

party and then the party apparatus would negotiate with the democratic party or the republican party for policy demands in the next cycle. and that black political party never materializes, he is part of many movements including the national independent black political party in 1980 and others, but jesse jackson's political run -- presidential run, especially 1984, is an example of what walters wanted, to have a black person run for president and utilize the publicity and power they would get from the presidential run to have leverage. he talks about independent leverage versus dependent leverage. independent leverage would mean you can negotiate with white powerbrokers independently. dependent leverage is what he says jesse jackson achieved, and he says jesse jackson was too wedded to the democratic party, so he could ask for concessions, but only within the framework of the democratic party. so when we think about the 1984 presidential run of jesse jackson, this is hugely important because what jesse jackson does, even as he tries to run as a universal candidate, he is going to be

. >> the democratic party, in many ways, had been built on an anti-civil rights platform. very much in the south. >> nobody believes that lyndon johnson is going to be a friend or a champion for civil rights. >> president kennedy, with his brother, attorney general robert kennedy, had battled to end discrimination. now, lbj takes up the fight. >> when he winds up as president of the united states in the middle of this civil rights upsurge, it turned out the whole time there was a part of him that nobody knew. >> johnson is determined to push through a far-reaching civil rights bill aimed at banning racial discrimination. >> he understands that it will win favor with liberals, with african-american voters. it will be the thing that will entrench him as a heroic president. his aides try to talk him out of it. >> there is a famous conversation between johnson and senator russell, leader of the southern democrats. russell says to johnson if you persist in pushing these civil rights acts to congress, the south will be lost to the democratic party forever, and you will also lose

the marketing it's the media framing the narrative and i've and find it so insulting to the democratic party and that's what they did to trump ok they tried to do that and it turned out the party ok ok christopher jump in what do you put your ideas on how to sarve you know. bridge between what is the difference between c.n.n. and b.c. in the d.n.c. just think about that chris christie for jumping in oh it's a huge difference. you're going to you have all that you've got you've got it larry i've got it i need everyone to the program 1st and then we can jump in it's christopher's turn go ahead christopher. you got john kerry being caught on the phone in iowa talking about how he's thinking about jumping. into the race because he wants to stop bertie sanders look at the end of the day i think sanders is actually going to win this nomination but he's going to have to fight like hell for it because the democratic establishment and their friends in the corporate media are going to do everything they can to stop him in the same way that they tried to stop donald trump in 2016 what happened in 2016

i think it is a very honest vapor the democratic party -- debate for the democratic party. by all accounts one of the the pivotal moments was endorsement by congressman jim clyburn. this is what the associated press is riding -- clyburn a bust as moment changing the landscape in 2020. political endorsements are often ought of as having political half, but the backing of jim clyburn seems to of been the endorsement that brought biden's candidacy back from the brink following lackluster .erformances in a early states it was a way to signal for black voters in south carolina that biden would be the candidate to stand up to those interests. he scored a blowout margin of victory of nearly 30 points. guest: i have been around politics a long time. been a candidate, state chair, run campaigns. i have always had a jaundiced view about endorsements. yeah, you try to get as many as you can, but in the end they do not amount to a hill of beans. what, a big, huge exception is the endorsement of jim clyburn for joe biden for the south american primary. 50% of african-american voters sai

and stop bernie sanders the upsurge of support for bernie sanders is seen as a threat to the democratic party establishment i think there was there's certainly been a concerted effort as far as i can tell by what we could call moderates in the democratic party to try to find a candidate behind whom they can unite and that would be that would be vice president biden's and so i would be very surprised if pressure had not been brought to bear on on both the jazz club char and bloomberg to get out of the race i think most democratic party officials so quickly those elected officials their biggest concern is not actually defeating donald trump it's making sure that they stay reelected this is why i think so many people in the democratic party were really concerned about senator sanders being the nominee it's it's not just that he would not be able to defeat donald trump but that he might cause severe reaction among voters with many of the down ticket democratic candidates. well in his latest show are to america is rick sanchez i think in the sky where things no lie in the race for the democratic p

club which are and bloomberg to get out of the race i think most democratic party officials particularly those. elected officials their biggest concern is not actually defeating donald trump it's making sure that they stay reelected this is why i think so many people in the democratic party were really concerned about senator sanders being the nominee it's it's not just that he would not be able to defeat donald trump but that he might cause severe reaction among voters with many of the down ticket democratic candidates in his latest show are to americans rick sanchez i guess the sky high things non lie in the race for the democratic party nomination. joining us now to discuss super tuesday are leaking up for back good tonight who leans ideologically more toward the bernie sanders jim i think it's safe to say that also joining us. who leans ideologically i think we could say more toward the trump camp have rightly are. a good a start of what happened last night who 1st of all i don't as i don't want to give into the mainstream narrative that biden just won everything bernie's still only

much the minority vote is very important to the democratic party and especially regarding the black vote as i said about 9 out of every 10 black voters vote democratic and in fact the number is practically 100 percent for black women in particular and so race. race racial justice issues criminal justice reform the systematic problems of economic inequality that specifically affect minorities in particular these are things that the democratic party cares about that they have in their platform to alleviate and it matters for their for their voters more let's bring you back in here you raise this point earlier on populism we hear so much about populism affecting us elections and politics across the spectrum how does that play out in terms of who is best suited then to take on from well how about we define populism in 2 words the 1st since we're talking to an international audience the popular some emerges when there is tension between liberalism and democracy is very simple so someone wants the voice of the people against the establishment against institutions in the state they can sit judi

barely exists anymore it had to sell its headquarters in order to survive financially the social democratic party in germany is extremely weak and although there are some right wing populist parties in europe had some success of the league in italy the freedom party in austria. basically they have also been chased out of office yet by the cartel. right now on this side of the atlantic i'm afraid the cartel is doing extremely well and certainly as far as for example france is concerned american in spite of his unpopularity has a perfectly good chance of winning at the time of the next presidential election in 2022 that's right you know we're down you know one of the things i really like about bernie sanders is he talks about real people he doesn't talk about these newfangled idea this virtuous signaling and all of this i don't understand i don't get it ok i'm a political junkie i don't understand most of the white noise particularly on the left ok but i mean when bernie talks he talks about real people and real problems and you know what he's been doing it for a long time right now that you know i

threat to the corporate wing of the democratic party.democratic party and leaders have been going to rich peoples' houses and they've ignored the working class and the low-income people in this country. that has to change. we got to open the doors of the democratic party to millions and millions of people. who can't afford health care, or child care, those are the people we have to start paying attention to. i have known nancy pelosi for a very long time. i'm part of the democratic leadership in the united states senate with chuck schumer. it's my view that every democratic candidate for president, no matter who wins, this nominating process, clearly i hope it's me, we're going to come together because we all understand that donald trump is the greatest threat to this country in the modern history of this country. that he's a fraud, that he's a liar, that he's undermining american democracy. we'll have democrats coming together but the trick is, which candidate can reach out and bring new people into the political process, create the exc

a rule underlying how we have the notion to recommit it shows that the socialist wing of the democratic party a democratic member the congresswoman had the amendment to offer it was pulled back by leadership with the socialist wing of the party did not want to have that go forward. we think all ideas should move on the floor but i could see the test higher for those that are convicted but that socialist wing of the party controls the democratic party said that would not be offered it took the only opportunity republicans had with the majority control the rules committee and it was the sixth time we were able. that is six times more than ever happened when we were in the majority and maybe to come to fruition but see the body vote on theseve items but the most telling part of all of this not the democratic party we knew in the past. not controlled by the democrats but members in the majority who don't even call themselves democrats for socialist democrats now themo idea is to deny the other members their ideas. soye with that let's open for questions. >>. >> you shouldn't take this lightly we

and i think that's really important too when you think about the democratic party at this time, is thatnt. it's clearly not a priority. for stevenson, for the democratic national committee at this particular time. why? where is the strength of the democratic party at this time? how do they win elections? >> it'd be like remnants of roosevelt's coalition from the 1930s and something else, the first advertisement especially pointed out is look back to 1931. they're like look 20 years ago when republicans did bad things. i mean i feel like in the modern era 20 years ago is a completely different environment than now, so it's really trying to harken back to arguments they've been making for the last two decades. >> excellent. kayla. >> i was going to say you can see the contrast between the democratic party and they're continually asking people to look back at what we've done, not even what stevenson has done necessarily but what other democrats have done and linking the party together, that's the only thing they share because he's a democrat, he will be as successful as past democrats wher

i felt the democratic party needed a kick in the ass and they needed a shakeup. it was getting like the two parties were too much the same. and the democratic party had moved away from its base which is real working class americans. >> wasn't he at your house talking about running? >> yeah. as a matter of fact, the very first kitchen cabinet meeting or campaign strategy meeting was at our house on capitol hill which we -- carol and i hosted it over carol's beef stew at dinner with 12 veteran campaign political campaign aides that i was able to put together to listen to bernie and hear his ideas and give him their advice about whether they thought it was realistic or not. but bernie's mission was to reshape and redirect the democratic party. get back to its roots. that's happened. today everybody is talking about the bernie sanders, running on the bernie sanders' platform. everybody is talking about raising the minimum wage to 15. everybody is talking about yu g universal health care. everybody is talking about affordable college tuition and getting rid of college

there's a mississippi freedom democratic party in 1964. there's the lounz county freedom organization, nicknamed the black panther and that black panther party is what inspired the oakland black panther party and the black panthers that we think of in a contemporary context, so walters was all for that, but that does not happen in a way that he had anticipated. i'll take questions. i'm going to open it up. >> i have a question, just a simple question. do you think that black power was a logical extension to like the integration of civil rights movement, or was it a break? >> you know, i think it's both. i think it's separate and distinct, but it's -- i think when you think about civil rights and black oh, you think about these black freedom struggles as a huge redwood in california, a redwood tree, and they are -- there are many, many branches, and at times those branches intertwine, and at times those branches are separate, so i think black power is rooted in the same tree but it's definitely a different branch, but one of the things that

california does not, texas does not although there is an important democratic party there. biden cannot count on the african-american vote all over the country doing what it did in south carolina. >> a mixup with senator sanders getting onto the wrong private jet which everybody having a lot of fun with this. razor tweets as a conservative snarky satirist every day socialist who influence the global managers of climate change happened to the wrong private jet. could happen to anyone. >> wasn't very many years ago bernie sanders was running against the millionaires and billionaires and everybody found out he is himself a millionaire with three houses so he has dropped millionaires from his list of people he is running against andy now a tiny fraction of the population who happened to be billionaires and inflating their power and role in america far beyond what i think it actually is that makes for good politics. >> it was humorous when it was pointed out this weekend that donald trump is the youngest man still running. he is 73, bernie sanders 78, mike bloomberg 78. older wh

you don't want to be a part of that democratic party and truman who's been running for 20 years. ecite, not the bob and ike bit, because that was too boring, but the other piece i could recite that from memory after watching that once. it has all these visual subtleties like stevenson on a donkey riding in the background in silhouette that i didn't even catch that the first three times i watched that video. it's also very personal and digging into the -- i don't know if this was explored in psychology. it's the idea of peer pressure. i like ike. you like ike. why don't you like ike? you should like ike. >> absolutely and you know it is ike, right? and the democratic commercials they didn't talk as much about stevenson. you know the candidate. you know it is about ike. ike's personality is at the forefront of all the catchy songs, the imagery, the slogans that come together to promote ike the personality. you don't actually see him himself in the commercial, but rosser reeves, an advertising executive at this time, talked with eisenhower repeatedly and he said we need to get you in

california you needed to win the nomination of the democratic party because it's almost a quarter of it but you don't need it as much in terms of winning the presidency because it's guaranteed state for the democrats what you need is more of the battleground states are called like a virgin you know like wisconsin like michigan sold so forth so there are concert states that are very important to win the nomination and there are other states may be smaller but they are more important to win the presidency or to just just pick up a lot more when saying this and also the results from virginia very interesting these are excellent points by by marwan and joe that absolutely if we go to a contested convention the argument for biden may be hey i did the best in the states that will matter for the presidency for the presidential election that to move back to to virginia which as joe had mentioned used to be a republican state or even more of a swing state and now has become more and more solidly democratic over the last presidential elections biden is over performing his polls now of course bu

trump and what's happening with bernie sanders there are people on the establishment wing of the democratic party don't believe that bernie sanders can be elected they don't think they will get those dissatisfied with donald trump to vote for him because he describes himself as a democratic socialist what happened with the republicans is that they all stayed in the race because they didn't want to get thinking that they would be the one eventually would defeat trump and they didn't and they couldn't and he won the nomination this time we've seen the democrats surprisingly because they don't have a reputation for being this organized being incredibly well organized the day before super tuesday not after when we get the results we see in the club which are stepping out we see people stepping out and we see them endorsing the establishment candidate who is joe biden now mike bloomberg into the race because he wanted to be an alternative to bernie sanders but if joe biden is piling up the delegates it doesn't seem there's a reason for mike bloomberg to still be in the recent certainly is not a name w

progressive movement, the radical progressive movement whether there was some resistance in the democrat partyyou had moderates, so-called centrist has devoured the party now. charlie: i hope not, for the good of the country we would want moderate democrats to have a voice. there is nothing good for the future of our republic, the gift we have been given to have the opposition party go marxist. iv you mentioned because he was the gateway to karl marx. in plato is the way in what the big conversation is. mark: whil while red. charlie: in the student andnt teacher dynamic of secretaries top plato and aristotle disagrees on one fundamental thing, he disagreed a lot which was a private property is a good thing or bad thing. plato said bad thing, get rid of private property and he argued against the nuclear family.d aristotle said i think private property serves a role, i think if you try to take people stuff away you will take away the meaning and ability to pass on wealth and ideas to the next generation. this divide between aristotle and plato is playing out today in our politics. we have to und

and pushed a little bit to the side so she is known as a progressive within the democratic party corruption was a big topic she wanted to tackle corruption in washington d.c. and that was a big talking point for however sanders put the kibosh on this and capitalize all on that now she is a fierce critic of joe biden i think the. big question is what will she decide and walked is the underlying fundamentals for this decision she will make. who is what is the best interest for the country and the party after all it's about replacing the talent in the house behind me come november once a front runner stefan now out of the race where did it all go wrong for her. while it started before the primaries and then it went really down there she had a great campaign network she had a good grassroots drive in her campaign she has a lot of date are voters who voted for her specifically on the west coast washington state. but also michigan is that her is that right but she were 3rd in in the 1st in iowa she was 4th in new hampshire and in nevada and she was 5th in south carolina there was no way she gets

that what we're seeing is the general chaos in the in the democratic party is quite clear that the democratic establishment are they have a plan in their plan and it is too close to those to be advanced a so-called centrist and that's exactly what they did coming out of south carolina to use. biden's winner south carolina to to create momentum and to encourage new jersey and we call it amy. 2 from minnesota to drop out so that all of the fire can be directed toward bernie sanders and a little bit want to play the role in that by staying in the race. and that is the tracking tonight fear the surge posed to be a path towards peace between the u.s. and the taliban right now but that appears to big time unraveled wednesday washington has conducted an airstrike against the islamist group in afghanistan's helmand province after a series of deadly taliban attacks overnight which killed more than 20 afghan soldiers and police offices will all but of course so barely dry on that peace accords. just a few days ago reflections across those developments them. a historic

new york spoke earlier to new york city council hopeful morning who thinks the democratic party's national committee is doing all they count to to real chances. democrats everybody falls in line they line up so perfectly everybody drops. and you know throws their way to support by so you know that in that respect you sort of see how you know the democratic party is her coalescing and micro-managing every way that they can support biden. and you know i see it you know bernie sanders he said the system was rigged you can see how it's being rigged against him former democratic chair donna brazil got into a heated exchange after a suggestion that the democratic convention wouldn't be rigged against say the hell out of our race i get sick and tired and for people to use russian talking points to so division among americans that is stupid so rather go to hell that is completely absurd i mean this is the same donna brazil who would pass the questions to hillary clinton so hillary would have you know an unfair advantage in the debates against foreign santer so i mean that this is completely absurd