syria carry on our fight and will fight until we win back our freedom and move our quest to a democratic society>> jon: i wish you very well with that. what do you say now a collision has formed. they have strategic air strikes that they believe will weaken isis. is this a round robin? will they have to fight and defeat isis and take on assad. it seems the collision is unwilling to utilize their power against assad. >> american friends have to know we have been fighting isis. since the first quarter of the year. we have been fighting two fronts. we have been fighting isis and the regime at the same time with little headway. we can not carry on the fight of two fronts at the same time without the assistants of our friends in the u.s. and the free world. >> jon: if we give you weapons can we put labels on them. we have a tendency to get weapons over there and the bad guys get them. >> they can not eliminate by terrorist. it has to be more than military operations. need a social, political program. provide a vision for the life of the region. >> jon: i think that's the fascinating part. can you sti

it's also built in hope for democratic society. the cornerstone was placed by marquis de lafayette. it's a monument to the first revolutionary battle that was staged in hope to create a world with rights, and the right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. >> hinojosa: and one of the things that you focused on in your work, there are two groups of people who you have focused on in your work that are really, really fascinating. one of them is immigrants, immigrants without a voice, and the other one is the homeless. >> and veterans. >> hinojosa: and veterans. so let's talk a little bit about the work with immigrants. you have... >> they are called the alien staff. >> hinojosa: the alien staff. >> yes. >> hinojosa: which i remember when i first saw it i was like, "what is this?" it's essentially a staff that has... it's carrying... >> it's like a walking stick. >> hinojosa: it's a walking stick. >> it's got a certain symbolic power, like, that's why it's called staff. >> hinojosa: and it's got their memories, it's got their passport, it's got their papers? >> it has plexiglass conta

the true measure of a democratic society is how it's minorities are treated. >> since winning off in may, he has been busy telling the garden audience he hasn't even taken a 15 minute vacation. the stock market has surged the $15 trillion economy is poised for growth, and he has increased his role on the world stage. india's also now part of a huge new bank for lending to developing nations imagined as a count tore the world bank and international monetary fund, he comes to the u.s. seeking investment partners, monday he met with the c.e.o.s of goldman sachs, google and bowing to name a few, and offed an open market and hungry consumers. the u.s.' long seen india as a bull mark, a counter to the regional influence of china, india's power house neighbor, but with his promises of change, and the needs that come with it, the question is can the u.s. stand to share with china all the new india has to offer? big crowds of supporters throng the park in front of the white house. and protestors complained of the new leadership of the hindu nationalist party. the leader of 16th of the world's

away, there'sgoes no need for a democratic society to fund a very expensive army they would simply go away. them, he r to keep went to lord bathhurst, the secretary of war, and the i've got of war said this other problem. american war of 1812 and i'd like to put it to an end. those to trade with people. we need to have it to our advantage. get out of the war when it's over. he said give me your troops. gave him 30,000 total of the army sitting in france drinking in the cellars that they could find. and they put them on ships and a order was written and sent to the lieutenant general perveau, the lieutenant general of canada. the united 812 in states for the past two years. he had been defending all that time. thehe had a chance to go on offensive because this new order said we're going to do two in our o end this war favor, in england's favor. thee going to use a part of raid gton's forces to along the eastern seaboard in the united states and down to the gulf of mexico. eep the american government, the people, the military's attention focused to the south. but in the north, we're goi

it would probably be disbanded because when the ogre goes away, then there is no need for a democratic society to fund an expensive army. they would simply go away. in order to keep them, he went to the secretary of war. and he said, i have got this other problem. i've got this american war of 1812. i would like to put it to an end. we need to trade with those people. they are vital to us. i've put a stop to it all. let's put a stop to our dennis terri sewell we can get out of this war when it is over. so he said, give me your troops. wellington gave him 30,000 total of his army that was sitting in france tricking and the sellers akll-- drinking in cellars th ll the wine. theecial order was sent to governor general of canada who have been fighting the war of 1812 in canada and united states for two years. he had been defending all that time. now he had a chance to go on the offensive because this new order said, we're going to do two things to end this war. in england's favor. we are going to use a part of the wellington's forces to raid the eastern seaboard of the united states and down into

or system,dented new history of how violence in the liberal democratic society or system, free 1930 germany, free nazi germany led to gun-control measures that were utilized by the national socialists to disarm and repressed opponents and consolidate power. ironically enough, books on the third reich and holocaust failed even to mention the laws restricting firearms ownership with very few exceptions. these policies rendered political opponents including jews who were viewed as political opponents powerless. skeptics' surmise a better armed populist would make no difference but the nazi regime certainly did not think so. a ruthless piece of trust literally crushed by an ownership by disfavored groups. gun-control in the third reich stands two decades from the wine mary republic in 1913, through crystal knock or, quote, night of broken glass in 1 hi8 and the pertinent events during world war ii involving disarming policies. research fellow at the independence institute dr. stephen halbrook is renowned constitutional legal scholar, attorney and author who won three cases before t

number three is we live in a democratic society.our leaders that we care about this issue. tell them, i'm a mom, and i care about it because of my kids. i'm a christian, and i care about it because of my faith. i'm a conservative business person, and i care about it because i want a healthy economy. and the myth is that climate change and a healthy economy are opposed. >> that's right. >> we have the ability and i think we have the responsibility, to do that in the society that we live. >> your parents were missionaries. >> yes. >> are you? >> i'm starting to think i might be. >> for? >> i mean, imagine a world where, you know, the highways are made of solar panels that charge our cars as we drive. where every house is just made áh(anels with a little wind turbine in the corner. where we have no air pollution anymore, you know, killing children with asthma and people with respiratory disease. i mean, i know this sounds like utopia. >> sounds to me like it could be a new gospel. >> it may be. a gospel that builds on the resources tha

maybe there is a productive and necessary role for these cultural institutions to play in a democratic society. and i think we've all heard the initial, you know, myths of the internet, the idea that there would be disintermediation was the word. that, basically, the middlemen would be eliminated, and creators -- whether we're talking film makers, musicians or bloggers -- would just be able to go direct and find their audience. and this was a very appealing, you know, democratic, seemingly straightforward vision. and so what i'm pointing out is that simply, well, it really hasn't come to pass. there's this new wave of gatekeepers that, you know, yes, there is a challenge to the publishing industry through a company like amazon, but amazon is also now a pretty powerful middleman, and so we have to contend with that. but i also, you know, wanted to ask, well, what is it we want of our institutions? if we're so critical of them, if we feel that, you know, the mainstream media and journalism have disappointed us, you know, ask that we'd rather put our faith in an independent blogger, my question i

that's not in a democratic society, you just can't do that. >> reporter: and we talked a little earlier about the pressure on a judge. south africa's first televised trial. you just mentioned that everybody has an opinion about it. everybody thinks they know what oscar pistorius did or was thinking that night. judge masipa, how difficult is that for a judge to distance yourself from every single thing you read and hear around you and focus purely on the evidence? >> well, after years of experience, you do acquire that ability to do that. not all judges, but most of them. she has obvious acquired it. i will say i am very impressed with her reasoning. one can debate that she's right or wrong, but the reasoning, the crux as she's analyzing it as she does. that is so true in the basic principles of criminal law. that's where it comes from. if the onus was on the accused to prove, but that's the difference between the system. >> is there any doubt now that we will find out by the end of the day oscar pistorius's fate? will we be getting a verdict in maybe a couple of hours? >> yeah. well, pr

we're always vulnerable, and always in a heightened threat, because we live in a free and open democratic societyadmits he made a mistake in pushing to have a new school on chicago's north side named after president obama. critics said the honor was inappropriate for a school being built in a wealthy, predominantly white area ... when president obama's mark has been on the south side. emanuel said he sees their point, and is focusing now on getting the obama presidential library. taking a look at the *other top stories this morning. several people have been robbed near the c-t-a red line stop outside u-s cellular field. on four occasions in the past month, men approached riders at or near the 35th street stop and demanded money. police say the men sometimes made threats or used physical force, and sometimes worked in pairs. only one of the robberies happened at night. the description of the suspects vary. cardinal francis george was able to leave his home as he gets treated for an infection. the cardinal attended a dinner at the last day of the bishops conference in lincolnshire. he did not make

in other words, firm decisive action to protect and uphold the values of our free and democratic societiesand as has been said we need to provide an alternative narrative particularly for these young people. i was particularly struck but what you said, secretary general, missiles can kill terrorists, but governance can kill terrorism. we have to say again and again, this has nothing to do with the religion of islam, the religion of peace. we need muslim country after must little countries and muslim leader after muslim leader to speak out as the king of jordan did so clearly today condemning these people who say they speak in the name of islam when they do no such thing. third and finally the action that we take in our own countries we must do much more working together in deat least this threat. the defeat of isil will only come about if we use all of the weapons at our disposal. we must use aid to help the inflicted. we must use our diplomacy to strengthen the countries of the region, and we need government who is represent all of their people, and yes deal with their grievances. the uni

that's not a democratic society. >> do you think there are republicans at heart some what nervous about all this money that maybe citizens united isn't the right way to go in this constitutional amendment. is there enough of them to do skmg about it. >> something about is it. >> the fact is the republicans are maker beneficiaries, so they are looking at citizens united as a pretty good supreme court decision. and by the way, as you know the leadership of the republican party want to go further than citizens united. they want to do away with all restrictions so billionaires can hand across checks for hundred million dollars without expenditures. but yes, i have talked to republicans who have already seen ads coming into their state which makes them very, very nervous. the overwhelming majority of the money is going in support of the republicans but not all of it. so you have republicans in their heart of hearts understand that any billionaire, or corporation can spend as much money as they want on campaigns. >> do you think some day citizens united will be over turned, legislatively and

which is a bedrock of a democratic society. >> you have 19 to 1 student to faculty ratio, 150 under grad majors. 84% of students there are taking six year toss graduate. and in 2013, your research expenditures are over $143 million. what is your job basement record for those students who are graduating from the university of illinois? >> very, very high. very, very high. over last year, we had over 8,500 companies visiting our campus, trying to recruit talent from our campus. and probably more than 100 of fortune 500 companies come to our campus. i don't know the specific number rikts now, but we're very sure that the talent that's reported from the university of illinois are desirable at a very high rate and we put -- we bring our best to the table what i call the workhorse and the racehorse of talent for this country. my understanding is that cspan is going through the big ten. we have a counter part, which is an official aspect of the big ten. i think we walk together very closely, collaborate in terms of academic programs achkd administrative programs. and we look at toetzal submissi

. >> reporter: back stateside x students for democratic society, or sds, antiwar organization boastingbers like bill ayers. ayers, another radical '60s -- would bombing pentagon and more than a dozen other buildings all in protest of the war and other left causes. churchill admits he taught ayers group then known as the weathermen, how to make bombs and fire weapons. >> i had trained weathermen, you know, pretty basic kind of training. i did workshops with pacifists on the -- you can't be pacifist if you're not capable of inflicting violence. >> reporter: in 1978 churchill began lecturing on american-indian studies at the university of colorado. by the '90s he had received tenure. and then came september 11, 2001. hours after the attacks with smoke still smoldering amidst the carnage, churchill penned an essay on the justice of roosting chickens. full of rage about what he called past american war crimes, churchill compared the victims to nazi war criminal adolf ikeman, a man who sent millions of jews to the gas chamber suggesting the dead americans had helped grease the wheel of an im

the reason why they set up the constitution like this was because they didn't want to have a democratic societyort of slide into war without having a hard debate about how far we wanted to go and what we were willing to commit. just like in vietnam, it started with advisers and ended up with troops on the ground who were fighting in an unwinnable morass. so what needs to happen, especially with regards to syria, i believe, is a detailed discussion of who we're going to be arming and clear reassurance that those arms aren't going to end up either in the hand of assad or al qaeda or isis itself. and i simply have not seen anything remotely convincing on that point. >> one of the things you wrote is so true. it is without question a mess, especially the syrian side of it. ryan cooper, thank you for joining us. also our thanks to jim acosta and barbara starr as well. isis has come out with another brand-new propaganda video. this time, it is aimed squarely at the united states and it really looks like a trailer for a hollywood movie. going to show you part of it coming up and talk a little bit more

. >> in 1965 at age 20 he joined the left wing students for a democratic society or sds. in late '69 they held protests in chicago, full of rage about the war, race relations and the wealthy. they ravaged the city's business district, six people were shot and dozens more arrested. later that year a seminole moment, black panther leader fred hampton was shot and killed by chicago police. out of that moment the group the weathermen were born. a radical spin-off of sds. the mission the violent overthrow of the united states. shortly thereafter a san francisco police station is bombed and an officer killed. police later say the weathermen did it. next comes the bombing of a new york judge's home. the group then plots to bomb a military dance, but their explosives go off too soon destroying a new york city townhouse. found buried in the rubble 60 sticks of dynamite. the fbi concludes had the explosives detonated, they would have leveled everything on both sides of the street. three members of the weathermen are killed in that blast including ayers girlfriend, identified by a s

it exists in democratic societies as well. but i think the economics and the argument that we make is quite similar, though, in terms of efficiencies and can we find ways around those equirements. >> the gentleman right here with us with his hand up. there's a microphone coming from ehind you. >> hi. my name is joe hall. i'm the chief technologist at the center for democracy antec nothing. you talked about sort of the move to have more ubiquitous encryption and the ore usable forms of consumer security tools. and he talked a little bit about through the shift, as the professor talks about in terms of moving standard capability from being more law enforcement friendly to protecting the user more. and professor gene camp yesterday put it starkly in the sense that she said, you know, we could mandate that cars should be able to explode on command or the engines explode when being chased by the cops but we don't do that because exploding cars are dangerous. i'm wondering if the panel -- if other people have thoughts about sort of

in other words, firm and decisive action to protect and uphold the values of our free and democratic society. we need to provide an alternative narrative, particularly for these young people. i was struck that missiles can kill terrorists the government can kill terrorism. as has nothing to do with the religion of islam, a religion of peace. we need muslim country after muslim country and leader after leader to speak out as a king of jordan did so clearly today, kenny -- condemning those people. third and finally, as well as the action we each take individually, and must do more working together to defeat this threat. the defeat of isil will only come if we use all weapons at our disposal. we must feed and help the effect did -- the afflicted. and we need governments that represent all of their people and deal with their grievances. the united kingdom is committed to meeting this challenge. only a coherent and correlated response can tackle this threat. it must be part of a conference a strategy to dismantle and destroy isil. it must work in tandem with arab states, always in support of loca

in other words, firm, decisive action to protect and uphold the values of our free and democratic societies has been said we need to provide an alternative, narrative particularly for these young people. i was particularly struck by what you said, secretary-general, missiles can kill terrorists and governance can kill terrorism. this has nothing on do with with the religion of islam, the religion of peace and we need muslim country after muslim country, and muslim leader after muslim leader to speak out as the king of jordan did so clearly today at condemning these people that say they speak in the name of islam when they do no such thing. third and finally, as well as the action we each take individually in our own countries, we must do much more working together to defeat this threat. the defeat of isil will only come about if we use all of the weapons at our disposal. yes, sanctions against isil and al nusra, and i believe we shall do more, and we must use our diplomacy and political settlements to strengthen the countries of the region and we need governments that represent all of our p

the real issue that we are debating today is whether or not we retain our democratic form of society, whether or not working people have rights and benefits, or whether we move toward an oligarchic form of society in which the economic and political life of this country is controlled by a handful of billionaires. that is what this struggle is about. and i believe from the bottom of my heart that while these guys have more money than you can dream of, while they are prepared to spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to defeat candidates who are standing for working families, i believe when we stand together we win because there are a hell of a lot more of us than there are of them. thank you very much. [applause] >> both chambers of congress returned from their august recess. a series of confirmation votes and a vote on to take up a bill that would raise limits on campaign contributions in federal elections. with ase returns monday series of suspension bills, votes scheduled after 6:30. watch the house live. >> c-span debate coverage continues sunday at noon eastern with ka

families and the university as a whole to be a bedrock of a democratic society. ost: at the university of illinois at urbana champagne, you have 19-1 student-to-faculty ratio. 150 undergrad majors. 84% six-year graduation rate. so it takes over four years. 84% of student there is are taking six years to graduate. in 2013, your research expenditure, over $743 million. is your job placement record for those students that re graduating from the university of illinois? guest: very, very high. 8500 year we had over companies visiting our campus, top g to recruit the talents from our campus. and probably more than 100 of fortune 500 companies come to our campus. it's very, very high. not showing the specific number right now. we're sure that the talent we have at the university of desirable, they're high rate.a we bring our best to the table the rms of what i call workhorse and a racehorse pproaches and talents for this country. when you look -- my understanding is that c-span is through the big ten. e have a cic counterpart, the aspects of the big ten. work together,

we see it in senegal where civil society thrives alongside a strong democratic government. we see it in malaysia where vibrant entrepreneurship is propelling a former colony into the ranks of advanced economies. and we see it in indonesia, where what began as a violent transition has evolved into a genuine democracy. now, ultimately, the task of rejecting sectarianism and extremism is a generational task, and a task for the people of the middle east themselves. no external power can bring about a transformation of hearts and minds. but america will be a respectful and constructive partner. we will neither tolerate terrorist safe havens nor act as an occupying power. we will take action against threats to our security and our allies, while building an architecture of counterterrorism cooperation. we will increase efforts to lift up those who encounter extremist ideologies and who seek to resolve sectarian conflict. our programs to support entrepreneurship and civil society, education, and youth. these investments are the best anecdotes to violence. -- antidotes to violence.

in other words, firm and decisive action to protect and uphold the values of our free and democratic society. we need to provide an alternative narrative, particularly for these young people. that missiles can kill terrorists the government can kill terrorism. as has nothing to do with the religion of islam, a religion of peace. we need muslim country after muslim country and leader after leader to speak out as a king of jordan did so clearly today, kenny -- condemning those people. third and finally, as well as the action we each take individually, and must do more working together to defeat this threat. will only of isil come if we use all weapons at our disposal. must feed and help the effect did -- the afflicted. and we need governments that represent all of their people and deal with their grievances. the united kingdom is committed to meeting this challenge. only a coherent and correlated response can tackle this threat. it must be part of a conference a strategy to dismantle and destroy isil. arabst work in tandem with states, always in support of local people, in line with legal obli

in other words, firm, decisive action to uphold the freedoms of our free and democratic society. we need to provide an alternative narrative for these young people. i was struck by what you said, secretary-general. kill terrorism. we have to say again and again this has nothing to do with the religion of islam, the religion of peace should we need muslim country and leaders to speak out as the king of jordan did so clearly today at condemning these people that say they speak the name -- in the name of islam when they do no such thing. third and finally as well as the action we each take individually in our own countries, you must do much more working together to defeat this threat. the defeat of isil will only come about if we use all of the weapons at our disposal. we have sanctions and i believe you must do more. we must feed and a the afflicted. we must use a local subtleness to strengthen the country as a region. we need to deal with their grievances. the united kingdom is committed to meeting this challenge. only a coordinated response could tackle what is truly a global and

but it's in democratic societies as well. they argument we make is quite similar though in terms of efficiencies and can we find ways around those requirements? >> the gentleman right here with his hand up. there's a microphone coming from behind you. >> hi. my name is joe hall and i'm the chief technologist for the center of democracy and technology. mr. mulvenon talked about the move towards encryption and more usable forms of consumer security tools. he talked a little bit about sort of the shift as the professor talks about in terms of moving standard capability from being more law enforcement friendly to protecting the user more and professor gene kamm put it starkly in the sense that she said you know we could mandate that cars should be able to explode on command or the engines explode when being chased by the cops but we don't do that because exploding cars are dangerous. i'm wondering if the panel, if other people or mr. mulvenon have thoughts about the international implications of this stuff and does that put more

it is the most powerful nonviolent tool we have on the democratic society and if we fail to use it we will go backwards. >> congressman becerra. elaine talked about something that was critical. in so many cases people of color vote for people first and issues second. i don't often see candidate incubators looking for young talent outside of the party system. i'm not sure about the work that you are doing, it but how do we begin to, and i don't mean just brilliant college students, i'm talking about young ones to be philosophyed and on the block and connected to a politic platform because they care about something. and then we have the ability to talk them and pull them in. what are ways that we create candidate incubators and electoral incubators so we are seeing a different feeder of folks woulding no the school board and state leg or mayor's races. >> you look at people and they say i tried to find a good person of minority background but they are not out this or they don't come to me. i'm the chairman of the democratic caucus. the majority of my staff on the democratic caucus are p

it exists in democratic societies as well.ut i think the economics and the argument that we make is quite similar, though, in terms of efficiencies and can we find ways around those requirements. >> the gentleman right here with us with his hand up. there's a microphone coming from behind you. >> hi. my name is joe hall. i'm the chief technologist at the center for democracy antec nothing. you talked about sort of the move to have more ubiquitous encryption and the more usable forms of consumer security tools. and he talked a little bit about through the shift, as the professor talks about in terms of moving standard capability from being more law enforcement friendly to protecting the user more. and professor gene camp yesterday put it starkly in the sense that she said, you know, we could mandate that cars should be able to explode on command or the engines explode when being chased by the cops but we don't do that because exploding cars are dangerous. i'm wondering if the panel -- if other people have thoughts about sort of

educational aspects but for the social development of young people to be able to partake of a democratic society. >> and here is another topic for you, that is the issue of free speech on college campuses and civil discourse. here is a headline from "the guardian" a professor at the university of illinois was fired for israeli criticism and urges the university of illinois to reinstate this professor. what is the university of illinois's policy civil discourse and free speech? >> look, civil discourse and free speech are the lynch pin in this country's armor, in times of democracy. i think the professor in question was not fired, he was just not hired. and in our classrooms on campus, we go to the campus, you can talk to the students, there's no restriction whatsoever on free speech or academic freedom on our campus. and we are the chancellor and myself, we are talking to faculty on campus, really debating, trying to get everybody to really start discussing, debating free speech and academic freedom in this new age. and we've been visiting colleges, we've talked to professors who thinks free spe

the thing with voting is that anyone that votes and a democratic society can achieve certain democraticou could have patronage you may elect people that look like you with some influence on policy but you cannot change that economic system. people in south africa find that out. but many people who work for their ancestors were pour they will continue. i think voting is important we also need a social movement if you want social change put your body on the line i saw a in the commencement speech at twitter account or of facebook account is not a social movement because it is community -- important for communication but you have to put your body of the line you have to figure out a way to do that. voting is important the social movements are important to reinforce that vote to make the change. >> host: who was a supreme court justice another one of your books. >> guest: it is funny because people came up after words to say i did not know there was the black supreme court justice before thurgood marshall. they thought since i wrote about him he had to be black but he was very white he was

it is the most powerful nonviolent tool we have on the democratic society and if we fail to use it webackwards. >> congressman becerra. elaine talked about something that was critical. in so many cases people of color vote for people first and issues second. i don't often see candidate incubators looking for young talent outside of the party system. i'm not sure about the work that you are doing, it but how do we begin to, and i don't mean just brilliant college students, i'm talking about young ones to be philosophyed and on the block and connected to a politic platform because they care about something. and then we have the ability to talk them and pull them in. what are ways that we create candidate incubators and electoral incubators so we are seeing a different feeder of folks woulding no the school board and state leg or mayor's races. >> you look at people and they say i tried to find a good person of minority background but they are not out this or they don't come to me. i'm the chairman of the democratic caucus. the majority of my staff on the democratic caucus are people are

the thing about voting is that anyone who votes, whatever color they aren't a democratic society canchieve object inspired. you can get patronage for people like you. that is jobs doing various things in the government. you may elect candidates who look like you. you may have some influence on policy. but you can't change the economic system of voting. people in south africa are finding that out. it was a struggle against the apart night this very heroic and very important. many people in south africa who are poor, their ancestors are poor. they are poor and they will continue to be poor. so i think voting is very important, but it is not the end all and be all. you also need ocho movements. if you want social change come you have to put your body on the line. as i saw someone in a commencement speech, i think alessandro ryan the student she was talking to that talking to that but your account or facebook account is not a social movement because it is important for communication. but if your going to have social movement come you have to put your body on the line. you have to do that

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it is the most powerful non-violent tool we have in democratic society. if we fail to use it, we're going backwards. >> congressman becerra, then i come back to you, barbara elaine talked about something that was critical, that is in so many cases communities of color vote for people first and policy second. >> yes. >> i don't often see candidate encue baittores that are looking for -- incubatetors. looking for young talent outside of the party system. i'm not sure about the work you're doing but how do we begin to, i don't just mean brilliant college students showing effective matriculation through undergraduate students and young people philosophize and on the block. and they care about something and we have the ability to take care of them and pull them in. how do we create candidate incubatetors and candidate incubators and see changes in state boards and mayors races? >> when you look at someone's office or the people that he or she hires i try to find a good person of minority background but they're not out there, or they don't come to me. i'm the c

effectively the right to elect the leader of what is effectively traditionally been a much more democratic type of society in hong kong? >> i think for two reasons. one is hong kong government is not on our side and the international community has not spoken up in our favor either. i think the international for us to speak up because both beijing and london appeal to international support where the joint decoration was announced in 1984. international community did give them its support. it is up to britain, up to the rest of the world to speak for the hong kong people and they have seen how lovable these otesters are, young and keen and peaceful. certainly the international community should speak up. >> mr. lee, our guest host has a question for you. > mr. lee, now you've had 15 years of this situation with three different chief executives. how happy have you been with the transition. or do we have this long time coming. the question with the chinese main land often says, after all hong kong people have never had democracy more than 150 years, why should they be changing now? what would you answer to tha