what's your solution for denby after the kids leave for better options? >> well, i don't know denby terribly well, but i was in philadelphia and i saw a school in the innercity of philadelphia, it looked like it had been built in the last five or ten years. i think it was k through eighth grade. and i understand that the school was closed down, that 90% of the kids were not reading at grade level. so the school was unsuccessful. a guy named kenny gamble, african-american, songwriter, got -- took the school over. put this place a charter school. and i went and toured the school with him. saw the students there. i went to a classroom where they were learn to go use computers and became computer literate. i went to a room where they were singing and they were in a glee qulu club. he said all the kids mart pay the in glee club. i said how do you afford music teachers, art teachers, computer classes. he said i run this like a business. this isn't impossible. s as i recall, almost 90% of the students there now are reading at grade level. and it's the same stude