conservative columnist deneen borelli, and chuck rocha back with me. jeb bush is trailing at fourth or fifth place, seems as if he settled into the second tier of candidates, is this a consequence of failing to inspire, the idea of a successful run? >> listen, as they say in the business world, deirdre, the trend is your friend. and jeb bush is not trending on the right side of the voters, especially grassroots voters. he is an establishment candidate, he has the establishment political name, bush. and this is an anti-establishment movement sweeping the country. people are tired of what they're seeing represented in washington today, he's on the wrong side of the trend. deirdre: so in this case, the last name and the connection to the family dynasty may be hurting him. but chuck, it seems as if he would have already spent something like more than 130 million dollars to have to make these moves, right? >> right, and he's being accountable to his donors, he wants the donors to keep giving and wants others to give. money is more than the mother's milk in