denis gutsaev denis petrovich hello. let's talk about investments in the environmental sector. how many are they still needed and what role do bonds play in this? the total amount of investments that will be required for the construction of infrastructure necessary to achieve the targets set by the presidential decree, and according to our estimates, about 500 billion are required . at the moment, from 130-140 billion have already been invested the end of the twenty -fourth year and for the second conditional five-year plan until the thirtieth year. it remains for us to test the second half in this regard. ugh naturally. in this respect green bonds are one of the most. ah, i would say a popular and sought-after instrument for investment in a-a infrastructure, at the present time. we have already placed on we have registered a 100 billion issue on behalf of the government. the lies were placed for more than 20 billion, and the bonds they were in rather high demand were received very well and, moreover, by different investors in this regard. it's not only. banal market participants are not only large banks, which we primarily focused on, but including private investment group and oddly enough, private investors. in this regard, we received 80 applications from various categories of investors for one of our issues, which rate was quite attractive. we are now operating on the market. this is higher than 11%, but at the same time, thanks to the amount of support that the government of the russian federation provides to the program to the investor, that is, the recipient of money, we bring the supply to an average of about 5%, which is more than two times less than the current market rate for raising money , what in in your plans in your plans is expanding the program we currently have more than 70 regions of russia are already cooperating within the framework of green bonds with us on the construction of infrastructure facilities. we are building e-ecotechnoparks within the framework of the federal cycle economy project and eight of these parks. we are going into the twenty -fourth year, at the moment the design work has been completed and from this month we will start construction. these sites will house enterprises for deep processing of waste. this is a logical continuation project, uh, related to the creation of infrastructure for waste, where you and i receive the selected fraction a within the framework of the circular economy from the fraction, we receive raw materials and raw materials, we receive new types of products and three enterprises each. and these tamparks will already be producing finished products from recycled materials, which we will be able to consume in this respect within the framework of normal economic turnover. now the state duma is considering the extended producer responsibility project, in principle, this has been talked about quite a lot, but i want to once again it is very important to focus the attention of the audience on why this project is so important and what changes it really brings to projects. i would say that it is probably the cornerstone for our industry. and like some. a while ago, the supervising deputy prime minister viktoria valerievna abramchenko, under whose leadership work was carried out related to changes in the institution of extended producer responsibility, as she said, this is probably one of the most complex uh laws in the environmental sphere at the moment, affecting a large quantity, and participants and interests, and it is precisely in this connection that we believe that the changes that were proposed by the government and supported by the president are currently in the duma, and we very much hope that our colleagues will consider it in the spring session, and it allows in this regard. i would say to restart the institution of extended producer responsibility by creating a full-fledged source of financing for the recycling industry, let me remind you everything that concerns the work of regional operators to call waste and sort waste. we have a present moment is covered by the tariff that citizens pay and this is 200 billion rubles, which the industry receives every year. but with recycling we have. it was more difficult, since the institution of extended producer responsibility did not actually work. we received about 4 billion rubles. the weather, which was not enough for investment in capital expenditures, not in the operating room and, let's say , a restart, but rather with the resumption of the extended producer responsibility institution. we believe that recyclers will receive a strong economic incentive to implementation of their projects. as for the exchange of best practices, a number of western countries agree. hmm, russia is ahead of russia, in particular , in terms of the disposal of solid municipal waste. you somehow. share this experience here, so that it would be as if on what best practices, and russia to be guided. well , as i understand it, the question is whether we are not isolated from the modern experience that the bicycle exists, if it has already been invented, you will agree. where it's invented, but for that matter no one interferes. we develop our own technologies in cases where the existing ones are not the most effective. and we see that our industry is young, not only for our country. our industry is young in general for the world, the world has thought about the problems of the anthropogenic impact negative from waste. not so long ago. unfortunately, now we see an aggravation of the situation due to the fact that the growth in the volume of waste was completely. uh, let's say unprepared in terms of infrastructure. not only in our country, but and in general around the world and those seventh continents of plastic waste that are currently being formed in the world's oceans. this is a waste, by the way, not so much of the russian federation, but actually of the countries of another part, er, hemisphere, and in this connection, in fact, with technology. we don't just exchange. in this regard, we are active active participants in the development of new ones, if we talk about them. pathological solutions where they were created, we have the opportunity up to the present moment use all the latest developments. in fact, they belong to a wide number of countries and do not refer only to those that do not want to cooperate with us in this regard. but with regard to new technologies, we are quite successfully developing our own, and this is also gratifying due to the fact that these technologies have rather serious e-e export potential. we discuss the possibilities, for example, in e. works in countries such as vietnam myanmar african countries. it's interesting for us including, as well as for manufacturers of the corresponding equipment. that is, it is not even about imports, but about this process of technology. this is absolutely true and i will repeat it again. this is not a so-called localized technology. and these are technologies that actually were, but were created either in the conscious on the territory of the russian federation and with their unique technological new regions quite actively we have now completed the development of two schemes out of four that we had to develop for each of the new regions, territorial schemes are a fundamental tool for the formation of infrastructure. we must understand. how much waste is generated, where they are generated, calculate the logistical routes and , in this respect, propose locations for the placement of relevant infrastructure facilities. the federal government has pledged enough, uh, serious financial resources for the implementation of these projects even after the completion of the territorial schemes. and this is the third quarter of this year. we will be able to start the first design project construction of relevant facilities in new territories. for waste, these are certain indicators, probably, of the success of re. and how are things here, if there are problems, which regions are the leaders, we had two main indicators of how effective the reform is, i would say. the first indicator is the service coverage of the population. we started with a figure in the region of 60%. now he is approaching 90. the second is the collection. e money, because it is clear that without a tariff without e-e, corresponding payments, the industry will not be able to exist and if we started with an indicator less than sixty, that is, it was in the region of 50%. it's actually not a workable system for , shall we say, planned e. planned work , at the moment we have e, above e, the average for russia is above 90 91 92%. and i repeat, with the collection of e money from the population with a tariff , the situation in this respect is quite good, but with extended producer responsibility. it was different in this regard, therefore, out of 211 objects that are currently built moment in russia 128 objects. these are processing facilities that are built with a source of return on investment in tariffs, and 49 facilities from recycling facilities, which in this respect are financed from the a of the so-called environmental fee authentication fee, expanded by all manufacturers and it is clearly quite clear that at the moment the pace is very lagging from the volume of construction of processing facilities, rio , how popular this service is in general. example we have 600 recyclers, which we see through the registry 282 regional operator of the participants of the trading platform, which we created a little more than six months ago, we have 850 currently trading volume, more than a billion. i believe that for a fairly young interaction tool in the industry. this is a good indicator. what are the tasks facing the russian environmental operator? well, let's say, the foreseeable prospects of the year. the first task is to keep it stable, despite all the turbulences in the economy that we have, we can say that they are not reflected in a negative way and the task in this respect to make sure that in the future, ah, the industry does not experience difficulties. second. ah, all these projects that were launched, including, uh, thanks to the support of both the president and the government. i mean regulatory support for the creation of the rules of the game, here are all the investment projects that have been launched, but at the moment. i'm not afraid to say we're in an investment boom. we need to complete them in the twenty-fourth year so that we achieve the target indicators that we have for the federal project. well, and most importantly, to make our life cleaner cleaner and greener here. well, i would probably also say that the main task is to change the behavioral culture. we must really ensure that each of us understands the difference between environmentally responsible behavior and environmentally irresponsible behavior. thanks a lot. let it be like that. let me remind you that the guests in our studio at the st. petersburg international economic forum. i was denishead of the russian environmental operator. and i i give the floor to our second studio and anastasia efimova continues to say the most important information initiative. today is the start day of the st. petersburg international economic forum, and next to me is vladimir saldo, acting governor of the kherson region vladimir vasilievich hello and, of course, the first question related to the kakhovka hydroelectric power station is the situation. now, as far as i understand , it was decided to declare an emergency situation there, moreover, on a federal scale , this state of emergency of the federal level, what does it give? what are the preferences? what opportunities opens up in order to eliminate the consequences? yes, this decision was supported today by a colleague of the ministry of emergency situations, the minister and hmm what he gives, well, before that last week. i signed my order, er, the introduction of a state of emergency, but it is local, that is, it is 15 km. the zone is