force that's going to be, as denis said, be the anvil in a combined arms operation, they're going to need an awful lot of help. >> let's talk about the forces size. mr. mcdonough said he had not taking the opportunity to read the op-said. how many forces do you think will have to be committed? >> right now, denis admitted we've got about 1400 personnel in iraq armed, armored, and the line has been going up. it's my estimation, john, that by the time all the dust settles, for the roles they forces have to play -- and i'm not talking about american combat maneuver units, but in terms of intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, logistics, advice, command and control assistance, tactical air control parties, look, i'm betting we're up close to 5,000 by the end of the year. >> you really had the quote of the week earlier when you were speaking with the publication in which you said, quote, the reliance on airpower has all of the attraction of casual sex. it seems to offer gratification, but with very little commitment. could you expand on your comments? >> sure. i'm 39 years an american airman, we're going to push the islamic state back with airpower. but i don'

with me is white house chief of staff denis mcdonough. thanks for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me, candy. >> these are very purposeful videos put out for public consumption, sending a message. how does the white house, what does the white house see that message to be? >> well, they're trying to communicate any number of things, i have to imagine, but this is what we are going to do, which is we are going to mobilize international coalition to take this fight to isil, to degrade and ultimately destroy them. that will be a coalition that includes not only our friends in europe and asia, but also our partners in the region, muslim states, sunni states, working with us to make sure that we make this a multinational effort that's one coalition. two, we're going to make sure that we're using our unique capabilities, air power, intelligence surveillance, reconnaissance and our training ability to make sure iraqi forces on one side and syrian opposition forces on the other side of the border can take the fight to isil. then we're

earlier i spoke to denis mcdonough. welcome back. >> thanks for having me. >> let me start with this issue of terminology. i asked the president last week about whether he was preparing the country for war. he pushed back, said this is not a war. he has not used the terminology war. and yet there seem to be this debate about semantics between the pentagon, josh earnest. why are you calling a war on isis and why has the president been hesitant to call it a war. >> you asked if he was preparing the country for war. he was preparing for this against isil. that's what we are doing. there was no debate between the white house and pentagon. you heard kerry, the pentagon and josh on friday under score that inasmuch as we have been at war with al qaeda, we are at war are isis. >> the democrats in general, you don't like to refer to these -- to this attack on al qaeda as a war. you didn't like the phrase war on terror. is that what this is about? >> well, no, chuck. you're confusing our position with a againization. this effort

the president's approach. >> in the interviews, denis mcdonough confirmed the beheading of a third aidr. mcdonough reiterated that the president's strategy to combat isis does not involve boots on the ground but that doesn't necessarily distract from their goal to destroy the terror group. >> i think we've been pretty clear on this and we'll continue to be clear about exactly what we're going to do and how we're going to do it and the disciplined fashion in which we will carry it out to make sure we degrade and ultimately destroy this menacing organization called isil. >> the white house also released a statement saturday condemning the murder saying "the united states stand shoulder to shoulder tonight with our close friend and allies in grief and resolve. we will work with the united kingdom and the broad coalition of nations from the region and around the world to bring perpetrators of this act to justice." some saw the white house needs to be doing more without organizing boots on the ground, they say the u.s. remains vulnerable. >> it is going to take an army to beat an army. this

you heard what denis mcdonough said about the iraqi forces. he said, they will -- the iraqi government will support a unified capable multiethnic iraqi force so they can take this force to isis. are they capable of doing that, those iraqi forces? you helped train them. >> i did help train them, and they're not ready yet, and i'm afraid they're not going to be for awhile. if we're going to make this thing happen any time soon, we're going to need american special forces "a" teams on the ground in combat advising those guys, not just in training camps but on the ground. that's i believe the key weakness of this strategy right now. >> and, steve ganyard, the president has said, said in his speech that this effort is more of a counterterrorism effort. he talked about yemen. he talked about somalia. is it different than that? >> well, i think we have a bit of a strategic mismatch here because isis is not al qaeda, isis is not a terrorist group. they present only a low-level threat to the homeland, and the department of homeland security says they a

. >> denis mcdonough, thank you for being here today. >> thank you, john. >>> and let's bring in general hayden, welcome back to "fox news sunday. "thank you for being with us. you heard what mr. mcdonough had to say about troops. do you believe at some point we'll have to have u.s. forces on the ground in some capacity in syria? >> well, i think we will at some point. the it might be through covert action rather than overt activity. the president referred to the syrian opposition just a few months ago as pharmacists and doctors and so on. we've turned on the dime in terms of our expectation for them, so if we are going to get them to the force that he said was fantasy to rely on to the force that's going to be in a combined operation, that i are going to need an awful lot of help. >> we'll talk about the size of the troop reports. mr. mcdonough did not read the op-ed earlier this week, how many troops need to be committed in this fight overall? >> right now, denis admitted we have 1400 personnel in iraq. i mean, armed, armored, wearing boots on the ground. and the line is going up. plus

we talk with white house chief of staff denis mcdonough about a u.s.-led war without u.s.combat troops. >>> then, what it will take to bring down isis and who can the u.s. trust to join the fight? two veterans of the war in iraq, retired major general paul eaton and retired general james dubik will join us. >>> plus on any given sunday it's about football. this woke, it's about violence against women. senator amy klobuchar and "the washington p s

. >> sreenivasan: appearing on the sunday talk shows, white house chief of staff denis mcdonough said the killing, the third of its kind documented on videotape in recent weeks, illustrates the brutality of the group. >> we were obviously painfully aware of their barbarity and their nefariousness even before this video, but this obviously underscores it yet again. >> sreenivasan: administration officials said today that american allies have offered to participate in airstrikes against islamic state fighters and expects some of them to volunteer ground troops to fight soon. those countries were not identified. but south carolina republican senator lindsey graham expressed strong doubt the administration's plan will work. >> there is no way in hell you can form an army on the ground to go into syria, to destroy isil without a substantial american component. our strategy will fail yet again. this president needs to rise to the occasion before we all get killed back here at home. >> sreenivasan: an article published today by the associated press says the islamic state is now earning $3 mi

white house chief of staff denis mcdonough was asked about that on sunday. >> as a father myself, i can only imagine the very difficult circumstances that the foley and the sotloff family are going through. my heart goes out to them. my prayers are with them, obviously. in terms of what was communicated to the families, in the midst of many, many meetings over the course of this very difficult circumstance, we obviously make clear what the law is. we didn't threaten anybody, but we made clear what the law is. that's our responsibility, is to make sure that we explain the law and uphold the law. >> so unlike other nations, the u.s. and great britain have very strict policies not to negotiate with terror groups. >>> pope francis is drawing praise this morning for the latest sign that he wants to make the catholic church more inclusive, more open. he married 20 couples in the first mass wedding at the vatican in 14 years. and even though the church considers sex outside of marriage a sin, one of the brides was already a mother. some of the other couples who said "i do" were also living tog

bring them to justice no matter how long it takes bob we'll talk to white house chief of staff, denis mcdonough, secretary of state. john kerry and head of homeland security mike mccaul. new york democratic senator kirsten gillibrand will be along to talk about her new book "off the sidelines" and she has lot to say about the crisis in the nfl. finally ken burns and his team will be here to preview the new pbs series "the roosevelts" an intimate history. 60 years of news because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs captioning sponsored by cbs good morning again this news from overnight is causing repulsion around the world as you might expect. we want to go first to cbs news correspondent charlie d'agata at the british parliament. >> good morning, bob, this morning british prime minister called emergency meeting to discuss the crisis, afterward he praised aid worker david haines calling him a british hero said that the british government would not back down in its fight against isis. >> we are a peaceful people. we do not seek out confrontation. but we need to understand we ca

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people say the president remains closest to denis mcdonough and valerie jarrett weighs in on a lot of issues. the speechwriter has a mind meld with him. whether susan rice is in that circle, i don't know. >> you have not mentioned john kerry, secretary of state. >> john kerry is not here very much. he is not, honestly. proximity matters. when i was working in the state department in the early years of the bush administration, colin powell was terrified to leave the country. >> that did not seem to bother henry kissinger. >> i think you see an erosion of trust and confidence. you also see this in the stories about the split between military leadership in the president. i think the president and his inner circle have been trapped by their political narrative of not wanting to be the bush administration. in that way being sort of captured by inaction. not all action is advisable. they've really been captured by inaction. i think there has been frustration at the top level there has not been more strategic vision. the redline debate with respect to syria, i am not sure the president reali

bring them to justice no matter how long it takes bob we'll talk to white house chief of staff, denis mcdonough, secretary of state. john kerry and head of homeland security mike mccaul. new york democratic senator kirsten gillibrand will be along to talk about her new book "off the sidelines" and she has lot to say about the crisis in the nfl. finally ken burns and his team will be here to preview the new pbs series "the roosevelts" an

furthermore, he phrased the question of success and on someday, the president's chief of staff denis mcdonoughan isil that can't accumulate followers or threaten muslim in syria, iraq or otherwise. that is a description of containment, which the president has disavowed. but that is how you define stuck session down. >> juan? >> well, i don't know that you can absolutely say that you destroy terrorism in the middle east or anywhere because it's an ideology and as we have seen, it's a malignant one, it spreads and sometimes to unexpected corners, including our own. but the idea is as the president said, decimate them. but the larger point here, from the news today is, that it seems that the president and general dempsey are in agreement that there may be situations in which you have to put boots on the ground and the president, according to dempsey says come back to me, especially in the case of mosul, where you're involved in urban hand to hand fighting guerrilla type warfare that requires a presence in order to defeat the enemy. i think that's the politics of it that's most interesting and tha

distinguished cabinet and worked with a white house chief of staff -- a white house staff ably led by denis mcdonough that has done much to make real the promise of our democracy. and each of the men and women who i have come to know will be lifelong friends. whatever my accomplishments, they could not have been achieved without the love, support and guidance of two people who are not here with me today. my parents, eric and miriam holder, nurtured me and my accomplished brother, william, and made us believe in the value of individual effort and the greatness of this nation. my time in public service, which now comes to an end, would not have been possible without the sacrifices too often unfair made by the best three kids a father could ask for. thank you, maya. thank you, brooke. and thank you, buddy. and finally, i want to thank the woman who sacrificed the most and allowed me to follow my dreams. she is the foundation of all that our family is, and the basis of all that i have become. my wife, sharon, is the unsung hero. and she is my life partner. thank you for all that you have done. i love you

on sunday, white house chief of staff denis mcdonough said the rice tape shocked president obama. >>we have talked generally about the situation in the nfl and the president was shocked by what he saw. let's put it that way. i do not want to characterize, ray ricenk we all know being suspended indefinitely seems to be the right thing. >> nfl commissioner roger calls to resign after his handling of the case. in a statement, a group said -- in the league news, nfl officials have acknowledged one third of retired players will suffer from long-term cognitive issues. the disclosure came in court documents on a settlement with retired players who accused the nfl of concealing the dangers of concussion. the obama administration has taken the unprecedented step of invoking the state secrets privilege to quash a private lawsuit. on friday, the justice department intervened in a case against united against nuclear iran, an advocacy group campaigning against sanctions for the government. the government said the case should be dropped because forcing the group to disclose its files would threate

but i predict that the event chul number -- >> samantha, take a listen to denis mcdonough,t@( about thatcific question, boots on the ground. >> the president's been clear that ground forces on the ground -- >> can you say there will never be an american troop on the ground in syria? >> i can say what the president's strategy is, what i have just outlined, which is that we using our unique capability. training, isr and enhancing and equipping any forces on the ground, this fight is every bit as much theirs as it is ours. >> so, steve, it wasn't an answer to that question, and let's be honest, they have to have some american issues on the ground, to coordinate air strikes on the ground. >> they have concewq 475 people over there in country, are going to be doing the work that we need them to be doing. they count as troops on the ground. i mean, to me it's sort of the semantic game that they're playing that's symbolic of the broader chaos in the strategy. there is no strategy, the president's going out of his way to avoid looking like a war president. he goes out of his way to say it wasn't

later this morning and she'll have much more on this breaking story including an interview with denis mcdonoughlater this morning on "this week" on abc. paula, over to you. >> we look forward to it. now to the nfl. rocked by two explosive scandals. the vikings' adrian peterson arguably one of the most talented players in the league charged with child abuse and ray rice released by the baltimore rainens seen on video punching his now wife making his first public appearance since that scandal. abc's ryan smith is here. good morning, ryan. >> good morning, paula. it's game day in the nfl. so many, though, talking about the nfl's growing problem with domestic violence of as ray rice garnered support with his family by his side, prosecutors laid out their case against star running back, adrian peterson, for allegedly beating his son. >> adrian peterson -- >> today, minnesota vikings star running back adrian peterson won't be in uniform as prosecutors claim he was criminally negligent in striking his 4-year-old son with a branch. >> we take all allegations of abuse against children very seriously. >>

distinguished cabinet and worked with a white house chief of staff -- white house staff, ably led by denis mcdonough. he has done much to make real a promise of our democracy and each of the men and women who i have come to know will be lifelong friends. whatever my accomplishments, they could not have been achest without the love, support and guidance of two people not with me today. my parents, eric and merriam holder nurtured me and my brother william and made us believe in the value of individual effort and the greatness of this nation. my time in public service which now comes to an end would not have been possible without the sacrifices too often unfair, made by the best three kids a father could ask for. thank you mia, thank you brook and thank you buddy. and finally, i want to thank the woman who sacrificed the most, and allowed me to follow my dreams. she is the foundation of all that our family is, and the basis of all that i have become. my wife sharon is the unsung hero, and she is my life partner. thank you for all that you have done. i love you. in the months ahead, i will leave depart

bring them to justice no matter how long it takes bob we'll talk to white house chief of staff, denis mcdonoughjohn kerry and head of homeland security mike mccaul. new york democratic senator kirsten gillibrand will be along to talk about her new book "off the sidelines" and she has lot to say about the crisis in the nfl. finally ken burns and his team will be here to preview the new pbs series

chief of staff denis mcdonough today described president obama's reaction to the video. >> we have talked generally about the situation in the nfl. the president was shocked, let's put it that way. >> i want to bring in kate fagan, espn-w columnist. give me your reaction. we got this a short time ago that greg hardy of the panthers wasn't going to play. what was your reaction? >> i think the panthers deserve as little credit as you can for making the move. what happened with greg hardy, he was convicted of domestic violence. he is appealing it. the panthers hid behind it until you have been officially convicted. the panthers don't have are to deactivate him, take action. i think their hand was forced yesterday when the vikings took swift action on adrian peterson with the charges of child abuse. they deactivated him even before he was convicted. at that point is when the panthers had to make a decision. i think greg hardy practiced on thursday, on friday. he walked into the stadium today thinking he was going to play. so panthers were forced into this by p.r., media pressure. they weren't

we talk with white house chief of staff denis mcdonough about a u.s.-led war without u.s.bat troops. >>> then, what it will take to bring down isis and who can the u.s. trust to join the fight? two veterans of the war in iraq, retired major general paul eaton and retired general james dubik will join us. >>> plus on any given sunday it's about football. this week, it's about violence against women.

i heard denis mcdonough says he wasn't threatn'ted. he wasn'tn't in themeetings. >> whoo would the white house do that to a family? >> we don't know. we didn't have a view into the white house. they met just once or twice with administration officials and a couple of follow-up phone calls. >> has the white house very the administration's attitude or communication or contact changed since the awful beheading of steven? >> we had two phone calls with the senior white house official. >> you actually spoke to steven the morning he was kidnapped. every time i look at the video and i refuse to look at the actual incident he's sitting there so stoically, no tears, no police, nochlgt what was he like and what was he the day he was kidnapped? >> he was one of the nicest people you would meet. he would say i don't need all this attention. focus it and channel it to the hundreds of thousands dying in syria and iraq. their story is not being told. he did not want the limelight shined on him. >> what was he thinking of the day of the kidnapping? >>

i met at the white house with his chief of staff, denis mcdonam mcdonough and other republicans who supportedhe president on that. the president made that request at the last minute. i publicly supported it. this year, i think what has changed is when people thought of chemical weapons in syria, they thought it was just people in syria that were going to be killed. now seeing the brutal executions of americans by isis is brought home to the american people how deadly, vicious and diabolical isis is. and that's brought pressure on the members of the congress. >> let me ask you about this so-called blank check. it's a fund the president has had in front of congress for about five or six months now. it's about $500 million -- excuse, $5 billion to fight terror. and many in congress have said, don't ask us for that amount of money without giving us specifics. do you think the unbelievable advance of isis and the crisis that it's presented has made the specifics a little less necessary now? >> i would think so. there's no reason that can't resolved. you're never going to get specifics down to ever

distinguished cabinet and worked with a white house chief of staff -- white house staff ably led by denis mcdonough. den has done much to make real the promise of our democracy. and each of the men and women i have come to know will be life-long friends. whatever my accomplishments, they could not have been achieved without the love, support and guidance of two people who are not with me here today, my parents nurtured and my accomplished brother william and made us believe in the value of individual effort and the greatness of this nation. my time in public service, which now comes to an end, would not have been possible without the sacrifices, too often unfair, made by the best three kids a father could ask for. thank you maya, thank you brooke, and thank you clay. and finally, i want to thank the woman who sacrificed the most and allowed me to follow my dreams. she's the foundation of all that our family is and the basis of all that i have become. my wife sharon is the unsung hero and she is my life partner. thank you for all that you have done. i love you. in the months ahead i will leave the d

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but again, in the white house, to day, i would probably say denis mcdonough, ben rhodes. >> let's talk about little bit about this new growth we're hearing about, khorasan. how do we say that? all of sudden this name surfaces. who are these people and where do they come from? >> this is the al qaeda senior leadership caravan that moved from afghanistan and pakistan into syria in part to take advantage of the chaos and breeding space that existed there. and in part to try to plan from syria attacks against the west. and so great reporting from bob orr, c about s news that broke the story. the reality is the group in most some ways lethal and focused on the west is not necessarily isis as we've been talking about though that's dangerous. it is this al qaeda group which not only is focused on the west but is linking other elements of the al qaeda constellation. linking master bomb-maker, and part of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula in yemen and linking other parts of the network. these guys are becoming a operational and strategic corps for the al qaeda universe and that is why the offic