mr denko is no longer minister of defence of romania. the point is this is only in october...on of romania, as was presented by the president of romania, you might quote him as well, is that the official position of nato and of the european union, is that the peace negotiations will start when ukraine will consider that it is fit to start. it took at least three days for your president and prime minister to actually back away from the comments from mr denko. why? back away? i don't think that they have endorsed these comments. no, that's what i'm saying. they didn't back away. they didn't deny the truth of his comments, and that being romania's... the position of romania is very clear. the position of romania was very clear always in that respect, and this is the position at the level of the european union and nato as well. this is the position. the definition of peace and win in ukraine belongs to the ukrainians because they are the victims of the aggression. if the ukrainians would like to start the negotiations, well, it's up to them. if they want to define what means peace

well, it's interesting you say that, because your own minister of national defence, vasili denko, heerview last autumn in which he said that, in his opinion, russia can sustain this war indefinitely, ukraine's only chance of achieving peace is to engage in negotiations with moscow. he said that, actually, he believed those negotiations should be handled by nato, by international partners of ukraine because he said it's going to involve concessions which the ukrainians themselves will find it very difficult politically to make... he is no longer minister of defence of romania. the point is this is only in october... the official position of romania, as was presented by the president of romania, you might quote him as well, is that the official position of nato and of position of nato and of the european union, is that the peace negotiations will start when ukraine will consider that it is fit to start. it took at least three days for your president and prime minister to actually back away from the comments from mr denko. why? back away? i don't think that they have endorsed these comm