in 182 one of the church's founders denmark veissi was caught trying to organize a slavery bell slave were executed. it was called the mother of emanuel church it continued to play a role in the civil rights movement. dr. martin luther king, jr. spoke there in 1962. i'm joined by south carolina state senator marlon kim -- kimpson. give us a sense of the historic importance that it was at this church with this mass set of executions was carried out. >> well, the fact that we had a shooting in a church americans woke up in great disbelief. there's a real sense of hopelessness a real sense of fourning, but ironically there's also a sense of encouragement. today at the prior vigil, there were people of all gender all races, all ages all committed to make race relations and concentrate on the things that divide as you priority in the state of south carolina. >> it isn't like one of these police situations is it? >> well no. because i can tell you i travel from columbia, the state capital, where i was in the general assembly yesterday during session, last night i went to the command center