mean "knock m off his pedestal" it's partly the campaign to produce the next share peer and in dennis kly, the author of "our mattel di d.a." which opened recently and is coming to new york next year i think we've produced a major piece of lyrical work in the work of david greg we have as well over the years three marvelous plays. in the other sense of knocking him off his pedestal, stopping seeing him... stop celebrating him as from... some nostalgic view of what englishness used to be and yearning back to it but actually to open him up and see what's ling in there. what's dangerous in there. >> rose: he can be a contemporary figure? >> he's appallingly contemporary. >> appallingly contemporary? >> just in the green room i was listening to your previous guests talking about what's happening in syria and afghanistan and the see ya/sunni split is dramatized and still alive in shakespeare's work live in an england ill shaking with the reformation between the new protestant rulers have more or le illegalized catlicism which was the religion for ages in britain and that conflict runs through