and dennis kucinich may not be part of the group. you know what?on't necessarily need every single one of them. >> bill: you will predict this about l. pass both house and senate. >> i'm more optimistic than you and laura. i don't think i'm going to like it. i don't think it's going to be a watered down so-so not such a great bill there is a pretty strong incentive. >> bill: i think it will pass the senate, it will not pass the house. and then it will be dead. let's assume that i'm right, as as i so often am. >> occasionally. >> bill: how much damage dots this do to president obama? >> i think it hurts him. i think if the chief legislative plank of his platform this year was health care reform and he doesn't get anything through. >> bill: is he very, very damaged. >> he is not running for re-election. >> bill: well, his guys are running next november. >> i think it's damaging politically. >> bill: let's assume you are right as you so seldom are and he does ram it through. >> right. >> bill: the public still says 65%, 60%. >> right. >> bill: we hate

conyers: i yield to the gentleman from ohio, dennis kucinich. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. kucinich: i rise in opposition. three provisions being extended today include the roving wiretaps which allow the foreign intelligence surveillance court to wiretap any target without having to specify the target or the device. this extension also includes the long wolf surveillance provision which allows intelligence agencies to conduct investigations of non-u.s. individuals not connected to a foreign power or terrorist group, a provision that the administration has never had to use. finally, this legislation would extend section 215, powers of the patriot act, which allows the government to order any entity to turn over any tangible things as long as it specifies the foreign authorized investigation. section 215 and orders -- constitutes a serious violation of first and fourth amendment rights, to deny access to records, also associated with the exercise of first amendment rights such as library records. to use a documentation

host: he talked about efforts with dennis kucinich. are those likely to get any traction?that would require a restructuring of the social security in order to bring the eligibility age down. i just saw the other numbers today, people who are because of a lack of pension are taking it early. you get a lot less money per month when you take it early. i think that is a real sign of the economic pressures and absence of pension that people are not able to hold out until 65 and get the full value of their work and their contribution. host: next up is naples, florida, republican collar. i punched up the wrong line. let's go to elizabeth in naples, florida. caller: obama has been pulling the wool over our eyes for a long time because in the beginning when he was campaigning he said he was going to take public funds and then at the last minute he changed it to private funds. this is what he has been doing all along. if he would stay to his agenda and do what he is saying, the problems would not be so put out right now. i think everything he has been doing, and right now, if he sta

host: he talkedç about a specic idea from dennis kucinich. is it likely to gain any traction?ring the eligibility age down. i just saw the numbers, the number of people who because of a lack of pension are already taking social security or early when they can take it at 62 ratigan 65, which is a significant -- you get a lot less money per month when you take it early. i think that is a real sign of the economic pressures and absence of pension that people are not able to hold out until 65. host: naples, florida, elisabeth -- i punched the wrong line. . if he starts focusing on health care bill, he should also put it over state lines. if he had a deal with insurance companies -- and in florida, there are only three insurance companies. they are just going to get more wealthy, and the cost will not be contained. guest: a couple of interesting points. i will pick up on one, and i think this will be part of the republican response to health care, selling policies across state lines. clearly, that is the alternative out there. i think it is pretty clear that if we did that, some st

. -- by dennis kucinich.urn. so i went out and bought another new pair of shoes and in 2006, started knocking on doors in the snow in the february and did 19,6079 doors. -- not on approximately 19,6079 doors. [applause] i wore out 3 pairs of shoes and with the help of people like yourselves, people who believe in freedom, who believe that families and businesses should keep more of their hard-earned dollars and they get enough to the government [applause] knocking doors, standing on doorsteps, licking envelopes, i was able to get elected. [applause] when i got down to columbus, the state house, i decided i was not there to keep my mouth shut and i was not there to bite my time. i was there to stand on principle and i have been proud to be a leader at are state house. i'm proud to stand with people, including legislators like jimmy stewart and others to stand for these principles and advocate for these principles and of our state and our country for into it with a lot of young people by our side. [applause] a