dennis kucinich agrees.you say it makes sense. >> i think as i remember, i might be wrong, i think 1725. i did quick matthew math, you paytivity 50,000 in tax you have 46,000 a year in cost of living in washington. one of the highest cost of living. you know, i am not a millionaire, i served 16 years in congress, i understand what happened if someone comes from ordinary background you get there, and unless you are a millionaire you are have two homes, and family, they are not living high on the hog some members of millionaires got that unless you just' millionaires or more represents people have you you have to pay. neil: you make a good point. most of congress is stacked with millionaires. they are doing well. and i know many who you know, share row houses in district because they have homes back home. they save money sleeping in the office. what bothers a lot of americans what are i doing for me for that money. >> that is the bottom line. you and i agree on that. but, i would tell you someone who spent 16

if you have to stretch to nine, 10, 11, 12 candidates so you can get ron paul and dennis kucinich and jim gilmore and all these guys in there, basically, the tendency has been to do it, right? that's how our system works. err on the side of inclusion. that's how our system works. until now. because this year, there is a real problem if this is going to continue to be our system. the system cannot hold this year. in the last cycle, 2012, the republican party thought they had a pretty good chance of making barack obama a one-term president. they thought they had a shot to beat him. they did not. part of that they blame on their candidate, mitt romney and the general election campaign that mitt romney ran. but the party believes they had a flawed process in 2012 that led to choosing their nominee and that hurt the republican party's chances overall of beating president obama no matter who they chose. specifically, they think they had too many debates in 2012. the republican primary in 2012 involved almost two dozen debates. 23 debates by most counts.. and they started really early. the f

at his best, he channeled -- and dennis kucinich saying that the race should not be about sniping but real issues. senator sanders: i believe in a democracy that elections are about serious debates with serious issues, not political gossip, not making campaigns into soap operas. this is not the red sox versus the yankees. this is a debate over major issues facing the american people. mark: how will bernie's style play? should he really try to keep the media focused away from the clinton soap opera? al: yeah, i think he has to because that will happen no matter what he does. bernie does not do warm and fuzzy. we know that. and i think, given his message i think the style he brings probably is an asset. i think people -- we talked about it several times in this segment, he is authentic. i think authenticity is his calling card. mark: we have had tons of candidates saying i do not want this campaign to be about style, i want it to be about issues. i think he demonstrated a good ear about shaming the press and saying, you know what? this is about serious things. he says he won't run negat

. >> host: and of course, no department of peace that people like dennis kucinich tried so hard to get for many years. >> guest: right. we have to use institute for peace which i admire and have written about but congress demanded by not funding adequately. >> host: what about rotc on campus is and your involvement in opposing that? >> guest: well i think a school at georgetown where i teach, i teach at the law school, a teach undergraduate there. they have rotc programs. these are catholics, notre dame is the biggest one in the country percentagewise. boston college, all these jesuit schools, and here price was a pacifist. he preached nonviolence. how can that be? i'm waiting for the pope to see whether he ever comes out and tells catholics you are forbidden to go into the military. he is nowhere near saying that. >> host: you live in d.c. i could see if you had these views and you lived in ann arbor, michigan, four you lichtenberger, a in the nation's capital and are surrounded by the military contractors. you are surrounded by basis and get you say things like you want to figure cou

first of all, i think dennis kucinich was right in 2008 that hillary clinton should not be the next presidentat he was getting at and even in his comments is she has a problem of disclosing information. and hillary's scandals the e-mail gate and benghazi are potentially bigger than bill's scandals because the average person understands what they're about, and in a more obvious, direct way. the impeachment scandal, a lot of people dismiss that as a mere indiscretion. whitewater whitewater a land deal. what does that mean? no one understood what whitewater was about. hillary's scandals are in a different magnitude. with the e-mail gate there is a show me the server argument. what that is about fundamentally is an effort to avoid accountability. benghazi is a dereliction of duty. those are both scandals of a great magnitude, i would caution republicans to not rely too heavily on scandal, going into 2016 and i don't think our candidates are going to do that. we made those mistakes in the past. in 1998 there was a famous exchange where my old boss went to newt gingrich and said we need to mobilize

it kept dennis kucinich off some of the debates, completely within their power to do that.n: did you have any discussions with him about that choice and did you give him any advice? >> bernie sanders does not answer my calls. 15 years, he is never answered a telephone call, never reply to a letter, never replied to a meeting that i want to go down and see him. i even had to write in article on this called "bernie, we thought we knew ye." one of the problems he is going to face other than his good graces in vermont, is that he doesn't have good political antennae. he doesn't have political social graces. he is going to have to change that. a lot of friends have told me that is a problem. most progressive senators don't really respond to any progressive group that tries to push him to do more than they want to do. i wrote nine letters to nine progressive senators like sherrod brown, elizabeth born, bernie sanders saying, look, your lone rangers doing good things but you're going nowhere. so what are you get together into a caucus of 9, 10, 12 senators in the senate and push y

my question is why are cities and states adopting the dennis kucinich act of 2001?hy is that still in existence? why is social security given to people who are being torchedtured and -- if the preservation act is a true thing? host: this is jimmy in florida another independent. jimmy: i just got a comment with the question. i think i kind to figure out the republican campaign strategy. we all seem to know the republican party represents the party of exceptionalism, which represents whirtete america. not the view of all immigrant countries, what unites us as america. my strategy, you know they got latinas, they got black, and a female, but they all got the same republican agenda. they are in bed with big money. it has corrupted this government. we need government. to keep civil order. without government, there is no reason for our capitalism, free market to exist within the boundary lines without overstepping the smaller worker, the low wenend wage worker. the one that produced all the wealth or receive. my my question is, is it me or am i being too cynical figuring