i would say the last straw really happened within the laek two it is when dennis muillenberg was lledington, d.c. for a face-to-face meeting stth e dixon, the head of the faa. make mo mstake, this wasn't a friendly discussion. in very straightforward waysout that boeing was no longer calling the shots or should not be expected to call the shots in terms of when the 737 max would be recertified. this was aublic dressing down. th was boeing middle east afterwards saying weake back any gins we had previously issued that the max mht be recertified this year, that it might be in commercial service the end of janauary and t, remember, it was just four days later that boeing made the decision to completely suspend 737 max production starting in january. that is a mondeumentaision. something the company has never done, and those two -- those two events toether, going to washington, being dressed down by the head of the faa, along with suspending 737 max production, that was the final they realized they had to make a change, and they did. >> and what brought us to that point? was his departure