. >> i think dennis ocren does an excellent job of reviewing prohibition, you don't pay on a 1:1 way- but that's not an argument to keep the prohibition going. there's all kinds of reasons why we should end the prohibition. >> let me throw a reason at you. it's hard to talk about drugs in american without race and the race issue and the disproportionate impact it's had. i want. basically african-americans, white folks use them at about the same rate, but when you look at the arrest rate, it's astronomically higher for african-americans. doesn't that bother you? >> it sure does. >> if you continue to insist as we are, relying on criminalization, how do you deal with these kinds of numbers? >> first of all, that criminal justice system is dysfunctional, insofar as it needs a major correction, and if we think we're going to solve it just on the drugs issue, african-americans, other minorities are sentenced to more time, no matter what the crime is, so let's make -- just to division this being an issue that is the panacea for all injustice. >> let me throw something at you. i'm concerned