with that, i would like to call up on a couple of folks who are here to present, i see captain dennis oleary but i know that lieutenant from the angle side station is here so if i could ask him to please come up. >> and again, lieutenant as i noted in my remarks, one of the challenges that we have faced is the fact that it has been enforce a bubble ordinance. one of the questions that i have is always, you know, how do you know the bubble ordinance provides protective space for eight feet around the individual. but how do you know what is eight feet? what is 7, what is 6 feet? but i am wondering if you talk a little bit about your experience and the experience of the police department in terms of the enforcement. >> good morning, i'm lieutenant wering with the police department and i work out of engleside, i am here representing the district station captain and just to answer your questions about the bubble ordinance, where the challenge has been for us, is the way that the ordinance is written, the language can be a little confusing in terms of where the actual eight feet began, is it with