navigate the quote challenges presented by the pandemic. joining us now to disgust is captain dennis pedro the communications committee chairman of the allied pilots association. cavities are always a pleasure to have you on these important issues. now, breakdown these complaints here, when it comes to dealing with a global health crisis, like the over $900.00 pandemic, does the airlines still need to negotiate policy with the union? lastly and just to be clear, represent the american airlines, but we're having the same issues in american airlines. so sure they have to negotiate with the union. but the most important thing is, is that the management team, it appears it's southwest based on their operational performance. and at american airlines airline i work for, they were not prepared for this massive, quick recovery after the pandemic. so for them to just say that, well, it's, it's recovery the pandemic you can't use as an excuse. and this is not just about maintaining your contract, is maintain the certainty of your operation. when you just start making things up in an airline operatio