♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: dennis rodman! you can't beat dennis rodman.lcome to the show. can i just add, where have you not been for the last six months? i see you everywhere. you're hanging out with kim jong-un. >> well, not with carmen electra. >> jimmy: yeah, no. no, that's true. that's true. that's true. >> that was a guy, right? that was a guy. >> jimmy: that's somebody else. yeah. >> she needs the money. she needs the money. she needs the money. [ cheers and applause ] sorry. sorry, guys. >> jimmy: i got to talk to you. i gotta talk to you about last night. so, i'm watching the apprentice. of course you're my favorite dude. so, every time i see you do something, i go, "i love dennis rodman. 'cause i think that one day he's just gonna walk into trump and go like, 'i'm leaving. you ain't gonna have a chance to fire me 'cause i'm gonna go, so you're fired.'" and then, just fire him. and then, i was like, "this is dennis rodman's 'celebrity apprentice,'" which i would watch. but you lasted -- you outlasted omarosa. you threw omarosa off. america's vill

dennis rodman is one way that they are trying, whatever dennis rodman was thinking, we will never know what the north koreans were thinking, what pyongyang was thinking is we're going to use this guide to fool the west, as they speak i would say not only to fool the west, i think of the corollary, the soviet union, when somebody would go over there and have a photo op, that is served to prop up the regime. and my understanding is that prisoners in the gulags would suffer when that happened, when someone would speak out heroically, as reagan did a couple of times, their situation would improve. so it seems to me that rodman was used, but i guess another question, just because i'm interested in our own administration, our own government's role, what did not have known he was going over there? what did not have at least had to give some tacit approval to this? getting up there? i was just stunned that this could even occur. >> you have to have a visa. i don't know. i don't know how he went, what he went through china or some other third country. i really don't have any insight. >> can you

thrive. >>> dennis rodman and the north korean leader watched basketball together and ate sushi in februarycountry loves him. love him. guess what? yes, yes, i love him. i love him. the guy is awesome. >> rodman was there for a hbo series. well, you know, it's hard to -- when i heard that dennis rodman was going, i couldn't believe it. i don't know about you, you can't make this kind of stuff up. >> he wanted michael jordan. michael jordan, perhaps, wisely decided not to go. >> he declined. >> you know this partly tells you is this 29-year-old boy is not running national security strategy. the guy is a few months in the job. there is a military

citizen, the retired nba star, dennis rodman. they watched basketball together. they ate sushi in february. >> his country like him -- not like him, love him. love him. guess what? i love him. i love him. the guy is awesome. >> rodman was there for an hbo series. fareed zakaria is a producer for "vice" which is part of our sister network, hbo. i don't know about you, but you can't make this stuff up. >> you can't make this up. he wanted michael jordan. michael jordan decided not to be part of it. >> he declined. >> partly this tells you to add to the complexity of the story, this 29-year-old boy, kim jong-un, is probably not running national security strategy. the guy is a few months in the job. this is a military dictatorship. he's fully in control of basketball policy for north korea, but national policy is probably being controlled by a senior general. >> he's the son of kim jong-il, the grandson of the founder of north korea, so the power he has potentially is enormous. >> enormous and it unifies the country and it keeps the regime intact. but probably behind

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. >> neither does dennis rodman.[laughter] >> but it is coming, we have cases that we discussed in our book about north koreans being shot summarily executed for being found in possession of a viable. families to three generations being put in their detention camp system because they have been revealed to be christians. it is the worst repressive country in the world. then you have five, only five churches there as one of our cases said, they are all fake. they are there for western benefits. they are there to fool the west. but, you know, this is going on in china, into a lesser extent but they have moved to a more regulatory system where we fight up the world, put come as countries become more involved international trade, they become more self-conscious about human rights, and they take, they don't use, we are not seeing so much the brutal message as we've seen in the past. in a place like china, pastors increase may be put in weather cams but they also just is like to be put into retirement homes for detention. a

this leads at least me inevitably to dennis rodman or north korea. you and your book talk about the horror of north korea. when the generally misguided dennis rodman in m estimation went over there. i thought two things. it's like jane phone data sit -- phone data sitting on the gun. i would love to be corrected. it struck me that this was a way to prop up a murder use regime committing some of the worst atrocity along the line which you've described in your book. what is your perception of that? do you think that our state department could have done anything to prevent this where they knew about in? i frankly was so stunned especially since north korea, you know, there's gray areas and north korea. so what do you think about that? what do you think of the role one plays in doing things like that? , i mean, reaching out in that way, as it seems to me. misguided. naive. can anything good become of it? >> let me comment on the situation in north korea and refer to my copanellists to say what to do about it. but the north korea is probably the worst pla

, and inviting dennis rodman over for dinner, partying it up, whatever they were doing, and the next day he's threatening south korea, japan, the united states. >> it's more than weird, it's actually very troubling that the united states of america, the super power does not have any personal relationship or personal insight into this very troubled adversary, north korea. there's no diplomacy, no face-to-face engagement, no nl. when you hear the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff saying that this is what makes it so difficult and difficult to read, because we don't have -- >> what should the obama administration be doing? >> there should be more diplomacy. >> like what is this. >> engagement. whoever thought, you know that the united states relies mostly on china. in other words, the united states currently is outsourcing its most critical issues, let's say iran on one hand but also north korea. right now to china. i've spoken to you as officials whose job it is to deal with this, and they are hoping beyond hope, fingers crossed, that china will use its leverage to bring kim j

, as saying, as dennis rodman recently says. talking about how kim jong-un wants a call from the president. or maybe you should take him to a basketball game. that's not going to happen. but i think you'll see a real diplomatic push. >> we're watching this week. martha raddatz tonight, thank you. >>> now, the family tragedy for pastor rick warren. last night, we reported on the suicide of his son, matthew. the son of the pastor had long suffered from depression. across the country, a conversation about the millions of american families caring for loved ones who are battling the same thing. here's abc's clayton sandell. >> reporter: even before his son's suicide, pastor rick warren had taken this weekend off from his southern california megachurch, coincidentally choosing this sermon topic, what to do on the worst day of your life. >> even before rick knew what they would be facing at the end of the week, he is thinking this is what we need to hear. >> reporter: warren's 27-year-old son, matthew, took his own life friday night, i

ask your health care provider about novolog® flexpen today >>> dennis rodman and the north korean leaderi in february. his country loves him. love him. guess what? yes, yes, i love him. i love him. the guy is awesome. >> rodman was there for a hbo series. well, you know, it's hard to -- when i heard that dennis rodman was going, i couldn't believe it. i don't know about you, you can't make this kind of stuff up. >> he wanted michael jordan. michael jordan, perhaps, wisely decided not to go. >> he declined. >> you know this partly tells you is this 29-year-old boy is not running national security strategy. the guy is a few months in the job. there is a military dictatorship. he is full fli control of basketball policy for north korea. but national security policies probably being controlled by very senior generals. >> he is the son of kim jing i will. >> it unifies the country and keeps the regime intact. but probably behind the scenes there are people actually pulling the strings which makes it more kblikt complicated. >> where do you see this going, bottom line? >> i think they will be

because dennis rodman is his only friend. >> jimmy: not a bad idea.ilding. >> we could bomb them. we could think of it as south korea with more parking. >> jimmy: we're going to take a break on that note. bill maher is here with us. be right back. >> do you have what it takes to be a miller time intern? go to miller time internship for more. billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy -- and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp. we

dennis rodman is visiting his pal kim kim kim jong-un in august. he says, quote, we have no plans really as far as we're going to to -- we have to -- have i to read that again. we have no plans really as far as what we are going to do over there, but we will just hang and have some fun. i love it when people just hang. although in north korea it could mean something different. he is also not too stressed about the little leader's increased bellowing. quote, the russians were way out there and acting on their threats. he just wants to be loved. he just wants to sit down and talk, that's all. that's sweet. you tbhoa is blissfully unaware of north korea's rhetoric? this puppy. >> i don't want you to -- >> he might be okay. >> he got. it. >> you got it. >> that was absolutely amazing. it was probably one of the greatest things we have ever seen. and all you needed was a bowl and a dog. a bowl and a dog. people spend millions of dollars and all you really need is a bowl and a dog. we will be right back. no, joel rodman going to north korea. should we be

>> huge thank you to dennis rodman for delivering that message. i think the president has expressed a willingness to have direct conversations with north korea. but those need to be constructive and they can't be in the context of these absurd threats and this propaganda and continued nuclear development, continued test of ballistic missile technology. whenever you combine long-range missile technology and efforts to develop nuclear capabilities, that's something to take seriously. the administration recently announced they'll put 14 more ground based interceptors on the west coast and additional radar capability in the region. there are additional military ships in the region. so this is something we're well prepared for. i don't think your viewers should worry there's an immediate homeland threat. because the north koreans haven't tested some of the weapons to give them that capability. >> everybody stand by. i want to go to the white house right now. our correspondent once again is standing by. so are they worried at the white house about this

said that was outrageous because dennis rodman.t against the americans to say, look, dennis rodman loves me. okay? so that's exactly what the cuban regime did with this. beyonce and jay-z cuba. they use it against people who make less than $20 a month. if the system is going to change then i'm for opening. but not until then. >> there is pervasive racism there against blacks. >> you can point something out? when fidel castro is running the place and his brother raoul, whatever he was, one of his chiefs in the government, he was more market -- he was a free market kind of guy. he was pushing cuba towards better trade with countries that didn't want to do -- >> jay-z says in this rap that is basically saying whatever he is saying to republicans and he talks about the administration and i'm going to commit a crime that's more important than that. you would never be able to say that in cuba. and the political dissidents in cuba deserve somebody better than jay-z and beyonce who go there on a glark if you are going to auto go to a commu

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>> let's talk to dennis rodman about that. we don't know anything about this kid, and he is not behaving rationally. >> i think it's a def con issue potus pays it forward. the president of the united states announced this week he will take a 5% pay cut in his presidential salary. what's mr. obama's pay? $400,000 a year. this is income, and it is subject to standard income taxation, and those taxes are due april 15th, roughly a week from now. sequester cuts worth $85 billion to the vend this september, and 1 boy 2 truly i don't know over a deck kid have settled in slowly so far. the president's salary is exempt from sequestration. that is the forced budget cuts that automatically cut federal spending on march 1. everyone is taking a hit. white house visitor tours are closed. so are certain local air- traffic control towers. federal agencies will come under further strain in the coming weeks. certain u.s. government departments are expected to close on certain days, and then sequestration impact the economy full force, and that

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the guy worships dennis rodman. >> well dennis rodman knows more about him than anybody.hat's the freaky -- >> that's the freaky part. he has state secrets he should be divulging. and he is on "the uh -- the apprentice." >> like he could remember. >> i am done. >> that you are, andy. go away to wherever you go for the remaining 20 or 25 minutes of this show. i don't want to know what he does, frankly. whatever it is, it is disgusting. coming up, i don't want to close my eyes. i don't want to fall asleep because i'd miss you, baby, and i don't want to miss a thing. just something bill hemer scrawled on my car in lipstick. i need a restraining order. first what does snoop think about gays and rap? i guess i will ask him when i get home. i i i- >> does working with me mean being discreet? snoop lion said don't hold your breath. it was asked if frank coming out would pave the way for others to which snoop said it's acceptable in the world but in the rap world, i don't know if it will ever will. rap is so masculine. you can't be in a rook r locker room and then say dude, i lik

but regardless, dennis rodman can tgo to north korea, but jayz and beyonce can't go to cuba?no problem with the multi-tattooed, multi-pierced dennis rodman going to the mysterious to see kim jong-un and walk around and be in the skies company. yet, beyonce and jay-z can't go to cuba on a vacation to celebrate their anniversary? i mean, to me, martin, this is sort of, you know, one more battle in the ongoing sort of proxy war with president obama. >> okay. well, angela, to that point, beyonce and jay-z are two very high-profile supporters of this president. i have to ask you, angela, does that have anything to do with this subjection to them going to cuba? >> it very well could, martin. >> it very well could? >> i'm just saying. you know, i'm trying to give the republicans the benefit of the doubt. it's a little bipartisan olive branch for them. here's the thing. when you look at the most severe consequence here, we're talking about a trip that maybe wasn't approved, so then we're talking about a fine that's up to $250,000 for each of them. hello, they're one of the richest hi

did you get any kind of access like dennis rodman got to this guy? >> no. rodman got a lot better access than myself and eric schmidt. we got access to high level officials in the foreign ministry and other areas, but we didn't meet kim jong un. i don't think they want to meet with officials. i think they want to hide him for a while. what is happening two and a half years ago? i did not meet with kim jong il at the time, but i did meet with a number of people who seemed to be moderating not just their rhetoric but they stopped responding to south korea, and things cooled down. >> remind me the purpose of your most recent trip? two and a half months and the rational for taking mr. schmidt along? >> three purposes. one we have an american detainee there that we wanted to get out. secondly, we were urging the north koreans not to have an underground nuclear test, to stop the missile launches. and third, whatter rick schmidt wanted to do is talk about the advantages of the internet. he was the rock star on that trip. the north koreans loved him. th that. >> you

dennis rodman. [ ding ding ] [ applause ] >> stephanie: i was saying what did you do, dennis rodman?ere talking about like freaky [ bleep ] you used to do with carmen electra. what has upset them? that has made the situation worse. there are a lot of retired chicago sports people that might have been better. his airness michael jordan. >> michael jordan not crazy. >> refrigerator perry could have sat on him. something, people. that's the sound of kim jong-un -- being sat on by the refrigerator fairy. >> stephanie: he wasn't in the greatest shape in the '80s. >> now he's a walk-in freezer. >> stephanie: i believe he's selling barbecue sauce if i'm not mistaken. he must have some free time with which he could have done better diplomatic work than dennis rodman. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] jim, i begin because it all goes with the theme with a guest quote in honor of this weekend. who said if by liberal they mean someone who looks ahead, not behind someone who welcomes new ideas, someone who cares about the welfare of the people, their jobs and civil liberties if that's what you mean by li

, and inviting dennis rodman over for dinner, partying it up, whatever they were doing, and they he's threatening south korea, japan, the united states. >> it's more than weird, it's actually very troubling that the united states of america, the super power does not have any personal relationship or personal insight into this very troubled adversary, north korea. there's no diplomacy, no face-to-face engagement, no nl. when you hear the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff saying that this is what makes it so difficult and difficult to read, because we don't have -- >> what should the obama administration be doing? >> there should be more diplomacy. >> like what is this. >> engagement. whoever thought, you know that the united states relies mostly on china. in other words, the united states currently is outsourcing its most critical issues, let's say iran on one hand but also north korea. right now to china. i've spoken to you as officials whose job it is to deal with this, and they are hoping beyond hope, fingers crossed, that china will use its leverage to bring kim jong-un i

didn't they clear this up with kim jong-un with dennis rodman's visit there?y should we take this comedians? >> i will say, kim jong-un has a pretty sweet mushroom cut. and he has bad 90's hair, and if there is anyone who understands bad 90's hair is dennis rodman. >> i think this is a script for kim jong-un to star in for the next propaganda film for north korea. >> that's what scares me lee because in folks at home back me up on this. if this is ought bluster at what point is he going to have to put up or shut up. and prove to the five families that he's a real corleone. >> he already won the first round in i heard the harlem harlem globetrotters were over there and they tied. >> we only have a few seconds left. we all mock kim jong-un but is this something that we need to take serious? >> yes, this is something that we need to take seriously. but also when we created nuclear weapons we couldn't have thought we would only be the only ones. >> john: jeannine, what is your take. >> i'm neurotic. when i hear nuclear weapons i think it's the end. i think we shou

had a most colorful cultural attache as if things couldn't be more strange, dennis rodman knows more kim jung un than the c.i.a. ♪ ♪ you would never thing a dude with all that skin graffiti could negotiate a treaty with a dude who wears size 3 elevator shoes. i got the diplomatic layup blues. rodman's got his share of haters and kim jung un is a little baby, though he may be one of the crazier dictators, he just wants obama to call me maybe. ♪ ♪ to hear the one described as there's meeting of the minds wasn't nothing but a thank ♪ ♪ so to that presumption i won't subscribe, it was a miracle what went on in pung yang. rodman is like u tant except with body pierces. he ain't exactly henry kissinger. he prevents that crazy midget from slam dunking us with nues. >> imus: i like the way he worked in call me maybe. pretty hip. >> got to be like today's headlines. >> imus: you ought to see dagen when you come to work. >> today was really bad. >> imus: she's got her dress on and underneath, a pair of greasy sweatpants and her hair in wal-mart, moon pie rollers. >> soup cans. >> and i hideous

the only guy who has been there is dennis rodman. who the hell knows what he said. he may have said i hate the knicks build a bomb. we don't know. >> i know. >> jon: people say if they are paranoid people does talk to them would they trust a treaty if we signed with it them? how do you make -- >> anything else they want they tell me when i go. i've been there three times. if they want a peace treaty with the united states, we've not had a peace treaty yet. we had a cease fire at the end of the korean war. >> jon: he suspended that by the way. no longer was the cease fire in operation. >> he suspended the cease fire with south korean -- south korea which they never have had. >> jon: i have to go back and wash mash because -- [laughter] >> they had a peace treaty between them and the united states. >> jon: don't you think even china who has been in many ways the power behind the craziness. they've become slightly fed up with this regime and are no longer backing them to the same extend that they were and doesn't that remove really any of their protection? >> i think s

here's what dennis rodman said in march after his visit to north korea. >> he want obama to to one thing. call him. >> he wants a call from president obama? >> yeah. he said if you can, dennis i don't want to do war. i don't want to do war. he said that to me. >> reporter: obama was reluctant to deal with them during his first term. now that he's started his second term they're hoeing he will change his position. i'm a little bit worried about one thing. kim jong un's predecessors have experienced war, but he hasn't because he's too young. so he might expect to get results by using force. but the threats from pyongyang could wiped down at the end of this month, when the u.s. south korea drills finish. north korea is focusing on july 27th. the anniversary of the armistice that ended the korean war in 1953. officials announced they were nullifying the armistice. this sounds like a threat to provoke south korea and the united states. it's unclear what they will gain with this series of threats. >> a u.s. veteran has finally come face-to-face with a south korean woman he saved during the kor

one more, dennis rodman making the news.sketball player says he is heading back to north korea in august to hang and have some fun. also says that he just wants to be loved and said down and talk. do you think you will help talking of the ledger? do you think he will make it worse? >> i think if we are going to bomb north korea that will be a great time to do it. melissa: in august. >> when he is there. melissa: and let you said that and not me. >> it's a little -- i mean, why? and the only reason he is going there, it has come out that he was a bulls fan when he was in college. they follow the bowles. so dennis rodman. twelve yea ago. >> go into a whole thing up. he will take care of the whole thing. melissa: one more real quick. new study confirms that men have a tough time reading women's emotions. to understand other men's feelings in remember similar moments of their own lives. clearly they cannot do the same when it comes to understanding women. are you surprised? >> not in the slightest. >> not at all. >> and never su

dennis rodman was brought over because he is apparently a basketball fan for his time as a student. that he needed to open up and build this economy. the chinese don't want to have said -- to subsidize the failed regime. , webest that we could tell are guessing to some degree is that there was a big fight internally. said, you can't do what the chinese did because if we open up our country, it will expose it to the kind of political instability that china had some years ago. the military understands that if the people who have suffered under this regime, if they see what happened in south korea, the level of living and the standards of health care, all the things that are taken for granted, the no. 3 in population would go crazy. the military wants to wall off this country. it was traditionally more korean over the centralist. they tried isolate themselves from foreign influence. they had been run over by the japanese. -- ahave been the us; a semi-colony. tavis: let me ask a couple questions. what is there to be gained by these threats? most persons i have read been these threats to

that could be anybody from dennis rodman to george hamilton. i mean, he could still...ooklyn assemblyman. so, boy, that's... wow. but, you know, they had a tremendous amount of information. more importantly... >> we're getting some exclusive information from cnn's john king. you're working your sources. you're getting more information. exclusive reporting. you heard this dramatic exclusive reporting that john has done now. >> jon: you know what?at john this is why you turn to cnn in a crisis. you know, we make fun of them sometimes. we do. we tell jokes at their expense. but obviously because they've got the boots on the ground and they can do the reporting, you know, as one of their competitors i guess we just get a little jealous. of these kinds of exclusives. although we soon learned there was a very good reason why this was exclusive. >> there has been no arrest. and, in fact, a suspect has not been identified by name yet. >> jon: oh, it's exclusive because it was completely [bleep] wrong. that's why. it was exclusive. just out of curiosity did any of your sources e

[laughter] you sent over vies was the outfit that made news by sending dennis rodman and the globe trotterskorea. since they've come back north korea has begun on a war footing and warned the world about nuclear holocaust. thank you -- holocaust. thank you for that. have you been there yourself? >> i went twice. >> stephen: have you been there with dennis? >> no, i'm not allowed to go back because i was harsh on the regime. when i was there i saw the magic basketball. >> stephen: what is that. >> that madeleine albright gave to kim jong-il that is signed by michael jordan. that's why they love the bulls, the chicago bulls, michael jordan era. >> stephen: i love the chicago bulls, too. is there any chance i'm a totalitarian leader. >> we figured they loved the bulls, we could send them over and maybe he would show up. did he and he invited everybody back to dinner. >> stephen: you've been there, what is the experience like? is it can be stay at peace are are we going to war? >> my guess would be peace. they do a lot of sab be raying to get what they want which is food, energy. they've done t

couldn't get michael jordan to come, but dennis rodman went.ants a phone call from the president. >> well, you know, i think that the main thing here is, i promise never to play basketball, if dennis rodman promises not to do diplomacy. >> he may be going back, he says. but as ridiculous as that thing sounds, the president when he was a candidate back in 2007, he did say he's open to these kinds of conversations, reaching out to these despots. >> the president i think is right in wanting to talk to people. i think the issue here is, one does not do it under these kinds of threats. and what has to happen is the north koreans know what they have to do. they have to abide by the agreements that they've made. we want to denew clarized korean peninsula. once they abide by all the agreements, we have a way to talk to them. >> former secretary of state madeleine albright, thank you very much. so you're not going to play basketball? >> i don't think so. >> i think dennis rodman will still be doing things. >>> president obama makes an emotional plea to