is dennis ross that important? no, he's not.ons within the gop, folks not known for moderation who are more on the right saying, you know what, is this the best strategy? as you walk around here, craig, the question becomes why are we doing this, what is this about. one term i've said is this is the seinfeld shutdown. a shutdown about nothing at this point because the democrats continue to hold this position, which they've said you saw the president saying he will and they're not going to give an inch because they don't want to set a precedent for this, where does it end? does it end all the way the debt limit of october 17th? or could it end on monday if you put a clean bill on the floor? we don't know the answer to that. but as this goes on and on and on and you start to see that break within the house gop conference, at some point you got to say when is enough is enough is enough. i think you're starting to see that resonate within more conservative members of the house of the gop. >> luke russert, thank you. take care. >> th

the house met yesterday, a tea party republican from florida, dennis ross, sounded like he was ready to cut his losses, saying, quote, republicans have to realize how many significant gains we made over the last three years. we can't lose all that when there is no connection now between the shutdown and the funding of obama care. i think now it is a lot about pride. it is going to take a lot more republicans thinking and talking like dennis ross for this to all end on the democrats' terms. the house and the senate will be back in session tomorrow when the shutdown will turn one week old. well, the next seven days produced the breakthrough or the breakup that hasn't materialized yet? here to talk about that, we have frankie rudis, of the atlantic, former congressman tom davis, republican of virginia, dave weigel, political reporter for slate, and wanda summers, a reporter at politico. let me do that. i've been meaning to cough for the last two minutes. let's talk about where we are now. we'll we'll start with you, wanda, another piece of news yesterday, we did not get into the intro,

congressman dennis ross from florida just today instituted a bill before congress to require backgrounds for all of the navigators. that's an incredibly good idea. we have them for less reasons than navigators. it is time to stand up and make a little accountability. >> there are reports of people setting up dummy websites, try to go to healthcare.gov, especially the state exchanges, they're trying to monitor that, and something to keep in mind, make sure it is the real deal, not a fake dummy site. david bossie, thank you. >>> breaking news about when the president knew about the problems with the rollout of obama care and when the, quote, a team was called in. wait until you hear what secretary sebelius said about that. brit hume reacts. >>> and new developments in the disappearance of baby lisa irwin. tonight we know why the parents of baby lisa think this may be their daughter, who was just discovered living with gypsies in europe. >> this here is the window into the computer room the family believes the intruder came in through. they believe he pushed through this screen and went th

. >> reporter: on saturday, the first member of the tea party defected, representative dennis ross, telling bloomberg news, we need to move on. political analysts warn the effect on republicans could last well beyond this impasse. >> i think it's something that can hurt them in primaries, can make it tougher for them to have a singular message against democrats come fall 2014. of. >> reporter: but there are also perils for president obama, who insists he won't negotiate right now. >> i think even some democrats think the line he won't negotiate is one he won't stay with much longer. >> reporter: according to recent polls, president obama has seen some of his lowest approval ratings in two years. it's possible we won't see any progress until the next big fiscal deadline. that is october 17th when the nation reaches its debt limit and runs out of money to pay its bills. lester. >> all right, kristen, thank you. >>> savannah guthrie is filling in for david gregory as moderator of "meet the press." good morning. good to see you down there. >> good morning to you. >> we keep saying, savannah, th

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the earliest is october 14th when house democrats i long with republicans like dennis ross, a tea party member from florida, 19 of them can join with the democrats and we can have a clean bill. the senate can take it up and then we can get back to whatever normal looks like in washington, d.c. look, this back and for, back and forth like volleyball, it's, you know, it's childish. it's stupid. if they want to go to the white house and have coffee and deliberate longer, fine. but we need a bill to continue to fund the government, reopen the government and then focus on the debt ceiling. that's the next crisis. >> and so will cain, this is getting the to be a broken record, is it not? everyone is in agreement. they're frustrated with hearing the same kind of jargon from either side. whether it be house or is that the, republican or democrat. >> donna just answered your question. first, donna said she doesn't know when this is going to end. no one knows when thises going to end. this is a day-by-day issue. the president's position is clearly -- and the senate's position is clearly we're not

i wish you would bring -- have some program on the .onproliferation treaty dennis ross is pushing us closer iran.onfrontation with host: we appreciate the suggestion. if others have a suggestion, you @cspanwj.s, the wall street journal reports the labor board has been confirmed. the vote underscores the over the labore relations board general counsel saying that the candidates and other officials open -- barack obama has appointed -- morning, the new chief of the fcc was also confirmed. ken, huntington beach, california. what you think about the president obama's accountability on health-care rollout and the nsa surveillance program? you,r: to be honest with there is a reality here that has to be observed. if obama is guilty of anything, it is of being naÏve. obama just kind of assumed that if you try to do some good things, some little guy in the thought the republican party would go along with it and in -- and would help if they thought it was a worthy project. the republican party has an agenda. it is to board money, to make -- rde money, to cripple the economy, and to make a majo

dennis johnson, of the black youth project. barnard college student and authority, tiffany, ross floyd, co-founder of the chicago student's unionago's student union. thank you all for being here. dennis, i want to start with you. do you agree there with mr. lapierre that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun? >> an eye for an eye makes you blind. you don't respond to violence with violence, and you don't put more police officers in a school. it's bad enough when you walk into a school now, it feels like you're walking through the cook county jail. if it's cold, that line to get in the school, will be out the door. so no, i don't agree. the any of you have friends have guns or arm themselves to feel safe? >> no, not at all. >> so this notion that the gun is the solution is not true? >> not at all. >> so what makes you feel safe at school? >> personally, my school is not so much an education environment, it's more like a prison environment, like dennis said. i have a clear plastic backpack, i have to put it on a conveyor belt, walk through a metal detector, get searched, all of that. and that in

us to take care supposed and they are to work for the people, but every time i contacted my ross, hean, dennis tells me what he wants. you more people want obamacare then don't. i do not care what they say, they are lying. they do not want a shutdown and this is absurd. >> thank you for your call. chicago, martha, democrats line. caller: it is melissa, actually. commento make a general to the tea party members who are under the impression that this childlessness will make history. the only history that the tea party is making is that it is one of the most inane parties in one of the most -- in recent history. we will remember how we grew up in a workforce that was being down during a recession created by the right wing philosophy. -- we will look to see how we were one of the only industrialized countries in the world that still wanted universal health care. we will remember all of these things when we vote. we will make the tea party obsolete. this two-party system that is not rub representing -- is not representing us fairly is not going to last. all this respect to the republican party. --

ross. are you kidding me? they lost so much talent -- there were so many guys, ed reid, ray lewis, dennis pit is injured.o replay that style of football year in and year out. >> all right. in baseball 162 games not enough. because the rays are taking on the rangers as we speak in a tiebreaker. the winner from tonight will get to face the indians in the al wild-card on wednesday. baseball wild-cards are heating up. >> thanks very much ross. stay with us weather is next. s2x >>> the second phase of the bp oil spill trial is ungway. attorneys for both sides are arguing over how much oil spilled into the gulf back in 2010. they are facing as much as $18 billion in fine following the rig explosion that killed 11 people. the company insists it complied with all government regular ration -- regulation, but attorneys say it unestimated its response, and unestimated how much oil leaked out of the well. ♪ >>> a large fall storm that brought record rainfall to see at, portland, now it's making mountain snow and track going the dakotas. powerful wind gusts of 40 to 50 miles an hour, those wind gusts are also stretch