relationships with people in these industries, whether it is the pope, or doing fashion dennis with anna wintourey could not be more different but they are extremely important to the instagram community. emily: you personally on board the pope, not once, but twice. what was that like? kevin: it was really inspirational. there are not many moments you think why am i here, but also when it happens you realize you will remember it for your entire life. you realize you will onboard somebody who will go down in the history books for hundreds if not thousands of years, and they are choosing your product to connect with the people that care most about their message, that is awesome. emily: silicon valley is accused of being arrogant and full of overnight billionaires, and if anyone comes close to that story , it is you. you made $1 billion. you made a lot of money. how have you adjusted to that personally? kevin: you know, it is not an easy answer because i don't know if there is a guidebook for it. what you begin to realize is that money matters in the sense that it puts a roof above your head and fee