but if we were to dense few that, i would -- densdensify th, and i'm not sure that every street has a feeling that we need to preserve. but it's a sense of place that i think that makes the city special. i don't want to use other cities as punching bags but i have been to other cities and the sense of place has been completely obliberated and it's bland. i mean i know that there's a lot of pressures and that but there's no sense of place there anymore. everything is gone. and i think that the other thing is that since this is not -- these aren't historic buildings, during the p.p.a. period i think that strongly suggesting to the developer that there be a benefit to keeping a portion of the building should be a check box. we discussed it, what did they say. and then i think that if we really want to take this further on, you know, and, again, not to do the entire city but some examples are pretty amazing -- and maybe we -- we offer a concession incentive or waiver somehow, like in the home s.f. process. in order to get them to save something that they don't want to. so we kind of have