we also rarely talk about moving forward and anticipating identification -- densification of the city. that would require a land banking for future populations, knowing that we are having a fight between land and open space. that is a difficult discussion to have, because we are redeveloping for intense development, but not for the type of public open spaces we are talking about. you are transforming an industrial-sized lot as an immediate idea. that leaves the trans bay terminal and a lot of other things to discuss. i want to make sure we are not looking at the update of the rose only. but that we really include an idea about corporate land banking in the appropriate places in the city by some measure or standard by which we project population growth. commissioner antonini: along the same lines, we are constantly hearing about these fights that develop between groups, particularly recreational fields that are artificial turf versus natural turf. in one of the reasons the artificial turf issue is brought up is that the maintenance is not there for the natural turf. it is claimed that

policies of looking at space standards which are good standards pullback to identification -- densification. it is a good project and i understand the idea of a walk-in shower. >president olague: commissioner sugaya confirmed some things. there is questions around the permitting process. there was some sense that maybe serial permitting. i am trying to get a sense of the concerns and if you could clarify some of that. >> when the property owner bought the property, there was an existing complaint. an existing one that was filed anonymously that there was an illegal yet in the building. once the property owner was made aware of this, he filed for a permit in march 2010 to essentially abate the violation and return -- from of the kitchen or whatever illegal kitchen was there and return it to a compliant single-family dwelling. the building needed other repairs so that is when they began to file for permits to do improvements, interior alterations. during the construction process, they discovered that certain walls had to be demolished because they were not salvageable. that is when another co