denver riggleman joins me now. thank you so much for coming on the show.scale of 1 to 10, what score out of ten would you give the work of the 16 committee so far? what grade would you give it? how do you explain why the committee has never subpoenaed the likes of lauren boebert? >> i listen to that whole beginning, that was amazing. i would give a grade of about an 8.8. and then 1.2 off of that ten is the lack of speed. for me, once you see data, and data is perishable, time is paramount. when you look at lauren boebert, there is actually over three dozen active members on meadows text messages. lauren, even though i would love to talk to her about her 1776 tweet and also her tweet about pelosi, which either you are ignorant about operational security, or you are threatened and doing things you should be doing. whether you get shot on purpose or accident, you are still being shot. it's a military thing. what she did was just ridiculous and unconscionable. we still have over three dozen members on the meadows text messages that we need to talk to, as far a

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with donald trump having offered a rant, here is how denver riggleman responded to his comments yesterdayink part of that fortunately gillette or you saw, which was part of his program of relentless radicalization and a letter which could have been written by rudy giuliani, sydney powell, jenny thomas, phil waldron, qanon adherence themselves -- he's really trying to get oxygen back into where he is back in the media. i think that is with us subpoena might have done. >> peter, is there reason to believe that the subpoena is going to rile up trump's face? >> he's going to be riled up no matter what. the committee isn't too worried about that. i think they are trying to make a point to the people who are listening to their results and their investigation. the point about mike pence, by the way -- he will have his sign out there soon. it will be in the form of a book. his book is coming out on november 15th. it's very different than to have him sitting down answering questions. it will be interesting to see how he frames it, what he says about that day, what he says about how he felt about d

back with us to discuss denver riggleman, former adviser to the january six committee, former virginianow a new york times bestselling author of the new book the breach: the untold story of the investigation into january 6th. denver, as i said, tomorrow could be it, the last hearing. and i know there is so much content to cover. but what do they need to do to make this a success? >> i think the first thing they need to do is what any military brief or does, which is in the beginning, you know, they told the country what they are going to tell them, then they told them. now they have to tell the country what they told him. and they have to go through from the first hearing, all the way to this hearing and connect all of the dots from the first hearings with the law enforcement officers, through the attorneys, through cassidy hutchinson, right, all the way up to the end, right. and how donald trump, you know, sort of -- the figurehead, or sort of the master puppeteer, he knew it was good to have it on january 6th. it's a very difficult task, i think they're up to it, because of the many

and finally, in publishing, former republican congressman denver riggleman of virginia, who went to work for the january 6th committee, wrote a book with a behind the scenes look about tenure on the committee. it's called the breach. it came, according to news reports, as a surprise to members of that committee. and now more the january six committee. it's forthcoming and how the publishing industry is that report's release. we're joined by jim elliott, editorial director of publishers weekly. james elliott. as of this conversation, we don't know when the house january six committee is going to be releasing that final report. but if you go to amazon today, there's already half a versions of that report available for preorder. so what does that tell you about the publishing industry's expectation for americans appetite for to buy the book form of this report? well, i think it's obviously states that they think there's going to be a lot of interest that the discussions have covered a lot of ground. there's a lot of time to digest. and i think, you know, having a print version and a let peo

host: denver riggleman, our guest until 10:00. if you want to ask him questions about his book, (202) 748-8001 four republicans. (202) 748-8000 four and -- for democrats. (202) 748-8002 for independence. your book deals with mark meadows. the portion says, we never received a cdr from mark meadows, but the telephone text he turned over t committee became the rosetta stone for the nuary 6. they provided information, mead identified many aspects t subpoena by -- privilege. he must have sed or uploaded his own data to the cloud or another stagdevice and he and his legal team turned over this extorting number of messages. in doing so, meadows gave us the keys to the kingdom. we called them the crown jewel. if you could explain what cdr is, can you elaborate. guest: [laughter] i tried to ask wayne earlier in the book, those are called detail reppert's -- records. we never got those. we know there were other text messages we did not receive content of because they were under executive privilege. without cdrs, it is hard to tell if we ha

. >> so, denver riggleman, unpack this for me.e's assistant under supervision, ostensibly, by johnny mcentee drafted orders to have the united states leave somalia and afghanistan, two of putin's most urgent policy wishes. >> you know, first, nicole, i think nonstandard could apply to the entire trump administration. you know, when you look at what general milley said. now you got individuals that are completely unqualified pushing orders. as a former military individual, i would have been horrified. i can see general milley is horrified. that comes from johnny mcentee's office to kash patel, a guy who writes bizarre children books, pushing this type of theories. it's been proven over and over again that president trump knew he lost, but there's another thing that i think the committee proved, and that's the lunatics were running the asylum. and you know, looking through what they did today, by summing this up, as a military command briefer, at the beginning of this, they told people what they were going to tell them, then they to

>> i do not know the white house and. >> joining me now is the man himself, denver riggleman. he is a former republican congressman from virginia. former january six committee staffer, and author of the new book, they breach. the untold story of the investigation into january six. congressman riggleman, thank you very much for coming to the sunday show. let's talk about that phone call. you gotta had lot of headlines when you said that. what do you think there's more evidence yet to come out about communication between the riders and the white house? do you think we will see some of that in thursday's hearing? >> yes. thanks for having me on this morning. i think we've already seen more evidence come out. we have the book talking about the smallest parts of data that can lead you to those a ha moments. one, was in the book, we saw that kelly soil very thrilling people throwing to text the white house. that was really interesting to us. i put that in the book because, you know, sometimes past performance is indicative of future performance. so, when you have texting like that yo

host: denver riggleman, our guest until 10:00.k him questions about his book, (202) 748-8001 four republicans. (202) 748-8000 four and -- for democrats. (202) 748-8002 for independence. your book deals with mark meadows. the portions, we never received a cdr from mark meadows, but the telephone tex he turned over to the committee became the rosetta stone for the january 6. they provided information, meadows identified many aspects of the subpoena by -- privilege. he must have saved or uploaded his own data to the cloud or another storage device and he and his legal team turned over this extorting number of messages. in doing so, meadows gave us the keys to the kingdom. we called them the crown jewel. if you could explain what cdr is, can you elaborate. guest: [laughter] i tried to ask wayne earlier in the book, those are called detail reppert's -- records. we never got those. we know there were other text messages we did not receive content of because they were under executive privilege. without cdrs, it is hard to tell if we have

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denver riggleman. of our colleagues across the nation of nbc news, thanks for saying up late with us! see you this weekend! this week, bloomberg news published a story about the documents donald trump had sent down to mar-a-lago at the end of his presidency. the story went to some detail about who packed the boxes containing those documents. i'm going to spoil the ending here by telling you that it was the white house, not the general services administration -- the gsa -- that packed those boxes, which is counter to what donald trump has insisted for several months now. but it is maybe not surprising, given the other wild claims he has made in the course of this whole mar-a-lago saga. but a complaining that bloomberg story was a picture of the document boxes that were sent down to trump's beach club. this is it right here. look at that. i don't know about you wet the

that's what former congressman denver riggleman, part of that team has told the public. but it's so important that this hearing happened. and we saw roger stone in some of the video that i think he'll come forward in the next hearing encourage violence and say, it's time to carry out violence. because we have an election coming out. another inflection point in our country. and we have one side that is more comfortable with violence than voting. joy, i liken the republican party today, the maga republicans to biff canon of back to the future. they don't have any ideas. they just resort -- their default is violence. our default is voting and the will of the american people. and this next hearing will connect the violence that donald trump and his team knew about and make sure that when we have another election, we don't let this happen again. >> congressman eric swalwell, thank you so much for being here. please thank representative omar. and we know she wasn't able to be here tonight, baa thank you very much for being here. >>> coming up, how many of the gop candidates or

denver riggleman said a call came from the white house to somebody involved in the insurrection.a connection between the seditious conspiracy we know is being charged to members of those groups and trump? >> i think they have to be. this is really the missing link. based on the public evidence, it seems very clear that there is evidence that trump was involved in a conspiracy to defraud the government or interfere with the government, but the seditious conspiracy piece which requires the use of force, has always been a little bit more opaque, and this is certainly the committee saying hey, if you have anything, we would like to see it. >> yeah, absolutely. and one more little thing here. you have got trump has finally found a firm to handle his january 6th subpoena. there was this weird thing where it didn't seem like anyone would accept the subpoena. now they have a firm. how much -- this is the dillon law firm. they represent multiple witnesses who appeared before the committee. they represent michael flynn, sebastian gorka. you're a firm representing all of those people, how d

. >> smith: denver riggleman was the senior technical advisor to the january 6 committee. >> you've seenrecords? >> we've seen a lot of phone records, yeah. (bangs gavel) >> meeting will be in order. >> but what's interesting is we really didn't need mike flynn's phone records as much as, as his assistants. >> smith: riggleman is a former republican congressman, and military intelligence officer. >> what was most interesting, when you're looking at call detail records or text messages, is that there was a plan. >> smith: the plan to overturn the election had been underway long before january 6th. our reporting shows that, after flynn's pardon, people he was working with moved to obtain voting records. and then produced an infamous report alleging voter fraud in antrim county, michigan. >> so when you're talking about antrim county, talking about fake data that's then presented as real data. >> smith: and even though the antrim report was widely discredited, flynn's lawyer, sidney powell, used it in court to try to overturn the election results. >> then money is pushed behind that data in

harry, i know you're gonna stay with us but former calm grossman denver riggleman, you're welcome anytimet something much near the end of an exclusive wall street journal report there could be a potential bombshell of the mar-a-lago investigation. it is not just about additional documents. i'm going to speak with the reporter breaking that story, next. next next ecan get it on us at t-mobile. apple business essentials with apple care+ is included so you can easily manage your team's devices, here, and here. all on the network with more 5g coverage. it's the ultimate business trifecta, with the new iphone 14 pro on us. only from t-mobile for business. if you're loud, be louder. if you stand out, stand strong. and if you got the devil on your shoulder... take him for a ride. breaking news for any wall street journal on a witness their mar-a-lago restoration. the journal reports that according to people familiar with the matter, the justice department is interested in testimony from two aides to donald trump. one who might be able to provide information on whether missing government argument

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