the report actually says the department of defense has not demonstrated the ability to tell warheads from decoys. this is the unclassified report that deputy secretary of defense carter got asked for a couple of years ago. it also says that a capability the missile defense agency has been talking about for a long time called shoot, look, shoot has not been demonstrated. let me explain this simply. i have an object. i want to destroy it. if i don't have time to shoot it, see if i destroyed it and shoot it again, i typically would shoot two intercepte eror simultaneously i have a problem. what's happened, there's been a lot of talk about shoot, look, shoot. you need battle space, reach out early enough you can shoot a second intercepter, time to shoot a second intercepter if the first fails. but this report states, and i'm sure it's correct, the shoot, look, shoot is not possible because the department of defense is not demonstrated if they hit a target they will know they destroyed the warhead or able to tell the warhead from other debris created if and when they hit a target. lots of

and then beyond the department of defense? >> well, it is a great question. first of all, i'd say that policies developed, policies initiatives may come from within the department of defense, but if they are significant for the national security, they almost always get brought into a broader interagency discussion and process. and so, i think that it works a couple of ways. there may be a bright idea that comes from the bottom-up perhaps from the field or perhaps from somewhere in the department, and typically in my role, i will bring that into the deputy process so that you have the p deputy national security adviser and members of the intelligence community, state department, usaid and the treasury and sometimes the department of homelandappropriate, and we exercise the options for the initiative and ultimately decision for the president to consider. and other times a top-down decision where the president sees an opportunity and wants to go in a particular direction and that process wants to be harnessed from the top down. pu the good news, ample opportunity

one other area i want to get to and that is energy, you all at the department of defense are s of energy in our country. and sometimes just takes your breath away when you think through the implications on recent tour when we were in afghanistan, we heard about the fact that it cost in some

of defense, honorable leon e. panetta from the u.s. department of defense. general martin e. dempsey, united states army, chairman, joint chiefs of staff. the honorable robert, if i heal, tunds secretary of defense, and controller of the department. thank you for being here. mr. secretary, the time is yours. >> thank you very much, members of this committee, always nice to be able to return to the house i'll ask that my statement be made part of the record. >> no objection, so ordered. >> i appreciate the opportunity to appear before you to discuss the president's budget request for fiscal year 2013 for the department of defense. these brave men and women, and they are, for anybody that's gone to the battlefield and talked to those in uniform, they are without question, the next greatest generation of individuals. along with the department easy vilian professionals who support them, they've done everything that's been asked of them and more during more than a decade of war and, again, i thank you for the support you provided to them. if fy 13 budget request for the department

the defense department that would go into effect in january of 2013. how do you deal with this in your budgetary planning? >> well, senator, it, you know, it is very unfortunate because frankly, it sends a dark cloud over the defense department, and frankly, our defense department contractors that worry about the possibility of sequester and what it means for their employment force as well, and so there are a lot of very concerned people looking at the prospect that it may happen, and for us, as i said, obviously, we are not planning. we have made no plans for sequester because it's a nutty formula, and it's goofy to begin with, and it's not something, frankly, that anybody who's responsible ought to put into effect. it was designed as a gun to head. >> yes, it was. >> and, you know, i was disappointed that the super committee failed in its job. i have to tell you, you know, having been in the budget process for a long time, there was a time when we had to be in a room negotiating with the administration on dust reductions, and frankly, we were not al

know that the only way to get funding passed within the within the congress is through the department of defense it's easy to get votes for increased money for the department of defense and this is why it's the only way the cia could get money was to get it passed through the d.o.d. and then money gets indirectly funds sent to the cia as a result of that so. there will be fairly little cuts for the d.o.d. in the near term future and there will be fairly little cuts then to other assets for the u.s. to be able to influence you know iraq and afghanistan everywhere else and lastly jake just want to ask you what do you say to those that that say this sudden pull out and total stop the you know ceasing to spend any money on iraq is not really feasible that it should be more of this gradual process to make it more of a smooth the most trance transition possible well i just have to ask them look at the last hundred years of american history and ask how smooth any transition has gone as and has never been smooth and easy no matter how delicate it was we haven't tried just pulling out yet fact the one pl

so as a department of defense, for example, pivots to the far east of the pacific, we will do that as well, and obviously a major he cequity for us in the intelligence community is support from the military. where we are effective, i think, to get to your question is, for example, as we draw down in iraq, obviously we are going to have a much reduced footprint across the board to include intelligence. that will affect our -- the infidelity of the intelligence we previously had on iraq. i anticipate, when we draw down in afghanistan and intelligence resources are drawn down proportionately, that we will also not have the infidelity that we have today. so in that context, yes, we'll lose some capability, but what i tried to push as a result of my experience 20 years ago is those capabilities that enable global coverage to include for denied areas, such as russia and china, and enable us to adapt and be resilient depending on what the crisis of the day is. >> thank you very much. again, thank you both for answering my questions and for being so forthcoming to our committee. thank you. >>

faculty member -- >> former close friend of mine. >> -- ultimately will now be one of the key figures in the defense department as deputy secretary to oversee and evaluate the progress of the missile defense program. so i think we have the best capability we could have looking at this. this is a free and fair society and we're delighted to get the criticisms when they're on a particular point, i think the administration will -- by the way, i should -- finally, members of the congress and congressional committee staffs have some excellent technical experts and they've looked at these systems, too. so it's a work in progress but i certainly personally believe that the motivations are sound. they're in defense of this country, and that the capability that's been put into it is also quite high and we're continuing to work with the problem. and i think it's a valuable investment. it's about $8 billion a year. >> michael, thank you. dean, we'll just keep the same order. and please feel free to comment on michael. >> okay. very briefly. the thing i like about ted's analysis is he raises one of the most challenging is

the fy13 budget request for the department of defense was the product of an intensive strategy review conducted by the senior military and civilian leaders of the department through advice and guidance of the president. the total request represents a $6.14 billion investment in the defense requiring 4.45 billion for the didn't's based budget and 88.5 billion in spending to support the troops in combat. the reasons for this review are clear. first, the united states is at a strategic turning point after a decade of war, and after substantial growth in defense budgets. second, with the nation confronting a very large debt problem and deficit problem in this country, congress passed the budget control act of 2011 imposing a reduction in the defense budget of 487 billion over the next decade. we, at the department, decided to step up to the plate, that this crisis provided us an opportunity to establish a new strategy for the force we need in the future. that strategy has guided us in making the budget decisions and choices that are contained in the president's budget. the fact is we are

the fy13 budget request for the department of defense was the product of an intensive strategy review conducted by the senior military and civilian leaders of the department through advice and guidance of the president. the total request represents a $6.14 billion investment in the defense requiring 4.45 billion for the didn't's based budget and 88.5 billion in spending to support the troops in combat. the reasons for this review are clear. first, the united states is at a strategic turning point after a decade of war, and after substantial growth in defense budgets. second, with the nation confronting a very large debt problem and deficit problem in this country, congress passed the budget control act of 2011 imposing a reduction in the defense budget of 487 billion over the next decade. we, at the department, decided to step up to the plate, that this crisis provided us an opportunity to establish a new strategy for the force we need in the future. that strategy has guided us in making the budget decisions and choices that are contained in the president's budget. the fact is we are

a dirty and even toxic mess for a local community as and as it turns out the united states department of defense is the biggest polluter on the planet and as you'll see the mass may just maybe just be too expensive for the pentagon to clean up. the united states department of defense the planet's biggest polluter with hundreds of military bases around the world the department is responsible for more ways than any other company or country this is a consistent pattern of a lack of concern for the environment and for human life and of course that's something that's part of an imperial mindset the problem has persisted throughout history from nuclear testing in the pacific in the fifty's fire. to nato attacks dropping depleted uranium in libya it gets into the water table and it does damage to the kidneys and the liver is very very highly dangerous some countries say they've had enough like japan which is pushing for the ouster of u.s. troops stationed in okinawa what looks like ninety thousand people in okinawa and thousands others across japan seems to represent people saying as they have been for

of fuel burns. the defense department knows that and knows one of the risks is the energy independent of our actual ses and operations themselves. is that right? >> the department of defense is the number one energy user in the kocountry. they only con sused 1%, but they are the single biggest market movers. they buy 300,000 barrels of oil a day. so that's the levels of consumptions they are seeing. in the long wars, you have to be cognizant of that effect on your operations. >> when we were in austin, texatexa texas, two weeks ago. we had john hofmeister who is working on creating energy independence. we met liz perez, who was an officer in the navy, who is running a business in san diego to this effect. what are your thoughts on the scalability of a defense energy project where we take american energy executives and american energy investors and partner them with veterans like yourself and so many others. we have millions returning over the next couple years to seize this next mission. >> not only are veterans returning, but the armed forces are going to scale down in the next few years. we'll hav

now, this department of defense report, again, the department of defense report that the deputy secretary asked for, also made an amazing statement. it said something that i've been saying for more than ten years. see, what i've been saying for ten years is that if you have those suitcases out there and you're just inspecting them with your eyes, you can't tell whether or not there's a bomb in them by just inspecting them with your eyes. you're going to have to sniff them, open up the suitcase and look around. even then you might fail, but certainly you're not going to be able to identify which suitcase has a bomb by simply looking at it. this is not a very profound statement to say, but there's a lot of technical detail behind this very simple statement which is correct completely in terms of the analogy i'm giving you. the defense science board report actually says that the department of defense has not demonstrated the ability to tell warheads from decoys. this is the report, unclassified report that deputy secretary of defense carter had asked for a couple of years ago. the, it also s

about it, there's controversy and plenty of it around this issue because of the department of -- we're the department of defense. there's the department of homeland security, fbi. so there's authorities to be considered. we're working through all that. >> in terms of the virginia class submarine, which i think is what you're referring to. we're planning to buy nine. a year ago, we were planning to buy ten we'll buy two a year, except for fiscal '14 we'll buy one. it was an affordability decision, frankly. the submarine fits into our strategy and we'll certainly continue to buy. but we were looking frankly to comply and be consistent with the budget control act. >> i was asked this question yesterday and, you know, if there are cost efficiencies that can be achieved here that allow us to do this with savings and in a more cost effective way, we're prepared to look at that. >> i have additional question, but my time is coming to an end. i would just reiterate the important of the virginia class submarine program. it might cost our work force if we're not careful. with that, i yield back. >> mr. wilson? >> thank y

the maryland national guard and department of defense have not identified him as one of the american casualties in the country. word of his death has surfaced after a weekend of deadly protests. so far four americans have been killed and the taliban has claimed responsibility, saying it was in response to u.s. soldiers buring korans. the major's daughter has fond memories of her dad, a family man who loved his wife and children. she and her family are grieving his loss and hoping his legacy lives on. >> he was a strong, courageous, brave, loving man of god. he just loved the lord. and he loved my mom and he loved us and he would have done anything for us. >> the marchanti family is from the garden vill area of northeast baltimore. lia says her father taught physical education at dundalk elementary. kim dacey, wbal-tv 11 news. >> our thoughts go up to their family. the trial begins right mental patient charged in the death of another patient. 51-year-old el soudani el wahhabi is accused of strangling susan sachs in the hospital back in september of 2010. experts found el soudani el wa

department of defense is the biggest polluter in the world how is this able to happen. well i mean part of it is that the united states continually goes to military every solutions across the globe and when you are the world's largest consumer of oil products for example that just means pollution and typically you also have military contractors who are there to make a buck and don't really care about environmental regulations or in a lot of cases the safety of the troops they're supposedly serving i mean you had you know anything from water contamination in camp le june to the burn pits in iraq and afghanistan and it's a persistent problem and it leads to about i think it's a report said seven hundred fifty thousand tons of toxic waste produced every year and you get sad you know that the worry isn't really too much about environmental regulation that says the u.s. tries to advise other countries on environmental policies and how can the u.s. do so when it has its own cleaning up to do what we really do have our own cleaning up to do here in the united states and as your

>> i believe you're referring to the department of defense's st -- s2t2 analysis. these issues are relevant and current and we're working, as all the services are, with d.o.d., to bring it to the conclusion so we can make some decisions. >> thank you, sir. and then general, one of the things i'm concerned about is that as we do the cutbacks, and i'm sure you're concerned also, but one of the things that's really important is the rock island arsenal, which is one of the areas that myself and then mr. lopes represent. but bark in 2006 when our troops were faced with the ieds, the arsenal was the group that were basically stepped up and took this challenge and within three weeks they were able to turn these doors around, the frag five kits is what they call them, which allow the private sector or the folks outside to get these things out. that's one of the main concerns is just because the turn around was faster than the industry could ever do, and that's one of the things when it comes to the war fighters is to keep those warmed up, of course. >> again, it's about ha

war boeing and a number of companies were forced to locate there because the you know the department of defense wanted something very in when the bombing she have a huge aircraft industry but you start to see a lot of problems i mean right now wichita you have tens of thousands of people employed in making claims very high paying jobs about seventy thousand years the average salary a good wichita i would imagine are pretty good and it's heavily unionized there too despite candidates being a right to work state but now in recent years we're starting to see a lot of problems in wichita with companies leaving to go to other places to go to mexico to go to other states where the unions aren't quite as strong to go you know to outsource to nonunion shops right now in southeastern kansas several county region around wichita you have thirty thousand unemployed. airline aircraft workers in the past you know i was trying with the union leader who said you could. always quit a job in an aircraft maker and go get another one the same week that was the case up until the financial crash a few years ago and

additional time to ensure this important issue receive the fullest consideration within the department of defense, military departments and chiefs of staff. i will provide a brief overview of the report which reflects the provisions of preventing members from hizing to the highest levels that their talents an capabilities warrant. the reports' findings represent the concerted efforts of all the military services and have the highest confidence of both the department's civilian and military leaders. the report recommends changes to current assignment policies and includes the required notification of congress of our intent to open over 14,000 positions to women. these positions were identified pursuant to two policy related changes each significant in their own right. opening these positions implements lessons from over a decade at war where women were proven exceptionally capable and successful to mission accomplishment. let me begin by describing that enacted in 1994 by then secretary of defense less aspen. it's also referenced in paragraph one of the executive summary. this policy expressly pro

. >> when it comes to the military budget, don't see the department of defense as a job create are for america. that's one of the benefits but i don't think we should view the department of defense as a way to create jobs to deal with unemployment. we should have a defense capability. i feel it's appropriate to reduce defense spending and appropriate to consider another round of black. so just can't me in the process of having to make hard decisions, even in the defense area. when it comes come health care premiums, is it sustainable? is the mandatory spending part of the budget sustainable without reform? >> no. >> so the question for the country is, if i don't get court-martials and get to be a retired colonel and receive my tri-care benefits when i'm 60, it's okay to ask a guy like me to pay more. they haven't been adjusted since then 1990s. is that correct. >> that's correct. >> and general demsey, you're willing to pay more? >> i am, sir. >> i guess the point is that we're so far in debt, no one group is off the table. and it's hard to ask those who have done the most to secure ou

the department of the army is the executive agent for mortuary affairs for the department of defense. so they're responsible not only for, do i need this? >> you do. >> ah. okay. >> so the, army is the executive agent for the department of defense. and they are responsible for harmonizing policy across all these various organizations. and of course the army has a very important roll out side of the mortuary in the activities that go on in the field when fallen troops are collected on the battlefield, transported back home. and it's huge operation that the army runs there. as the war progressed it was found necessary to form a centralized joint mortuary affairs board which was responsible for coordinating all of these various activities to insure that the work was done properly, that there was some degree of policy oversight. it was chaired by an army colonel and the members of it were primarily civilians and military members in the o-6 level of rank captains in the navy, colonels in the army. of course the department of defense, usd for personnel and readiness, undersecretary of defen

the emphasis that came on is what can the department of defense do but still what do we have to be able to do for what we can do with the money that we have. so there's two arrows of economic realities out there and the budget control act along with the desires for strategic review. at a high level of discussions along with the combat ant commanders and leaders in the jcs and osd as well as played out in two and three-star meetings among what many call the three-star programmers. this was an interim processes as to what does it bring to bear and what can the force do and the bottom line is, a restructured force and i'll show you slide by slide what that means and then you see the $58 billion. that's going from 13 through 17 and 13 through 17 in pb 13. >> a reminder that you can read the president's entire budget request online at c-span.org. also, hearings and briefings related to other web pages at c-span.org. join us later tonight for more from american history tv. the focus is george washington. historian smith reflects on the first president from his home. american history tv gets u

bill i just wondered if the secretary of defense believes that the defense industrial base likes the seibu model of information sharing and is announced by the department of defense in june of 2011 where they would prefer to be regulated. i think there are some unanswered questions but the point is i would be very strong about, senator collins, is that some of the concerns and we are grateful. >> that's my point as we frankly been over backwards to try to listen to the legitimate concerns without weakening the bill to the point where it can no longer accomplish the goal. another important provision of the bill, the owners of critical infrastructure, not the government, not dhs would select and implement the cybersecurity measures that they determine are best suited to satisfy risk-based performance requirements, does the chamber support having the owners of the infrastructure decide rather than government mandating specific measures? >> as i recall in the legislation the chamber lacks the notion that the selector select agencies with respect to the departments and agencies coordinating council's have been working on identifying the critical infrastruct

first of all, the department of defense is leading what is called the s2t2, a analysis of all of our industrial partners to try to assess those greatest vulnerabilities, the kinds of things that you mentioned, mr. reyes, and to figure a path forward for all the services jointly as to how we might lessen that challenge and burden on the individual locations. beyond that, the army itself is doing an industrial baseline. our folks and our acquisition community are looking at those things as by way of example, you mention the abrams shut down in ohio. what we're doing with gdls, general dynamics land systems, the contractor on-site is trying to ensure that through particularly their fms sales, foreign military sales, which they are beginning to line up, and which the department of defense is them, provides that core abilit skilled engineer positions to retain employment until we begin our recapitalization program in 2017 of the m1a2 sub-v abrams. this is something that is of great interest. it's something that we're looking at very hard. and there are no guarantees. but whether it's ppps

related to cyber structure owned and operated by the private sector, we better be handled by the department of defense, or the intelligence community. in other words, they should take the lead in protecting federal civilian networks. i wonder if you would respond as to why you think the department of homeland security, as odyssey we give them is better prepared to take on this critical responsibility? >> well, several points. first, department of homeland security, as i stated, already is exercising authorities in the civilian area, working with the private sector, working with federal civilians agencies. so that's a space we are already filling and continue to grow our capacity to feel. second, military and civilian authorities and missions are different, and our significant differences. for example, in the privacy protections that we employ within the exercise of civil jurisdiction. and then finally, i would note that both dod and dhs use the technological expertise of the nsa. we are not proposing and have never proposed that to nsa's be created, rather that there be two different lines of authorit

now the department of defense report, get the department of defense to order the deputy secretary askedfor also made an amazing statement. it says something i've been saying for more than 10 years. but i've been saying for 10 years, if he is the suitcases out there and just inspecting with your eyes, you can't tell whether or not there's a bomb in the budget. you have to set them, open up the suitcase and look around and even then you might fail, that certainly won't go to attend a fire when the suitcase is a bomb they simply it. this is not a profound statement to say, but a lot of technical details behind this very simple statement, which is correct completely in terms of the analogy is doing it. the defense science board resize the department of defense has not demonstrated the ability to tell warheads from decoys. this is the report, unclassified report to deputy secretary of defense carter had asked for a couple of years ago. it also says that a capability that the missile defense agency has been talking about for a long time called to shoot, look, shoot. let me just explain this s

i again would refer to the department of defense on the rules of engagement, although i can't imagine why there would need to be a change to them. they've been given every opportunity for self-protection, force protection so again i'm surprised if there has been a change. >> thank you, thank you mr. chair. >> thank you very much, mr. kelvert? >> thank you, i'd like to visit our southern hemisphere again, mr. nunes and miss myrec brought it up. the united states stepped in colombia forcibly and turned that around and i think everyone here would say it's been a success story, colombia is coming back. we entered into a trade agreement which is mutually beneficial. we have significant problems in our southern hemisphere, venezuela, ecuador, bolivia, central america is a basket case. guatemala has the highest crime rate in the world. last time i was there they managed to make that list, and obviously mexico. 50,000 people have been killed in mexico in the last three years. we had a discussion recently, as horrible as the number of deaths in afghanistan and iraq are, i suspect they may be h

there may be a lot to learn from the growing pains and mistakes and lessons learned in the department of defense had in consolidating their efforts as you are trying organize 22 different organizations. they found there were various high risk operations that i think were in their words had performance problems. and i think as you testified earlier to mr. rodgers, question the idea of centalizing procurement, i was glad to hear the progress made in that direction. can you tell me what your thoughts are in terms of looking at that model and trying to apply it to the department of homeland security? >> yes. in fact, i do have is a volume on goldwater nichols on my desk which shows you what secretaries of security read in their spare time. it took about 40 years between the creation of the department of defense and the management that goldwater-nichols represented. we will beat that target. we will take lessons learned in the department, not everything done in the department applies in the dhs context and in many ways we have a much broader set of missions that we have to perform. but things like ac

in any event, it took about 40 years between the creation of the department of defense and the consolidation and management that goldwater/nichols represented. we're going to beat that target. we're going to take lessons learned in dod. not everything done in the dod context applies in the dhs context. and we also in many respects have a much broader set of missions that we have to perform. but things like acquisition review, particularly for large purchases. how you manage procurement in general. things look liike looking at ho buy software, how you guy vehicles, designing common frames for aircraft that could be used by coast guard -- >> i do want to mention at that hearing, out of all the agencies in charge of homeland security, d h dhs only gets 50% of that funding. that was an important point i was not aware of. i think perhaps we can change that as well. >> that's for the congress. >> precisely. >> i will say. but those are the kinds of efficiencies that we can, i think, edge courage and grow at d hrk s. >> thank you, madam. >> gentleman yields back. the gentleman from texas, mr. kwa y

particularly their foreign military sales which they are beginning to line up and which the department of defense is attempting to assist them, provides that core ability for those particularly highly skilled engineer positions to retain employment until we begin our recapitalization program in 2017 of the m1a2 abrams. so this is something that is of great interest. it's something we've said we're looking at very hard. and there are no guarantees, but whether it's ppps, public/private partnerships or other kinds of approaches, as far as we're concerned, we're willing to pursue any reasonable path to ensure that those particularly critical jobs remain viable. >> is there -- i'm sure you've given it thought, but is there any way to keep a -- some kind of a minimum production capacity for the army during these -- >> every facility has a minimum sustain rate. for the abrams, i believe it's 70 tanks a year which is far beyond our -- not just our fiscal ability, it's far beyond our need. but as those minimum sustain rates are figured through, we try to meet them through other means. public/private part

office or with other stakeholders, and how many other bases are being identified for unilateral department of defense closure outside of the brac process? >> congressman, i really recommend that you ask the chief of the air force that question, because the decision to make that decision was in his hands as part of the strategy that was being implemented to kind of fulfill the strategic goals that we were after. so on that specific decision, i would recommend you ask him that question. >> okay. thank you. and it plays actually into a larger role. because as you know and are aware, that the air force's restructuring plan propose as reduction of 65 c-130 tactical airlifters getting us to a total fleet projection of 318 aircraft. part of that is because we're going to be lowering the army to a structure of about 490,000 members. my concern is that pre- 9/11, the army was at about 480,000. so very similarly sides. we had 530 c-130 tactical airlifters. i'm just curious as to the air force's new restructuring plan isn't realistic given previous demands for tactical airlift and future demands in this new str

fact that the department of education has the third largest share of our discretionary spending of all the departments in the federal government. only d.o.d. -- only the department of defense and health and human services have larger budgets than the department of education. still not enough money. and what have we got to show for all of that money? test scores absolutely flat, no improvement since 1965 for over $2 trillion spent on education. madam speaker, i'm sorry, again . i can't allow my colleague to rewrite history in his own terms. i'd also like to point out that when president obama had both the house and the senate in his control, 60 votes in the senate and 255 votes here, did he propose a jobs bill? no. he waited until he'd been in office three years before he proposed a jobs bill. and my colleagues across the aisle were in charge of this body and the senate for four years. did they re-authorize the transportation bill? did they re-authorize the s.e.a.? no. i'm sorry. i believe in that old saying, believe who live in glass houses should not throw stones. with that i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman reserves the balance of

these will remain a priority for the departments of defense in the months and years to come. the enemies of openly declared their seeking weapons of mass destruction and it is vital we must continue to increase our response capabilities to ensure a quick and effective response, god forbid it never occurs. the key to combating of weapons of mass destruction on our homeland is preparation and early planning with you, our state partners. the same holds true for responding to national disasters, many of you found yourself dealing with last year. we encountered 14 national disasters last year that caused that least $1 billion each in damage. that's very significant. it was a tumultuous year, as many of you know. we saw a wild fires, a blizzard, flooding, and tornadoes. based on recent weather patterns, we should expect as many severe weather events this year. complex task appears are something we all need to pay serious attention to. -- complex weather events are something we need to pay attention to. we recently traveled to texas and it discussed border issues. it is becoming like

. >> we have five programs in the department of defense including the army that are currently looking at that. i've said if those programs prove promising i'm not going at it for the fda or anybody else, we'll authorize that treatment. >> thank you so much. >> mr. schilling. >> thank you, chairman, ranking member smith, first i would like to thank you two gentlemen for your dedication to our country and war fighters. it's greatly appreciated. just a couple of things quickly. what i was wondering, mr. secretary, i was aware of a study that's been done, been ongoing to adjust the organic base in the future and i was just wondering do you know when we might see that plan or maybe when it will be released? >> i believe you're referring to the department of defense's st 2 t sector bis by sector, tier by tier. these issues are relevant and there's no timeline interest. e're working as all the ng it to a conclusion so we can make some decisions and plot a way forward. >> very good. and then general, one of the things that i'm concerned about is that as we do these cutbacks and i'm sure you'r

would give that kind of speech and not mention that you know boeing against the wishes of the department of defense the air force has just come out and said that they're against boeing moving to san antonio texas from wichita because they're forced want to service their level of security clearances so boeing is has done things that want to broken labor law and to they're going to the wishes of the u.s. air force inclusion don it's so they're really not about sins and what is it about is it about their bottom line and maximizing profits it's mainly about maximizing profits and being able to run business the way they want to even though a lot of republicans from kansas including pat robertson senator lobbied and were promised that they lobbied hard they would get this but let's talk about something else why did it take ten years for the department of defense to decide whether or not they're going to give the contract for these takers to boeing an american company or air bus or european company like i said i mean it's a great question it took ten years of doing around and have had the syllabus ten yea

related to cyber structure on and operated by the private sector would better be handled by the department of defense or the intelligence community, in other words, they should take the lead in protecting federal civilian networks. i wonder if you would respond as to why you think the department of homeland security and has obviously we do, is better prepared to take on this critical responsibility. estimate several plants. first, the department of homeland security, as i stated, already has exercised authority in the civilian area working with the private sector, working with federal civilian agencies. so that as a space we are already filling and continue to grow our capacity to fill. second, military and civilian authorities and missions are different, and there are significant differences. fred symbol, the privacy protections that we employee within the exercise of the trust action, and then finally, i would note that both the dod and dhs use the technical expertise of the nsa. we are not proposing and have never proposed that the would be created but rather that there would be the different line

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related to cyber structure on and operated by the private sector would better be handled by the department of defense or the intelligence community, in other words, they should take the lead in protecting federal civilian networks. i wonder if you would respond as to why you think the department of homeland security and has obviously we do, is better prepared to take on this critical responsibility. estimate several plants. first, the department of homeland security, as i stated, already has exercised authority in the civilian area working with the private sector, working with federal civilian agencies. so that as a space we are already filling and continue to grow our capacity to fill. second, military and civilian authorities and missions are different, and there are significant differences. fred symbol, the privacy protections that we employee within the exercise of the trust action, and then finally, i would note that both the dod and dhs use the technical expertise of the nsa. we are not proposing and have never proposed that the would be created but rather that there would be the different line

picked it was an early testing done, both by the department of defense and faa. it was clear from the testing that there is interference issue. the forum for this is a relatively obscure group, the position navigation and timing executive committee which the deputy secretary of defense and i co-chair. deputy secretary carter represented in the military and myself representing all the civil users. through that committee, which was all the executive branch agencies, which includes others, including the federal communications commission as an observer, it was clear that additional testing of a different proposal was in order. we worked with a lightsquared. they were part of developing the testing protocols. they were part of the testing itself, and the results i think are very clear-cut. i would point out that those are, the testing results from both the npef work and separate aviation works are currently with ntia and will be transmitted to sec shortly, but those results were independently verified by both idaho national engineering laboratories and in the lincoln l

i go back to my story about the department of defense when we had army, air force and navy for goldwater/nichols bill. we have to wrestle through that issue. how do we capture this? you have to do the things that are necessary to do -- to provide an adequate level of protection for the country. >> last question. i'm not going to let the panel have my last political forecast and question. quick question, please. >> thank you. one of the things we've seen over the years is the government has been very resistent to sharing information as you pointed out, admiral mcconnell. and the issues of classification, we've seen issue after issue being classified simply because the government knows it. sources and methods have been debated for years. taking methods and putting them out so people can then defend themselves against them also raises the bar and makes people have to use the more sophisticated equipment as the secretary pointed out. and they have to pull all of the tools out of the toolbox f we can back off from all of the classification issues, we can get along way down the road. in canada

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